When will they fuck off?

Jacques Ellul, a French philosopher and Christian anarchist, notes that the final verse of the Book of Judges (Judges 21:25) states that there was no king in Israel and that "everyone did as they saw fit".[8][9][10] Subsequently, as recorded in the first Book of Samuel (1 Samuel 8) the people of Israel wanted a king "so as to be like other nations".[11][12] God declared that the people had rejected him as their king. He warned that a human king would lead to militarism, conscription and taxation, and that their pleas for mercy from the king's demands would go unanswered. Samuel passed on God's warning to the Israelites but they still demanded a king, and Saul became their ruler.[13][14] Much of the subsequent Old Testament chronicles the Israelites trying to live with this decision.[15]
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_anarchism

>Iran
>Guatemala
>Bay of Pigs
>Nicaragua
>Iraq in '94

He was a lifelong abolitionist, delivering lectures that attacked the Fugitive Slave Law while praising the writings of Wendell Phillips and defending the abolitionist John Brown. Thoreau's philosophy of civil disobedience later influenced the political thoughts and actions of such notable figures as Leo Tolstoy, Mahatma Gandhi, and Martin Luther King Jr.
Thoreau is sometimes referred to as an anarchist.[4][5] Though "Civil Disobedience" seems to call for improving rather than abolishing government—"I ask for, not at once no government, but at once a better government"[6]—the direction of this improvement points toward anarchism: "'That government is best which governs not at all;' and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have."[6]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_David_Thoreau

Grassy gnoll when?

You want to save civilization, you have to break a few eggs.

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Made damn sure that Pilate
Washed his hands and sealed his fate

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When I saw it was a time for a change
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Anastasia screamed in vain

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>Iran
Churchill's stupid idea and people only went along with it because they thought he knew what he was doing.

>Guatemala
Sure, a real coup and another Ike corker. Pretty meme though, definitely a who-gives-a-fuck

>Bay of Pigs
Are you implying Cubans were super happy with Castro? Because he totally came to power in a fair way with broad support?

>Nicaragua

CIA caused what exactly?

New International Version
Jesus replied, "Man, who appointed me a judge or an arbiter between you?"

New International Version
As you are going with your adversary to the magistrate, try hard to be reconciled on the way, or your adversary may drag you off to the judge, and the judge turn you over to the officer, and the officer throw you into prison.

>Churchill's stupid idea and people only went along with it because they thought he knew what he was doing.
Just because they "went along with it" doesn't mean they didn't do it.

>Sure, a real coup and another Ike corker. Pretty meme though, definitely a who-gives-a-fuck
Guatemala, at the time, had a population of over 2.5 million people. Definitely not who-gives-a-fuck.

>Are you implying Cubans were super happy with Castro? Because he totally came to power in a fair way with broad support?
Yes, Castro and his cronies had popular support.
>CIA caused what exactly?
As part of the training, the CIA distributed a detailed "terror manual" entitled "Psychological Operations in Guerrilla War," which instructed the Contras, among other things, on how to blow up public buildings, to assassinate judges, to create martyrs, and to blackmail ordinary citizens.
This training directly affected the outcome.

You also forgot about Iraq and DBACHILLES, an attempted coup on the government of Saddam.

Do you hate the garbage man for smelling like refuse and being a grumpy fuck all the time too?

What the hell are you talking about?

>the CIA is bad for trying to get rid of Saddam

Why should I take this seriously?

It's a dirty job that needs to be done. Would you prefer all American neo imperialist interests were spread the "honorable" way by mass bombing of the capital city of whatever country that doesn't do what we want?

Cloak and dagger CIA shit is the lesser of the two evils considering the alternative.

Where did I say that was a bad thing?

Have you considered the option of not spreading neo imperialist interests?

Daily reminder Donald Trump won the presidency according to all the long standing rules of the American democracy, that the people have accepted and chosen not to change.

Daily reminder nobody voted for the CIA.

>Cloak and dagger CIA shit is the lesser of the two evils considering the alternative.

>I can make something seem like a good thing by presenting it as the only alternative to another radically different option.

What the hell is even going on in this thread?

How is the CIA trying to depose Trump? Letting him keep his twitter account?

Kiddos the CIA is probably the primary reason why we export nothing but fiat currency to the rest of the world while they send us all of their real tangible weath, I know the idea that daddy sold sub prime mortgages to keep you in your upper middle class suburban home keeps you awake at night but at least be happy he's not a child pornographer who does mob hits on the side.

I'm not from the US though.

>others suffering is okay because we benefit from it

Just stop.

You're confusing the CIA with the US military here buddy, oh and some helpful Saudi Arabian royalty.

Well carry on then I guess.

p.s. don't hold it against me it's the cias fault

I'm going to hold it against every single US citizen that doesn't actively work against your corrupt and imperialist, and quite frankly, evil, government.

>your corrupt and imperialist, and quite frankly, evil, government
Like all the others?

Exactly.

It's okay, a former KGB employee turned head of state seems to be inching closer day by day to plunging us into a civil war.

Same conservatives who used to call anybody who criticized the CIA or the US government's actions a traitorous pinko commie now do the same thing because it happens to be politically convenient for them at the moment.

I really fucking hate everyone who isn't an indepedent at this point. Anybody who labels themselves turns into a ideologue blindly going along with the party line only going with what is convenient for them.

No one actually wants to get to the truth of the matter.

The US doesn't usually benefit from the events in the end. even obama criticized the insurgencies as merely working out well

It costs everyone but rich generals and military contractors.

>As part of the training, the CIA distributed a detailed "terror manual" entitled "Psychological Operations in Guerrilla War," which instructed the Contras, among other things, on how to blow up public buildings, to assassinate judges, to create martyrs, and to blackmail ordinary citizens.
Does Veeky Forums have .pdfs yet?

Cheapest tactic ever. Internal problems? Blame someone outside your group!

What's the alternative? Let the communists win? I find few people defending the morality of certain CIA operations, and yes at times they supported a brutal dictator when it wasn't necessary but every other nation that became communist failed and is a hell hole. Look at Ethiopia, marxist rebels kill the king (who the Rastas worshipped lol) and suddenly, a civilization thousands of years old that survived Italian Fascism suffered famines and became the shithole it is today. Also we just hear about the CIA when the fuck up, we don't hear about how many successes they have.

t. college student majoring in security studies

>What's the alternative?
Peace, Love, Unity and Respect

life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness
liberté, égalité, fraternité

They will literally never fuck off lol

If they realistically could go down they'd take the whole us with them (controlled by Jews) & flee to zion

Are you saying Marxist regimes have achieved that? Ever? Look I'm all down for peace and harmony but get out of hypotheticals and look at the real world. Yes it'd be great if we could sing songs and hold hands, but just looking at South American dictators we supported, a lot of the violence, like in Guatemala, the people in power just used the excuse and equipment to exact old ethnic tensions. Like do you have a policy plan for how to achieve this, or are you gonna bang your bongo drum and criticize

As someone who's had family members work in the CIA with an uncle currently in the directorate of analysis, the CIA is incompetent as FUCK.

The director of the CIA's power is largely nominal and embolic, there's multiple departments that work purely for lobby group interests including that of Saudi Arabia and various Wall Street entities.

The biggest problem however is the crippling inefficiency the CIA has. Its' command structure is not well suited to modern technologies and is long obsolete; talk to or see any interview with a retired high level CIA operator and they will say that most employees in the CIA and most requisite procedures and regulations are complete bureaucratic deadweight

T. Larping retard

When every country in the world answers in full compliance and vassalage to the
>U
>S
>A

You caught me, to be more specific I'm majoring in Peace, War, and Defense, which is considered "security studies". And yea, I say you're spot on with the problems the CIA faces, although sounds like your and your uncle know more than me

in the 21st century if you're a superpower you're going to kill with nukes or robots, snipers, commandos and spies

in the 21st century if you're a rebel you're going to kill with gas, bombs, snipers, assassins, suicide and spies

Periodic reminder that obongo removed the labor laws for intel agencies so soon there will be agents in high schools and shit

I think we've all seen what happens when C.I.A. tries to defeat a Big Guy

Kek

I don't know why everyone credits Pinochet as a CIA coup. The U.S. wasn't involved until after the fact. Pinochet acted of his own volition and didn't even ask the U.S. for anything until after the coup had finished. The closest tie you could create would be the fact that Pinochet had some training at SOA like every other high ranking member of Latin America's militaries.

CIA literally serves to advance US interests and there is nothing wrong with that. Literally every country would do the same but are unable to because we are so good at it.

nuthin personal

Section 31...?

People give the CIA far too much credit.

>tfw the Chavistas have been in charge of Venezuela for like 15 years

WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE BLACK HELICOPTERS YOU DOUBLE NIGGER

Venezuela still sells oil to the U.S. Despite the vocal memery coming out of Venezuela publicly, the Venezuelan government isn't anti-U.S. interests unlike the overthrown governments of the 20th century.

>Like all the others?
Uh... quite unlike all others.

Why do you try so hard to ignore the obvious?

I'm sick of seeing fucking smug polsci students who want to suck the teat of empire literally lobotomizing themselves and hiding behind a stupid degree.

Continue ignoring the fact that the US does everything it can to strangle communist nations at the cradle.

>inept empire theory

lol

Are you seriously posting this as an argument in favor of a government which was formed by deposing the that of the English, which was formed by deposing that of the English, which was formed by deposing that of the Romans?

>implying strangling communist nations at the cradle isn't a good thing

This made me cringe so much my forehead met my chest.

Will you piss off back to /pol/?

>Daily reminder that the amount of people who actually vote always represent a fraction of the population.

La revolución es unstoppable.

When both libcucks and righttards demand it.

Are you a moron? Why should we take you seriously?

The CIA in fact used to boast about getting him into power. (Daily reminder: Saddam used to be the US's and UK's favourite dictator until he wasn't.) You're contradicting the Agency if you say otherwise.

>moral realism

>What are you against divorce and women's right to choose too?

>spazzing out