When the fuck are we going to get Constantinople back?

t. Louis XIV

Yeah man, those holy leagues of crusadecucks always work out great.

>larping

t. Slav Von Habsburg

The Ottomans were on their last legs after an exhausting war and several crushing defeats and the Holy League just needed to keep on pushing, which they were perfectly ready to do - until Louis XIV attacked.

Greek, Bulgarian and Serbian volunteers fought for the Holy League, and their nations weren't awarded any autonomy, because the war was cut short.
Meanwhile, Hungarian and Transylvanian nations, who fought for the Ottomans at least initially, were awarded some autonomy.

This is not the way the war should've played out.

>emoticon
Kill yourself scum

All you have to do is genocide the Eternal Turk. Its that easy.

Oh shit bruh, don't mention the Balkan nations, Ottoman supremacists will come claiming it's rightfully theirs

Only butthurt Balkans will deny that.

This is kind of like the Japanese boasting they beat the mongols, when the storm drowned most.

WHY DID CONSTANTINOPLE GET THE WORKS?

THAT'S NOBODY'S BUSINESS BUT THE TURKS!

>The Ottoman army was much smaller, but due to superior tactics, by conducting a night raid on the Serbian camp, Şâhin Paşa was able to defeat the Serbian army and kill King Vukašin and despot Uglješa. Thousands of Serbs were killed, and thousands drowned in the Maritsa river when they tried to flee

Atleast pretend to read.

>m-muh kebab remover
kek

>le Constantinople meme

End yourself

>retake it
>you now have a city in a foreign country

>Implying Turkey would be allowed to continue to exist

Try it Christfags

Everyone here is a larpung atheist user.

yea but they cant stop a nuke

>turkey can't stop it
>let's just ignore how the last time someone tried to claim Constantinople everyone got involved
Anyway you only care about it if you're orthodox or a Roman pretender

>giving Greece even more territory to hopelessly mismanage

not a good idea

Implying any country other than Russia could possibly be willing and able to do it.

> purposefully removing the numbers so it does not show the usual Turk zergrushing

> being this pathetic

> Using Ottoman source numbers as legitimate

> Believing that a single noble from Serbia could raise over 2000 men, let alone 60 000

>giving it to Greece
>not to Austria
>not to Russia
>not to Bulgaria
>not to Romania
>not to Italy
>not to France

Just give it to Turkey, its full of turks anyway.

>Tekken combo is an Ottoman commander
>be surprised they win
Cmon amerifats you're suppoused to see in vidya not logic

Was the Hippodrome really that comparatively big to the city or is this exaggerated

It could hold as many people as modern stadiums today, it's p big.

>t. georgios stavropoulos

>give it to Greece
>in a decade Greece sells it to Turkey in order to pay debts

They probably did but the actual article doesn't show numbers
[spoiler] inb4 >using desktop on mobile

>ethnostates
Hey Woodrow, you going to make the Japanese turn evil again!?

Include me in the screencap

Some sources say the crusader army was larger, even. Most agree they were comparable.

>turk zerg meme
Turks won with ability, not numbers.

>when you import your CK2 games to eu4.jpg

>Ability
Papist legate literally had polish king do a ( a pretty succesful, as Mehmet almost got BTFO) suicide charge, after that literally everything went wrong. Turks don't deserve credit for winning that battle, the Papacy deserves it for losing it on purpose.

When is our glorious Tsar going to take Alaska back?

It just looks like it takes up 1/3 of the city

> Some sources say the crusader army was larger, even

Yeah, two Ottoman sources.

Basically everyone else states that the crusaders were heavily outnumbered and still managed to inflict horrific casualties.

> Turks won with ability, not numbers.

lol, the crusader cavalry charge reached the sultans personal tent, the Ottoman army failed and the only reason they won is because the army routed once they saw the moron Vladislav's head on a pike.

It was an moral rout in the middle of a crusader onslaught that launched the whole Ottoman army into retreat.

The Ottomans were as lucky as at Nicopolis, where the Serb heavy cavalry saved the day by surprise charging into the crusader flank.

Except they never actually pay them.

You tried at Gallipoli and got BTFO

>London
>not currently under Muslim rule with their mayor

>relying on hypothetics

last I checked the city still fell to the British/French/Italians who held it for 5 years.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_Constantinople

>both sides say the other was bigger, so the christians are right and the muslims wrong
>the christians tried to cause a moral rout by killing the enemy king, a superior strategy
>but the muslims killed their king instead, which is very poor form, and not a real victory

Are you self aware?

>ability
I still don't understand how they could just press so many men into war and have a continuous empire for 400 years
You've got to be honest how much of a religious symbol that would be though
>inb4 he also had a white horse and pierced his hands the night before
>wanting anything to do with the Americas
If you want moral degeneracy go ahead

The British could have given it back to the Greeks after World War 1 but they did the usual anglo things.

>I still don't understand how they could just press so many men into war and have a continuous empire for 400 years

1. Your zerg theory is a meme.
2. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devshirme

>haha paki joke
>not noticing he said formal rule so >implied it already was
K den pol/lack
>more original sources say Muslims are larger
>we shall ignore this

>implying being at the sultan's tent means they charged straight there
Like the pol/lack again you need to go back to your reading comprehension lessons at Hitler's school for tolerance and diversity.

>the mediary party is at fault
>not the guy who had klansmen fantasies
K den
But it's not a meme, all revised sources list Ottoman combatant numbers as far higher than their Europeans combatants. The only time they win battles with the same numbers is when it's ottomans defending fortifications

Why can not the Greeks do anything for themselves? The British liberated Greece and won the first wars against the Ottomans for them, the only thing the Greeks had to do alone was to win a dead empire in a civil war and failed

>Nukes
>working on cockroaches
lmao, you can't get rid of the eternal roach

Both of them are pretty aesthetic.

because the spartans chimped out in 431 BC

Soon...

Putin is bff with Turkey now.

I just don't see any situation in any sort of future where someone tries to take the city and doesn't just completely ruin it of the things we want anyway. Upon first signs of people entering the city, the locals would level the Hagia Sofia out of sheer spite. It was one of the main things the 100,000 strong Greek army was worried about back in 1919 and one of the reasons why they tried to just take Ankara instead

ayy lmao

when we turn the entire black sea in to freshwater and then the city becomes a boom town due to size and relative location.

Its Turkish now.
It'd be nearly unrecognizable to the Byzantines that inhabited it in 1453 anyways.
The only option is conquest and we sure as hell don't want that, given that with conquest comes destruction.

>trump wearing military medals
this triggered me, congrats

Nice projecting.

let the muzzies maintain their delusions

>not wanting to genocide turks
what are you, a roach?

>It'd be nearly unrecognizable to the Byzantines that inhabited it in 1453 anyways.

Perhaps because its hundreds of years ago and those Byzantines are dead

But the locals are buttmad because it isn't a mosque anymore, are you sure they would level their crown jewel (outside of the blue mosque I guess)?

>what is a neutron bomb

The population exchange with Greece pretty much destroyed any chance at the city changing hands back to the west in the near and likely the far future as well.

Nerve agents?

never. u piece of shit. so much butthurt...

>typing u instead of you
That's some late 90s texting shit you got there.

Erdogan is a fucking egomaniac

>being a sultan
>not being paranoid
Do you even Turk history

Russia did, you were completely dependent on France and the UK saving you. This is not the 15th century, Turkish influence has been in free-fall ever since.

protip you cant take it back lol.some of you say we must genocide turks etc.Such comments make me proud that we killed armenians kick western capitalist anglo asses n shiet.You can nuke tough but there will be no constantinalole then.Deal with it.

When NATO crumbles and the filthy rats in Washington and London stop protecting the Mudslimes

>wait a few years (or decades) till greece hangs all of its dumbarse politicans and fixes its economy

>give whatever of istanbul was constantinople in 1453 to greece

>create a un buffer zone

>the west and christianity have triumphed

"""we"""

It's been turkish clay since the 15th fucking century, fuck off

The only way Constantinople is going to return to Christendom is if the Russians take it.

You Greeks will never have it again.

here's a map that shows the layout of the city. As you can see, it's pretty big comparatively