If WWII Japan and WWII Italy were to fight against each other, who would win?

If WWII Japan and WWII Italy were to fight against each other, who would win?

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WW2 Italy never went into war economy while WW2 Japan was the most heavily mobilized economy. They produced arms at a similar rate. You figure it out.

Japs had a better trained army and larger navy

Japan.

Japan was much better off logistically and production wise.

Follow up, how would have Japan handled a pre lend-lease Russia in full war

It what universe would Italy win ever? Even if the whole battlefield were the Italian Alps I still doubt their success.

Japan.

Can you imagine the Italians facing a Banzai charge? They couldn't even handle Ethiopians with spears.

none, both lacked the means of encountering each other due to logistics

Nigga if they wanted war they'd find a way.

They would have gotten shitstomped unless the Soviets were heavily distracted by the overwhelming threat of a several millions strong German invasion.

They couldn't advance in their border wars, and the Soviets had hugely more ability to commit to a total war footing than the Japanese do.

The universe where they fight a land battle in somewhere that isn't an island jungle where Japan's utter, utter lack of things like effective artillery and CAS wouldn't mean instant loss.


About the only thing the Japs were good at in land warfare was

A) Hanging on grimly when they had nowhere to go

B) Moving light equipment in places that have absolutely shit tier infrastructure.

How is this even a question?
Italy attacked Greece and got its ass whopped so badly that Greek troops actually advanced on Italian soil.

Fascist Italy is also the only western nation that actually got raped by an African "Army".

I can hardly imagine a single army in the world that could have not beaten Italy.
Well, maybe WW1 Italy.

Italy had a shitty navy, a shitty air force, a shitty army, shitty commanders in general, and no motivation whatsoever.

Japan would probably even manage to invade and conquer Italy assuming no other European powers intervene to save Italy's ass.

Nice meme faggot.

Result was still an Italian defeat dumbass

Eternal slave

>10x bigger army with half of them armed with firearms and instructed by Russian generals
>dey lost to spearchuckers xDDDD

I swear these posts are just Anglos projecting.

This is a case where both sides loses.

>a logistic line with distance of two ocean and one sea
>win

>About the only thing the Japs were good at in land warfare was

>A) Hanging on grimly when they had nowhere to go

>B) Moving light equipment in places that have absolutely shit tier infrastructure.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Japan managed real victories against real great powers while Italy struggled even against hopelessly outclassed opponents.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippines_Campaign_(1941–42)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Java_Sea

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Singapore

>Fascist Italy
>Raped by an African army
Nigga you're acting stupid

>instructed by Russian generals
>Russian generals

Damn, Italy's defeat was even more embarassing than I thought

>one naval battle
>two battles with navy support
>all near of main islands
Unrealistc scenario against the italians.

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Did Italy have Aces? Its just that you always here about these Japanese, American, and German aces who fucked up pilots like crazy, yet you never hear about italian ones.

America

Italy. First they will change of side, then make their allies lose.

Japan

>>all near of main islands

There's 3,000 km of ocean between Corregidor and Tokyo. Moscow to Berlin is only 1,600 km.

The Italians got their shit utterly wrecked by the 1940 British Army despite a significant numerical advantage.

The 1940 Imperial Japanese Army was in every way a superior force to the 1940 British Army.

You don't read too good, do you?

>in every way a superior force.
because the brits kept a bunch of reservists in the east that were to act as a police force.

What does that have to do with anything?

In his mind the Brits have to be superior. He can't accept that they were anything but living gods among men. So, to say the Brits were superior, he has to try to say that the group he is talking about was shit. Why did they get blown out by Japs? Because they were a purposefully shitty force. The REAL British army, in his mind, would have won.

It seems a lot of Brits are retardedly nationalistic to the point of delusion these days. It's weird seeing them have this doublethink where Britain never did wrong and was always superior, but then try to justify every wrong thing they did and every defeat. It's fascinating.

Lol because sov Russia after the victorising bordet stabalising sino wars is going to turn its back on a militerised europe and from its grain egyptianesque baskets for tuna fishing 10000km away instead. They'd ride east and Moscow would have been the new post war berlin

Not us mate, genuinely agree with you.

But still pretty near that the Itally.

Ok then lets make a list
>Infantry
Japan win,they have more soldier
>armored unit
Both have meme tier tank,no winner
>air force
Italy win,Mc205 is much faster and better armed than A6M
Also Italy had an heavy bomber from start of war
>Navy
Japan have a slighty edge against Italy
>morale
Japan have the upper hand here
Italy is still disfatist for the loses of the first world war
>Special forces
I dont know much about Japan special forces,but Italy had some sick forces like the X MAS and the Folgore
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_aces_from_Italy
You dont hear a lot talking about Italian aces because air victories would go to the whole wing to improve morale

easily japan

Their armed forces and especially government executives were not as incompetent as the Italians

and the people of that country actually fully supported the war

>when fighting on another continent
>Italy invades Ethiopia
>Italy ends up being the only country to loose a war against an African nation.

When fighting in Europe
>Italy invades Greece which is technologically inferior
>Ends with Greece occupying part pf Italy
>Germany has to divert forces to save their ally

>When fighting at sea
>Germany builds a mighty fleet
>England builds a mighty fleet
>the US builds a mighty fleet
>Japan Builds a mighty fleet
>Italy builds a couple of speed boats and slaps a couple of torpedoes on them.

>At about 13:00, the Japanese broke through and they advanced towards the Alexandra Barracks Hospital. A British lieutenant—acting as an envoy with a white flag—approached the Japanese forces but was killed with a bayonet.[127] After the Japanese troops entered the hospital they killed up to 50 soldiers, including some undergoing surgery. Doctors and nurses were also killed.[128] The next day about 200 male staff members and patients who had been assembled and bound the previous day,[128] many of them walking wounded, were ordered to walk about 400 m (440 yd) to an industrial area. Those who fell on the way were bayoneted. The men were forced into a series of small, badly-ventilated rooms where they were held overnight without water. Some died during the night as a result of their treatment.[128] The remainder were bayoneted the following morning.

Just when I thought the island Chink couldn't sink any lower.

>Italy ends up being the only country to loose a war against an African nation.

You do know that predates the second world war by decades and they won the second Italo-Ethiopian war before WWII right?

I guess this also makes them stupid.

Nips of course. Italians couldn't beat a starved, premature Ethiopian neonate

>trusting flip propaganda

MC205 number built: 262
A6M number built: 10,939

So long as the Japanese could maintain steady fuel supply and reserves,they would have annihilated the Italians. FFs the Italians were using wooden planes.

>watashitashi wa nanimo shitenai!

There's nothing wrong with wooden planes. Ever hear of the Mosquito?

or the swordfish, nothing wrong with wooden planes but stack the inventories of each against each other and the wooden component of Italian airpower is too great a disadvantage. Too many flying tinderboxes.

Japs hands down. They were bloodthirsty sadists on their "honorary aryan" campaign across China and SEA.