I'm genuinely trying not to bait right now, but I need to know why this is such a huge issue.
The Egyptian Empire covered a massive chunk of North African land, including modern Sudan. Assuming that they held this chunk of border for hundreds of years, couldn't a black citizen technically be classified as an ethnic Egyptian.
I'm far from being a /pol/ "negroes can't create anything" or WE WAS KANZ person, but I fail to see why this blows up the internet every time it gets brought up.
Bentley Bennett
WAIT HOL UP
Nicholas Cook
We know that, it's just comical to think there are people who honestly believe that every ancient Egyptian was black.
Most of us know Egypt is a huge melting pot.
Wyatt Ramirez
Because people can't see nuance.
Grayson Williams
AYYYOOOO SO U BE SAYIN
Tyler Kelly
THAT WE *smacks lips*
Grayson Cruz
Hi there so like I'm resident East African and Saharan Africanboo here.
Nubia begins just south of Elephantine in what is today Egypt. The history of the Sahara has gone through many complex waves, the Nile has also dealt with great surges of migration.
Suffice to say the complexity of Egyptian phenotype and Genotype goes beyond our simplistic notions of black and white. However if the question came up asking would people we percieve as black be recognized as Egyptian then the answer is absolutely yes!
Somali, Eritreans,Northern Sudanese, Ethiopians etc... All fit within the confines of what were once Egyptian phenotypes as well as more Levantine phenotypes. The latter is a result of migrations recorded as unchecked and illegal but those people are Egyptian too.
Don't let Veeky Forums or really anyone tell you Egyptians weren't African or had a monolithic static look to them.
Black Americans also say "They were Black" but That is reactionary to the Europeanization of Egyptian imagery. I don't necessarily blame them since they too arose from Western worldviews but I'd much rather say they Egyptians were "black" rather than say "arab" because Arab isn't a race and Arabia's history is so complex.
Joshua Torres
Waz Kanghz?
Angel Walker
What do you mean by "black"? The term as originated n America means "person of West Africa (negro) origin". Nubians, by this measure, are not "black". They're dark skinned, sure, but they're not negroid, they're caucasoid.
Isaac Jones
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Jayden Allen
They're Nubian Dinuds, not Egyptians.
Cameron Hughes
Shut up. Somali are "Caucasoid" but everyone calls them black.
Charles Hughes
Were the persians black?
Tyler Jones
LMAO. I love it when Veeky Forums has occasional bubbles of sanity and "normie-ness".
Andrew Robinson
Copts are closes to Egyptians.
Brody Hernandez
The problem with that view is that "Caucasoid" isn't synonymous with White (For example, Arabs) so why should "negroid" be synonymous with Black? If Nubian and Ethiopians are Black in character what differences does it make?
Jason White
Every time I see a /pol/ user trying to shut down civilizations created by people of black skin color by stating "____ weren't really black", all I see is a white WE WAS KANGZ.
Dominic Edwards
Idiots call them black, you mean. But if you're an idiot then yes, there were "black" people in ancient Egypt.
Jaxon Wood
There are some black Persians and one founded Kilwa but otherwise their history is different from North Africa No, Copts speak an Egyptian derived language but they aren't "pure". They've only developed after the collapse of dynastic Egypt some 2kya.
Owen Russell
>(For example, Arabs)
Arabs are white. What else could they be? Black?
>so why should "negroid" be synonymous with Black?
Because that's what the term was invented to denote.
>If Nubian and Ethiopians are Black in character
They aren't, tho. Both have above retarded levels of Iq and are capable of building civilizations, nothing like negroes.
Lucas Miller
Black does not mean Negroid, black is a social category. Somali are black, Khoisan are black, blackness is not merely "congoid" neither are obsolete physical anthropological terminology the "most correct"
Colton Davis
>Arabs are white No they aren't. This isn't "White." I'd call NE Asian White before I called those darker Arabs of Arabian peninsula White.
Juan Sanders
Losers
Lincoln Reyes
>black is a social category This. But this being said, Egyptians were not "black" socially. Nubian were.
Joseph Ortiz
A group of Arabs who aren't White.
Colton Baker
Nubians and Egyptians were for the most part the same people. The nilotics of Nubia came further south before the confines of Nubia.
Brandon Bailey
>Nubians and Egyptians were for the most part the same people. Egyptians obvious disagreed. As do ancient people in general. No one considered them the same people.
Jace Perry
The ancient representions of Nubians by Nubians themselves aligned with the phenotypical variations of Egyptians
Even in the famous king Tut painting on a chariot Nubians were both like Egyptians and like Nilotics.
Julian Roberts
Arabs aren't a race, they're a linguistic/cultural group. Both people on this picture are "Arabs", do you think they're the same race?
Jason Powell
>Assuming that they held this chunk of border for hundreds of years, couldn't a black citizen technically be classified as an ethnic Egyptian. >citizen I'm not entirely certain the concept existed at the time, at least not as we would understand it. There were certainly SUBJECTS of the pharoah who we would consider black, but the question if they would have considered themselves or have been considered Egyptian, is an entirely different matter.
John Barnes
Thats because race is a social construct, and thus subjective.
Dominic Hill
Those arent real Arabs. Real Arabs are from the Gulf countries. The arabs in your pic just grew up in Arab culture
Jose Taylor
Those are actually niggers
The dude on the left looks more Irish than De Valera
Aiden Gutierrez
Who is this faggot that copy pasted song lyrics into every other thread.
James Reyes
Actually Arabs are part Cushitic, looking at the history of the Arabian Peninsula they still have left imprints in the region.