Debunking Communism

So many users of /his seem to bee commies, even tough history has prooven that 100% of the attempts on Communism fail or devolve into state capitalism, see Cuba and China.
Others, like the Sovjet union and North Korea are/where literal hellholes.
>why?

Because Communism is based on an entirely false premise: It requires all humans to loose natural human functions like greed. So even if a communist revolution eradicated ALL the bourgeoise, there always would be people among the working class striving for more power and wealt, thus resulting in people like Stalin.

In fact, no form of Socialism works because of this. Nazi Germany for example: The Gestapo was running rampant, even ethnic germans had to fear them, because if one person gains power, they will not be giving it away freely.

They always want to be equal but a caste system always arises

In order to fight communists you have to argue that humans are evil and selfish creatures

Its the age of enlightenment revisited

Can't tell if bait or a 9th-grader

This thread isn't going to get any better, is it?

If greed is the natural motivation for human economy, why did it take thousands of years for capitalism to arise?

Communism has never and will never work.

Nobody made Soviet Union a Capitalist shithole but Soviets themselves. They had all the time and freedom in the world to make Communism, but instead they opted for Capitalism. Your pic sums it up.

>inb4 capitalist sabotage

[COLLAPSE]

not an argument

how do you argue with people who want to do away with currency altogether?

you would have to sit down with the fucker for hours

Communism is the result of everyone being greedy.

The point is for everyone to seize power and liberty by seizing the means of production, to prevent others from using it to gain control over you.

average leftist truly doesn't understand why barter economies are bad

there are entire tomes written about how a gift economy would be good

madness

No, but it's tiresome to see the same """""deep""""" arguments every high schooler hears about communism reposted over and over again, and frankly I can't be arsed to argue through this again. (Anyway I don't care much for Marxism as an ideology, so whatever.) This is a history board, though, shouldn't we expect people to have at least some depth of historical knowledge about the things they're discussing?

Labor vouchers.

Communism does not mean Marxism-Leninism. Communism does not mean giving up your freedoms, it does not mean bureaucratic centralization and/or violent coercion.

As said, Communism is the expression of the higher synthesis of the dialectical movement which moves from self to others, from the individual to society and from the ego to community. Communism is ultimately the expression of all egos as they affirm their own uniqueness.

See this sword? The prince of darkness Sold it to me. For me he beats the time and gives the signs. Ever more boldly I play the dance of death.

some things are cliches because they're true. if you don't want to refute them, that's fine, but the fact that you've heard them many times before doesn't make them wrong or invalid

You can't scheme a world with self driving cars when you don't even know what a combustion engine is.

what the fuck are you even saying

Have you even read one word of Marx?

>reading early marx

The highest synthesis of the dialectical advance is the actualization of Spirit, in relation to Itself.

>wasting my time reading trash
Even my parents told me it's trash, they were forced to read it in school.

>Communism is the expression of the higher synthesis of the dialectical movement which moves from self to others, from the individual to society and from the ego to community. Communism is ultimately the expression of all egos as they affirm their own uniqueness.

Isn't Communism supposed to be for the working class. That sentence could use some simplification.

this makes even less sense than

Clearly I haven't, motherfucker. Why would I care what a dead Kraut has to say? Everybody who has tried implementing his system had it turn to shit.

Only learned about him in Public School, so I'm sure I don't actually know anything at all about Communism. But seriously, what you wrote is fucking indecipherable to the layman.

take the Geist-pill

And here I was thinking dialectic could be summed up as history being pushed forward by conflict

Would you care to explain that in the peasant form of english?

Because all the best philosophers are dead krauts.

>expecting easy to understand english from a kraut intellectual

You're still in time to redeem yourselves. No, seriously.

I'm getting pretty tired of people talking shit about Communism when they know nothing about it is all. And as I said, Communism does not mean Marxism-Leninism.

Communism is fucking braindead and makes no actual sense outside of a simulation where variables can be controlled. There's a reason every time it's been attempted to be inducted it's ended in the death of thousands.
Now get the fuck out, freedom hating, commie faggot.