Was the iron guard the most based fascist group?

fascism is pretty gay overall

Italian fascism >>>> literally any other kind of fascism.

>mega christian

i wish le trashman meme was still a thing

>which form of fascism is the most subjectively appealing
I'd rather eat rabbit poop pellets than dog shit, but that doesn't mean you're supposed to ingest faeces.

>hates gypsies

Really? Some of them actually looked like gypsies, not even shitposting.
They seemed more like the type who would accept anyone as long as they were loyal to the cause and were Orthodox.
Supposedly they even accepted Jewish converts to Christianity.

>not preferring superior bird shit

Got on my level.

>fascism is bad

Check out this pleb. What, are the American elections not showing how great democracy is?

>They seemed more like the type who would accept anyone as long as they were loyal to the cause

This is what unobstructed fascism boils down to when you don't pepper it with jew-hating.

As long as you're loyal, you're in.

>one election brings a shitty leader into power

Clearly this means democracy has failed.

>an ideology has brought nothing but warfare and ruination throughout its entire history

Let's give it another shot!

Fascists are retards.

>The US
>a democracy

>Orthodoxy
>Papist

>Hate Jews
>Worship a Jew
What did they mean by this?

>Having any form of supreme church leader

>America has only had one shitty leader
>implying the vast majority of any given nation's population are politically literate enough to decide who's best qualified to lead

How do you reconcile Christianity with fascism?

Fascize yourself.

You become Rome and persecute the innocent and the weak!

>atheist fascism
No thanks, we have enough of that already

*tip*

Clerical fascism is the best fascism

youtube.com/watch?v=tIhvefyBc7o

>left wing (people who clearly are against nationalism) can be fascist

when will this mene end?

>walks in gay ass crosses
I can smell the faggotry

>fascist means authoritarian

when will this meme end?

>leftists can't be authoritarian

when will this meme end?

>nationalism is necessarily authoritarian

when will this meme end?

>everyone I don't like is muh papists

protestant retards gtfo

>tfw you will never piss on mussolini's corpse

>dude like fascism was so barbaric and violent and inhumane like omg
>let's show our opposition to these things by violently beating a guy and his girlfriend to death without trial and then pissing on his corpse

So you're arguing that virtually every socialist/communist country in existence wasn't left wing.

Stalin was a nationalist
Castro was a nationalist
Mao was a nationalist
Ho Chi Minh was a nationalist
Pol Pot was a nationalist
Mugabe was a nationalist

>if u fight fascists ur basically the same

Every single implementation of fascism was autocratic.

>let's fight fascism utilizing the same methods I criticize fascists for using
Yeah pretty much

>killing millions of jews and starting a massive war = killing two people
hmmmmmmmm

>mugabe
>was

a man can hope

>Hitler was a fascist
(You)

>fascism is bad because they're nazis

you are a child

sorry he falls under a ~special ideology~ that is completely 100% unrelated in all forms from mussolini

>is the first Christian
>called a Jew
What did he mean by this?

But it is unrelated. Fascism is centered on state while Hitlerism is centered on race. There were quite a few Jews in Italy who were fascists.

Easily. The doctrines are very compatible. More so than liberal regimes and commie regimes. the popes were talking about corporatism long fascists were even a thing.

>changes a word
>""""""unrelated""""""

Well, he is basically a walking corpse at this point so you're not that far off

National socialism is a syncretism between Stalinism and fascism.

Yes and? National socialism and fascism have different beliefs, different origins and different goals. Fascism was rooted in syndicalism while nazism was rooted in völkisch nationalism and scientific racism.

Except for the part national socialism existed before Stalin or Mussolini took power, yeah.

>DUDE FASCISM WAS SO BAD BECAUSE IT WAS ANTISEMITIC AND KILLED JEWS LAMO
>but fascism wasn't anti-semitic, national socialism was
>WHO CARES LOL THEY'RE THE SAME THING

Marxists think every authoritarian regime that isn't Marxist is "fascism". Do me a favor and tell me why should I trust Marxists to define fascism, rather than you know, actual fascists.

HELLO, FELLOW.

THE TERM "RACISM" IN REFERENCE TO ARYANIST, AND NATIONAL SOCIALIST, IDEOLOGY, SHOULD BE SUBSTITUTED WITH "RACIALISM", TO BOTH, AVOID CONFUSION OF THE IGNORANT, AND TO ACCURATELY DIFFERENTIATE IT FROM THE MORE POPULAR NOTION OF RACISM (ETHNOCENTRIC DISCRIMINATION).

Bugger off redditor.

If you think that then you are a retard

>disagrees with me
>"you must be a marxist!"
well i cant say im surprised

>fascism
>ever traditional

Fantastic argument.

FASCISM IS HYPERTRADITIONALISTIC, EMPHASIZING FAMILIAL VALUES, CATHOLICISM, TRADITIONAL GENDER ROLES, ET CETERA.

NATIONAL SOCIALISM, ON THE CONTRARY, IS REVOLUTIONARY.

Mugabe will die when Zimbabwe dies, he's a corporeal manifestation of Zimbabwe, not unlike how Silent Hill creates monsters based on the people who enter it

>HYPERTRADITIONALISTIC
see pic

Well, yes and no. You're right that NS is revolutionary, but fascism has many strains. Austrofascism or Iron Guard are very tradionalist, but Italian fascism was quite revolutionary.

This a 100x times
They would literally commit terrorist acts and run down the main streets chanting "Long Live Death". These fags are so chunni and edgy Hitler should've used them as projectiles.

>GLORIFICATION OF PATRIOTISTIC BELLICOSITY.
>SUPERFLUOUS MECHANIZATION.

HOW IS THAT SUPPOSED TO REFUTE MY STATEMENT?

>Italian fascism was quite revolutionary.

NOT REALLY; IT WAS AN AUGMENTATION OF THE TRADITIONAL VALUES ALREADY ENTRENCHED IN ITALIAN SOCIOCULTURE.

>traditional values
Look up national syndicalism and futurism. Fascism has roots in statist syndicalism (as opposed to anarcho-syndicalism), which is VERY revolutionary.

I think his point is that fascist art was very modernist and experimental and often even abstract, real traditionalists would call it degenerate.

>Not British Fascism

>replying to all capsfag

>Look up national syndicalism and futurism.

FUTURISM IS AN AUGMENTATION OF TRADITION —TRADITIONAL NOTIONS TAKEN TO THEIR EXTREME CONCLUSIONS.

>Fascism has roots in statist syndicalism (as opposed to anarcho-syndicalism), which is VERY revolutionary.

ANY KIND OF SYNDICALISM IS TRADITIONALISTIC; IT DOES NOT REVOLUTIONIZE, BUT REVOLT; IT DOES NOT CHANGE PARADIGMS, BUT MERELY CREATES CONTINGENT MEASURES AGAINST ESTABLISHED PARADIGMS, THUS, IT ONLY PERPETUATES TRADITION IN FURTHER DEGENERATED FORM.

>I think his point is that fascist art was very modernist and experimental and often even abstract, real traditionalists would call it degenerate.

"TRADITIONAL ART", AND "ABSTRACT ART", ARE TWO ASPECTS OF THE SAME CONCEPT; BOTH EMPHASIZE FORM, AND METHOD, OVER CONTENT, AND IDEA; THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT THE FORMER IS "CONSERVATIVE", WHILST THE LATTER IS "DISRUPTIVE"; ULTIMATELY, BOTH AFFIRM, NOT TRANSCEND, TRADITIONAL NOTIONS.

This. I find proto-fascist movements like national syndicalism and Italian Futurism very interesting and get severly triggered when plebean alt-right scum tries to appropriate Fascism for their own reactionary, kitsch romanticist nationalism.

OSWALD MOSLEY WAS A NATIONAL SOCIALIST; THE "BRITISH UNION OF FASCISTS" WAS ONLY NOMINALLY FASCIST AS AN EXPEDIENT MEASURE TO APPEAL TO A MAJORITY THAT WOULD HAVE REJECTED OVERTLY SOCIALISTIC IDEAS.

>plebean alt-right scum tries to appropriate Fascism for their own reactionary, kitsch romanticist nationalism
You can blame the Marxists for that.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Read Fascism: 100 Questions Asked and Answered. The guy isn't a NatSoc you fool.

why are kids these days getting tricked into thinking fascism is cool

YES, HE WAS; ACTUALLY LEARN REGARDING HIS POLICY.

You can blame fascists for it, on account of never having an actual intellectual backbone to their movement.

He rejected National Socialist racialism. He also did not hate Jews as well (although he had plenty of Jewish enemies), furthermore he was inspired directly by Mussolini.

>le intellectualism
Marxtard spotted

Sadly true for fascism proper, national-syndicalism has a very firm intellectual tradition though, Maurras (mainly), Pujo, Daudet in France and the ramblings of Jose-Antonio in Spain.

It's obviously a rebellion against the political correctness in today's world and the fringe radical leftist ideologies taking over western universities.

Mosley was the greatest fascist and nobody can prove me wrong.

But he didn't accomplish anything.

...

He lived long enough to react to the world after WWII, unlike most fascists. It's unfortunate that he never gained power, but his ideas were still sound. None of the fascists really accomplished anything in the long run anyway, considering that they lost all power after the war.
t. savage aryan

Nope, León Degrelle was the best, he literally mixed up civic (classical), clerical and racial (natsoc) fascism into a one superior ideology: rexism.

There was an incredible description of Codrenau written by a jewish author of what it was like when he and his followers would ride into a town on their white horses and traditional clothes.

The peasants considered him an avatar of the Archangel Michael. Such a shame he was betrayed and murdered by the royal family.

There is no sensible scenario in which Mosley could've suceeded, Anglos with their materialism and deeply ingrained individualism are the last people on Earth who would embrace fascism. You can see this even on /pol/ where many British and American posters pretend to be fascists but they're really just edgy libertarians with a racist bent.

>you will never be a stinking, animalistic communist

Feels real good, man

Anyone here familiar with the American Blackshirts? They seem to be focused on Italian fascism and opposed to national socialism.

Are they serious, or are they LARPers?

Who?

they were more serious than the american natsoc party

No, no it didn't.

Yes it did. NSDAP got founded in 1919, Mussolini and Stalin both took power in the 1920s.

This is completely untrue.

D'annunzio, Marinetti and the futirists are the cultural backbones of italian fascism.

Gentile and Italian Idealists are the philosophical ones.

No

Ideas and action related to fascism in italy predates any action related to NatSoc in germany.

And they were relatively unknown until fascists took power in Italy, national socialism was created by Drexler and Feder and they didn't base anything on fascism.