In 1213 King John after being excommunicated by Pope Innocent the third, sent emissary's to Morocco asking for protection, due to the majority of his barons hating him and threat from a French invasion. In return for Moroccan support he would make Islam the official state religion.
The caliphate of the time (thinking that this was retarded) rejected the proposal. My question is though what if he had accepted and sent troops to England, attempting to protecting John and enforcing a English conversion to Islam.
Noah Ramirez
lol no, the 13th century English would btfo any Morrocan invasion that came ashore.
Not to mention that you are talking about an amphibious assault 2000km away that has to pass the Castilian and Portuguese fleets.
It would have been a slaughter.
Brandon Watson
For the Ummayads, a rival muslim power not directly under their control was always a threat. The greatest threat to every islamic dynasty has always been other moslems.
Cameron Reed
Where the fuck did you read anything about a Moroccan invasion?
Lincoln Reyes
It wouldn't have been a invasion though? John still had some aspect of control and could have simply not told anyone until they landed.
As for Castile and Portugal Morocco with the support of other Ummayads could have held their own in a naval conflict.
Josiah Flores
>sent emissary's to Morocco asking for protection
Fucking anglos kill them all
Anthony Evans
everyone in england would be in an uproar and even his own men would turn on him
no smart person would waste men protecting him from his own people
Jeremiah Clark
>The caliphate of the time (thinking that this was retarded) rejected the proposal the only possible outcome, because it was retarded
Daniel Sullivan
>As for Castile and Portugal Morocco with the support of other Ummayads could have held their own in a naval conflict The Castillian navy alone would have buttfucked all the Ummayad fleets combined.A pathetic English fleet annihilated the Mameluks in the mediterranean in the nineth crusade.How the fuck would they beat a stronger navy than England's plus the Portuguese fleet?
Mason Carter
Then the marriage deal Richard and Saladin were considering between their siblings suddenly makes a lot more sense.
Wyatt Collins
>Ummayad
This wasn't a thing in the 13th century. The caliphate in question would have been the Almohad empire.
Aiden Edwards
>Where the fuck did you read anything about a Moroccan invasion?
Military support would have been required and basically everyone would know about it long before they reached England, that is, if they ever reached England.
>As for Castile and Portugal Morocco with the support of other Ummayads could have held their own in a naval conflict.
> Ummayads >13th century
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Grayson Gomez
Mamelukes are shit tier in comparison to Morroco and Tunisian navy's. All these burqas did was raid the Mediterranean so they could come back with more galleys to take more shit.
Zachary Cook
I read the first comment and it fucked me up.
Connor Howard
>The Castillian navy Did Castile even have a navy in 1213?
Aiden Jones
>Papal/Imperial/baronial/claimant assassin kills John the Apostate >dump his corpse to the dirt >order restored
Luis Roberts
Yes.They took Seville that way The Almohad navy got BTFO by the Castillian navy at Seville and Cadiz.If you add Portugal and Aragon to the mix there is no chance for this to happen
Gavin Adams
what is this cuck bullshit about sandnigger fleets? those people are too retarded to buld and maintain navies for fucks sake. is this some kike board or what?
Connor Cooper
This whole incident is a myth as far as I can tell. No reputable source confirms that this proposal ever actually existed, though the myth seems popular and persistent the middle east and the islamic community in Britain. That being said even making the proposal would have resulted in a massive uprising by the barons, who were quite willing to defy the authority of a weak king like John (as seen when they strong-armed him into signing the Magna Carta)
Nathaniel Harris
This tapestry must have been made by a Jew to trick us then. lmao