Neo-Nazis

Did Hitler have a penis?

Why don't you ask your grandmom?

How can someone idolize Hitler when they don't know for sure whether or not he had a penis and was male?

Thanks for the recommendation. I did that.

>where did this exceptionally stupid variant come from?
Think of neo nazis as weeaboos and you'll completely understand

Is this person a man or a woman? I can't see his penis.

It's just a cringy boy

You really underestimate the number of uneducated and unintelligent whites in the world. That along with the number of white social outcasts that "REE" and hate on "normies".

Stormfront makes up a lot of "evidence" things to push their ideology.
Honestly the suspicious part of me thinks the whole neo nazi movement may be controlled opposition.

You can't argue with nazis because they're proud of their ignorance, they don't think much about their goals they're like animal reacting instinctively.

But really when i think about it, a great deal of political movements are based on outright falsehoods (michael brown, gender wage gap)
Really you have to attack the underlying reasons of why people latch on to these things.

Neonazis are in some kind of taqiyya in which they feel allowed to lie constantly to further their agenda. It's extremely common to find fake quotes and made up bullshit among the propaganda they vomit. I once found an entire text from marx changed to make it seem like he supported slavery, and a book about mapuches changed to make them seem violent/evil.

>I mean, especially once you have things like the internet, it should be easy to check up on this sort of shit. Assuming an honest neo-nazi, who really does want to convert other people to his ideology, shouldn't he make at least a bare effort to make sure it's not retarded on its face?
Neonazis are either in on the lies or retarded enough to not check anything they come across and believe whatever they read (the typical example being /pol/ infopics). Of course, the vast majority are in the second category.

Me me being a daywalker weeb is the equivalent of thinking Hugo Boss could make a spiffy uniform?

I guess that works.

Did you actually look up the quotes yourself? I mean they ARE fake but it sounds like you did exactly what the person who posted them did.

After confirming that two of the books mentioned didn't actually exist and that their first mention is in "The Talmud Unmasked", a 19th century canard, I figured he was at least more honest than the OP of that thread.

Neo-Naziism is just confirmation bias: the ideology

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existence itself is just a confirmation bias

This, though the ancient Hebrew religion of Solomon's age isn't evil, just obsolete given the Christ covenant.

The early 50s in France when authors who sympathized with the nazis (not declared neo-nazis) started writing articles/pieces/books about how hitler was trying jus tryin ta save europ from da commies, etc Their arguments are literally unchanged from then.

The first holocaust denial pieces came from france in the early 1960s, also little has changed from what was argued then to what is argued now even though everything they said back then has been thoroughly refuted.

My personal guess is that it continues to exist because only 3% of the people who spout pro-nazi stuff actually believe it, and the remaining 97% are young/edgy/uneducated and think the nazis are cool.

Theyre american what dod you expect?

lel the first response to the thread: "cuck"

Talmud or no, schlomo is a real slippery Pete and that's all you need to know.

I don't know, what was their response when presented with the evidence?

I really hope faggots like you live in house with nonwhites for a few months, everything else will come by itself.

He's not saying racism is bad, he's saying that a lot of /pol/ infographics are poorly researched. If you want to convert others, research them well.

No, no. Facts are for jews, user. Don't you get it?

It's very hard to find a complete English translation of the Talmud

Personally there is most likely some very questionable stuff in there with regards to the goyim which is why I believe Jews have played a part of suppressing their rabbinical texts

>inb4 sacred texts
It's not a complete English translation and the newest website that has the Talmud in English is only like 1/9th translated to English

But when people bring statistics and infinite amount of evidence that nowhites are subhumans you start to scream ad hominems just like this pussy right here Who clearly has the reading comprehension of a 10years old. Even though lefts are the fabrics of false facts and even more the jews he still goes on pretending that lefties ever use facts even though censorship is their main objective.

Nice facts.

Are you drunk? Your typing is almost incoherent.

When talking about the Talmud, one has to remember that it is also a series of transcripts of the many, many, MANY discussions of Jewish law by rabbis. What may seem, from a (very carefully selected) quote from the book to be a wide damnation of the filthy goyim cattle on behalf of all of Israel, may well turn out to be one statement from one rabbi of one community that was almost immediately disproven by his opponents.

What facts do you want me to bring in, just say.
>incoherent
But of course.

The Talmud was designed to not be read by Goyim.

A page of Talmud has no vowels, no punctuation, and is missing words and phrases you are just supposed to know are there. If the rabbis had wanted everyone to learn the Talmud, they wouldn’t have written it in code. You have to break your neck to learn Talmud! A page of Talmud has no vowels, no punctuation, and is missing words and phrases you are just supposed to know are there.

Of course there is bad shit about gentiles in there, but unless you understand Hebrew, and how to read between the lines, you wouldn't get anywhere. The English translations are pretty much scrubbed clean of all the bad shit. You can't just plug the Hebrew from it into google translator, it wouldn't make sense.

It's not just them. A great many people don't care about whether or not their ideology is actually true, they care about rhetoric. Reading into your ideas runs the risk of finding out they're not true, it's much easier to assert that they are and pretend that any dissent is constructed, fraudulent, or silly.

Frankly, a lot of this stuff goes way back in the context of the United States. The protocols of the elders of Zion is a tract that is repeatedly cited all throughout white supremacist literature as if it were fact, even to this day. Neo-nazi literature relies on very old, outdated, and esoteric ideas about race.

The content of neo-nazism often feels baffling or is perceived of as stupid in the eyes of modern liberals, but the presence of neo-nazism is rooted in hegemonic, academic racist theories that have existed for the past 300+ years. Effectively, neo nazis today believe and cite ideological perspectives on race that have existed long before any of the lives of any of the current members. When this is synthesized with nazism's traditionalist sympathies, a self-reinforcing ideology that relies on "old knowledge" emerges, even though said "old knowledge" was long ago debunked throughout through later academic research.

Ultimately, to understand the answer to your question, it's crucial to understand the ways that white supremacists often source their writings (of what they value epistemically). You often find repeated themes like those you pointed out and the problems are vastly more complex than you would understand on first glance. Organizations like the institute of academic racism and, to a somewhat lesser extent, the splc try to trace the genealogy of the sub ideologies that exist wishin the super-ideology that is neo-nazism.

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>Of course there is bad shit about gentiles in there, but unless you understand Hebrew, and how to read between the lines, you wouldn't get anywhere. The English translations are pretty much scrubbed clean of all the bad shit. You can't just plug the Hebrew from it into google translator, it wouldn't make sense.
Then how do you know it's there?

The narrative is more powerful than the fact. A narrative is essentially a lie, so a deceitful narrative is more powerful than a truthful one.

>and St Paul was even a Pharisee who persecuted Christians unto death
I thought he was a frumentarius.

Start posting and I'll start assessing.

>where did this exceptionally stupid variant come from?
Ideological Subversion:

It was fabricated. The "Neo-Nazi" term indicates an individual who clings on to a post-mortem ideology that we consider "dead". It is a stupid term because it assumes that National Socialism died with the defeat of "The Nazis". Which it did not.

The "New-Nazi"-movement was subject to (as a lot of other "movements") the COINTELPRO-program during the 80's. There have been a lot of efforts trying to dismantle the ideology from within and it worked almost too well. The differences between actual National Socialism and Neo-Nazi (Stromfag-fuckery) is radically different, the introduction to Hitler's "Degenerate elements" into the movement had it disoriented and preoccupied with nonsense events. Even the translation- and selling of Hitlers Mein Kampf overplayed the focus on antisemitism (the original a lot more anti-capitalist/"profiteers" messages than anti-Semitic) in order to make the movement seem more crazy. They did the exact same thing with the Panthers, Hippies and the Far Left.

The whole antisemitic thing is really just a decoy. Most Nazis are as gullible as their leftist counterparts so they will continue fighting for their beliefs while doing the dirty work for others. You can take /pol/ as a good example of this: a "Neo-Nazi"/Racial Realist/Libertarian board that literally spew countless anti-jew memes just helped shilling for the most Israel-friendly president in the history of America because he was sponsored by David Duke and promised to build a wall. Now the Leftists cry because they believe in the same meta-meme.

Most nazis are (just like most leftists) just smart enough to convince and just dumb enough not to question. It's perfect: youtube.com/watch?v=mqSV72VNnV0

That's just how Hebrew and a lot of semitic languages are written. Pic related is a Hebrew newspaper from back when Romney was running for president.

You'll notice no vowels, and almost no punctuation, and sentences written where the word count if translated literally would not render a coherent English translation. It's just the breaks of the language, not some hidden code designed to fool the goyim.

>nazis are equivalent to leftists

OK, NatSoc-guy.

Equally illusional people chasing a utopia that will literally never ever come to past? He hit the nail on the head there.

yes, chasing a dystopia that can come to pass is a much better choice

>doesn't know about synarchism
>actually believes a social/economic utopia or dystopia is achievable
Most things are rigged, and if they aren't yet they will be soon. That's why ".. hasn't been tried yet". The only ideology that actually works is Synarchism because it preys on kinds like you and kinds like them: Idealists with nothing but ideas.

You should read about Allen Dulles and his proposal to "muh evil nazis".

I've noticed in general that Neo-Nazis tend to have a really watered down and simplistic version of the Nazis actual ideology.

The Nazi's ideology was much more nuanced and articulated, and has a big background in folklore and the occult. Much of it was actually just politically motivated and changed when it became convenient so it's hard to tell what they genuinely believed at times.

>It is a stupid term because it assumes that National Socialism died with the defeat of "The Nazis". Which it did not.

It did, though. Everyone who is stupid enough to follow it once that Austrian painter killed Hitler fully deserves the "neo" preposition.

Because it's discussing Neo-Nazi misrepresentations of the past, dingus.

Because [spoiler]I'm jewish and have read copies in hebrew[/spoiler]

t.centrist faggot.

People like to be proven right. Say something that they agree with and they will most likely believe it, especially if you claim that the thing was said by a smart person like Einstein

Reality does not conform wholly to any extremist way of viewing the world

Are you a nigger?

Yes I am.

Hitler was a centrist

But did he have a penis,

>& Humanities

Who cares

He was whatever was expedient.

You would be hard pressed to find a non-biased source, especially when it comes to Nazi Germany and the second world war.

We will have higher quality discussions about the topic when both sides are treated fairly.

If you're ACTUALLY interested and not just being autistic, here's a good summation.

hammerandanvilmyblog.wordpress.com/2011/05/30/a-brief-history-of-the-white-nationalist-movement/

A key thing to note is that Neo-Nazism and White Nationalism formed in a time when there was no internet and about 6 corporations whose boards contained a disproportionate number of Jews controlled every television station in America and just about every radio station just after America had gotten done fighting a war with Nazi Germany. Nazi Germany was seen as an idealized utopia by many who felt there was something wrong with American society.

Many of these people communicated by radio, word of mouth, or obscure magazines. The accuracy of their claims was dubious; they couldn't, say, look up official reports because in many cases there WERE no ways for them to look up official reports.

Who is actually autistic enough to subscribe 100% to one or another ideology?

Most people just pick things from here and there and make up their own ideology, and just identify with the ideology that more closely represents their views.
Most non-ironic national socialists I've met don't care about muh race purity or muh norse gods. The far-right nowadays is more closely associated with conservatives that likely feel threatened by all the white-guilt bullshit that's been going on for the past few years and who might or might not agree with traditional christian ideas of morality.

Nazis are looked upon by a lot of them (us) because it was an extremely successful economic movement that was actually situated pretty nicely in between left and right ideologies and actually did a lot for the working class before a handful of it's leaders (and ONLY a handful of them) went full-retard well into the war.

I'm not even close to finishing, but I am reading through the link, and he seems ridiculously heavily biased.

I mean, take this part.

>A more serious effort was a clandestine movement called the Black Legion, formed in 1935 by a man named Parker Sage. An underground patriotic revolutionary group organized on military lines, at one stage the Legion is believed to have numbered as many as 25,000 members, although one hysterical left-wing writer credited the organization with 100,000. The Black Legion functioned mainly in the central and upper Midwest, and in some Midwestern states it outstripped the Second Era Ku Klux Klan at its height in numbers and influence. Like the Klan, the Black Legion engaged in guerrilla-style attacks against Communist union agitators, blacks, bootleggers, and other elements deemed to be “anti-social”.

> Unable to obtain genuine evidence of any criminal wrongdoing, Federal authorities engaged in a crackdown in late 1937 through fabricated conspiracy charges which more or less broke up the organization.

"Hey, I know we're waging a guerilla war against people we don't like, but really, there was no wrongdoing, it was all a setup" strikes me as the sort of stuff only someone who is full of the proverbial kool-aid could write.

I'm not a centrist. I'm a distributist and a social conservative.

Racist

>Neo-nazis are spreading fake news
>Oh i have no proof of this oops

>>>/leftypol/

desuarchive.org/his/thread/2385159/#q2385159

Here you go.

My nigga

>storefront is bad
>but leftypol, revleft and reddit can be trusted
This is what leftypol wants us to believe

Why does leftypol think they are allowed to spread their anti white propaganda here?

>desuarchive.org/his/thread/2385159/#q2385159
that's not fake news, that's just a clever ruse to make you spend time researching those quotes

>The study of history is about being able to evaluate sources of information
>Neo-Nazis are fucking retarded when it comes to this and this board is lousy with them
Discussions of the study of history are just as important as discussions of history itself

why is Veeky Forums on there with /pol/ and pictures of dildos? It's probably one of the more educated boards on this shithole website

Nigga you're the one bringing "fake news" into this.

The quotes are made up. This means the poster of said quotes is either
>gullible enough to take information at face value and integrate into their worldview as fact
>lying in order to recruit people that fit into the above category

Deflecting the way you are makes you seem just as retarded as using made-up quotes to prove your point.

>where did this exceptionally stupid variant come from?
I created it to make neo-nazis look silly.

Why should I hate my own race, you SJW faggot?

Well. You sure showed him that despite his misconceptions you are in fact an articulate and intelligent individual basing your personal beliefs on sound reasoning.

who are you quoting

go be retarded somewhere else

go back to leftypol, SJW

It's not history related for one, also humanities education doesn't count.