Megali Idea

So why didn't this happen? Was it because of the perfidious Albion?

Because the Greeks managed to lose to a 99% disintegrated empire in the midst of a massive fucking civil war. Seriously, how they managed to piss away all of their advantages boggles me.

except the Turks were being supplied by the Soviets, while the Greek economy had trouble sustaining itself from the loss of men in its small population, also Anglo betrayal

Soviet aid was pretty negligable considering they were in the middle of their OWN civil war. And you can't really blame the Brits for not really fucking caring about Greece after being worn to the bone by WW1.

That feeling when we could have almost eliminated slavshits from the balkans but the perfidious albion, once again stifled the plans for Europe to become a normal continent, without a bagillion hillbilly cultures with the same roots fighting each other in an ape-like contest to show who has the most balls.

>The Soviet supply of gold and armaments to the Kemalists in 1920–1922 was a key factor in the latter's successful grab of power in an Ottoman Empire defeated by the Triple Entente and their victory in the Armenian campaign and the Greco-Turkish War (1919–1922).[1]
from wikipedia

also the Greeks fought in the Balkan Wars and could've joined WW1 earlier had it not been for their pro-German king (but still joined anyways)

>from wikipedia
pic
>could've joined WW1 earlier
>what is the Salonika front

Because the King returned and fired anybody who was not a complete retard in terms of military.

these guys

>Anglo betrayal
>WAH BRITAIN WIN OUR WARS FOR US
Already won your independence for you fuck sake. Greeks really are just lazy.

>Be britain
>Supposed to help the Greeks
>Change sides
>Lmao stupid lazy greeks

>not fighting your battles for you is hostility now

Greeks got rekt fair and square by ataturk and his mates who had to build an army out of a wartorn and weary population with almost nothing to fight a war with.

You've been cucked and raped by roaches and you think your problem are the Slavs? Totally lost all sympathy for Greeks. Enjoy Mohammed's smelly D.

No need to blame external factors, the Greeks lost because of Based Ataturk kicking their shit in.

i've always thought the roach meme is rather amusing. Its kind of insulting yourself considering Slavs and Greeks were conquered and ruled by literal insects for 4 centuries.
Its kind of like the epitomy of butthurt

t.roach

Fucking kek its like a parody of /int/.

>get btfo
>retort to shitty meme answers

Greeks like to pretend they super unique and different, but they're literally the same as the other people in the Balkans - lazy, stupid and retardedly patriotic for some reason. They lost because they're, for a lack of a better world, subhumans.

t. Balkanigger trying to be objective to the realities

what's rather amusing is that Turks are literally Slavs and Greeks who were cucked into Islam and Turkish language

HOLY SHIT YOU'RE ALL FUCKNG GAY RETARDS WHO DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING AND ACT AS IF YOUR SOLE PURPOSE IN LIFE IS TO BE ANNOYING PIECES OF SHIT. FUCKING TAKE THE NEAREST SHARP OBJECT AND JUST PUSH IT AGAINST YOUR NECKS YOU FAGGOTS.

No. Perfidious Albion actually wanted this to go ahead. It's the incompetence of the Greek military that led to the terrible situation we have now, where Constantinople is still in Turkish hands.

Greece needs to abolish liberal democracy, hang leftists, install a Singapore-style authoritarian free market regime, fix the economy (possibly pay denbts), modernize the military, and have a huge population boost before it can begin to think about megali idea.

Le angry Balkan (You) >:^(

>turks
>white

i'm not denying being a roach. but its not quite answering the question now is it ,Milo ?
Another meme. Ottoman millet system was pretty strict in overall keeping Christian and Muslim communities separate. Maybe 2%- not even are descended from harems and Janissaries.
What i don't understand is that Greeks conbquered the anatolians and hellenized them. Why is it so hard to accet that Turks conquered Anatolia and Turkified the land just because it was more recent.?

>Milo
Kek.

>turks from central asia settle down in minor asia
>minor asia is filled with greeks, armenians, kurds, slavs, anatolians, etc.
>some of them convert to islam
>they mix with turks

Also Greeks colonised the coast of Anatolia long before they hellenised the mainland. During the Byzantine times the coast was Greek and most of the mainland was a populated by local Anatolians with patches of Greeks and Armenians, the same way there where patches of Truks in the Balkans.

People always VASTLY overestimate the sizes of these migratory groups, it's not like the Turks completely displaced the inhabitants, it was more like a change in the ruling class, and over time, in language.

The majority of people living in Anatolia are essentially completely descended from people who arrived there long before the Greeks or the Turks.

What was the name of that Anatolian Greekaboo king that thought he could take on the Persian empire, and asked the oracle at Delphi what would happen if he went to war with Persia, and she said, a "great empire will fall", and it turned out that it was his own empire. I love that story.

>The majority of people living in Anatolia are essentially completely descended from people who arrived there long before the Greeks or the Turks.

Not necessarily. Out of 80 million people, 15 million+ are Kurds so those are out. Of the remaining 65 million, 5-10 million are Muslim refugees from the Balkans and Caucasus. A substantial amount of people also fled from the Mongols and Safavids so a couple million are Persian/Arab/Turkish refugees.

This. I've travelled both the Turkish Aegean coast and much of Greece and they are basically identical appearance-wise. It's one you get further inland into Turkey that their skin becomes darker and they start looking a lot different.

Croesus, the king of Lydia.

Good book that. Way ahead of it's time!

It was the fucking King.

Germanophile king ordered the greek army to march into anatolia while sabotaging them, allowin g Ataturk to counterattack so that the English didnt have any ally on anatolia.

Not a Greek but is there a single nation the Anglos haven't backstabbed yet? I mean whenever they run out of people to backstab they start just backstabbing other Anglos (see Rhodesia).

>king sabotaging his own army

here's your (You)

Because they got BTFO

>slavs and greeks
>white

The Aegean islands and Anatolian coast, especially around Smyrna, really should have remained in Greek hands. The other claims were/are kind of a pipe dream.

They already did that with their Junta and they're still shit afterwards, lmao
They're a failed prospect, just give up on them.

Except for Smyrna itself, most of the Anatolian coast was roughly 50-50 Greek Turkish or had a Turkish majority (usually slim). You might've been able to create a really jank border within 5 miles of the coast that was majority Greek, but that would've been complete indefensible and worthless to Greece. Removing most of Turkey's coastline would've also done incredible damage to the future of the Turkish state, especially considering the guaranteed chilly relations between them and Greece.

Even just handing over Smyrna would've been problematic. About a third of the Turkish economy was centered on the city and its export economy. If handed over to Greece, they would've either fought a (winning, as history shows) war against them or been forced to completely overhaul their economy to a new port. This option would also have the effect of rendering Smyrna useless to the Greeks.

Overall, population transfer was the only real answer to the problem.

Why greeks always use soviet backing to justify their defeat? Very similar to roaches citing western support when trying to justify their losses in balkan independence movements.
Both of you were backed and you lost, geez.

t.bulgarian