Christians: what denomination are you, and why?

Christians: what denomination are you, and why?

I was raised Episcopalian but I'm considering joining the Catholic church. I'm pretty far left of center as far as political and social beliefs go, so I find it hard to reconcile my personal beliefs with those of the papacy (and I imagine most Catholics are very conservative).

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Catholics aren't Christian

>considering joining the Catholic Church
>I'm pretty far left
You're going to the right place. Please stay away from Christian churches.

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Don't listen to this guy, Francis is increasingly being opposed and he's in his 80s. The Church is still very traditional. I won't call it "conservative," because that implies it lies somewhere on the post-Enlightenment political spectrum. The Church does not lie on this spectrum. The Church is more than a millennium older than this spectrum, and thus does not fit on it.

Classic conservative answer. Avoid being associated with the "right wing" because it's seen as stupid, so instead say your ideology "transcends" the bipartisan spectrum.
>I'm pretty far left of center as far as political and social beliefs go
Do you actually believe in the supernatural claims of Christianity? Or are you just trying to adjust it into base liberation theology, thinking it was all about class struggle?

>15 You shall not pervert judgement; you shall not be partial to the poor, nor defer to the great: with justice you shall judge your neighbor.
Leviticus 19:15

I believe in the statements of the Nicene Creed and the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist.

You are a liar. Stay away from Christianity, but feel free to join Catholicism.

And furthermore I believe that even though the Bible contains enormous truth and continues to speak to people today in many ways, it needs to be considered holistically, not just as an entire text but also within the context of Judaism and the early Church. It's too easy to take a verse or two and use it to justify whatever position you hold.

Catholics are the most ridiculous heretics and idolaters imaginable, worshipping bread and wine.

>Classic conservative answer. Avoid being associated with the "right wing" because it's seen as stupid, so instead say your ideology "transcends" the bipartisan spectrum.

But Catholicism does transcend the left-right matrix. It supports certain policies that are very far to the left, and certain policies that are very far to the right, and they're all of a piece.

Are you willing to accept that, although the developed world may be the cause of a significant amount of their miseries; the developing world may be dead wrong, even dangerously immoral, on some issues? That homosexuals are naturally gay; but cannot have gay sex at anytime, nor get married, without falling into grave sin? That abortion is always a grave sin, and is deliberate murder if the mother's life isn't threatened? That one cannot truly be moral without a loving relationship with the Trinitarian God? That socialism and collectivism of all kinds must be renounced, in favor of the ideal society being founded on distributism? That the Holy Spirit guides the actions of the Pope, thus making him incapable of falling into error in matters of theology and social teaching? That although all have a duty to help foreigners and refugees, all nations have the right to exist; even the disgusting white ones who commit nothing but the crimes of murder, theft, and clay stealing? That Jesus never did or said anything immoral at anytime?

>even the disgusting white ones

oh look another idiot who thinks Christians are Jews. Jesus dealt unfairly in favor of the poor, and his word overrides the law.

Kinda like national socialism ?

Hitler was a catholic

I've no idea what you're trying to go for, but I can already tell youre wrong.

lmao

This is correct. The Catholic Church does not quite fit on any political spectrum because it defines specific ideals and parameters and uses whatever works to arrive at that point.

You'd think everyone and everywhere would do this, but with sports team politics between left and right have caused irreparable harm to political discourse in general. You get a lot of people who are willing to support one side for the reason they don't like the other rather than because their beliefs align with the side they support.

>I'm pretty far left of center as far as political and social beliefs go
Like a Christian Socialist?

lol

>Article says "Gay people should be embraced by the Catholic Church"
>Article goes on to say the Pope is telling Catholic stop harassing and threatening gay people as the call to holiness is to hate the sin, not the sinner.
>Also says not to excuse or rationalize the sin as well.

>Conservatives upset the pope is urging restraint at all.
>Liberals mad he's not saying their lifestyle is ok.

It's literally the best of both worlds, everyone's mad with one regular statement.

How about just do what the bible tells you instead of caring about which political group you're gonna please fucktwat?

I swear Catholics can't think without worldly political calculations, that's why one day they are nazis and the very next day they are SJWs.

So, love your enemies? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone? Sounds like what he's doing.

good response. typical cultural christian. you just want an excuse to hate.

I read the New Testament, and pray every day, but I don't go to Church.

Which denomination is this?

Christian

I was born catholic but this pope is as bad as they can come nowadays and im jumping ship to another denomination until the next pope is elected.

I still believe in the office of the pope being hilariously useful but this particular one is basically satan.

Reccomend me a denomination that wont send me to hell.

It's okay, user. You're already going there.

Join us Presbyterians. We are on average the wealthiest and most educated Christian denomination.

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wealthy people can't get into heaven

>pope says reject jesus
>going to hell because a pope is going to hell
Hi Luther!

Didn't you read on the OP that he's a leftcuck? He's probably looking to infiltrate your church with gay and pedo filth. Let him join the Catholics who already are infested with gay, pedos and leftists.

Then why did God bless the works of His people's hands? Why didn't He bless the works of the poor?

Didn't you read in the OP that he's a leftcuck? He's probably looking to infiltrate your church with gay and pedo filth. Let him join the Catholics who already are infested with gay, pedos and leftists

This is actually what happened. Pope made a statement to specific beliefs, everyone was upset because it didn't reinforce their particular views.

just because your works are blessed doesn't mean you'll get into heaven

orthodoxy is the only true christian faith

catholicism is paganism now with the current pope and protestantism is heresy-lite tier which is ok but should be purged every 50 years

You forgetting that woman and her two coppers, user? Also gospel of wealth lol. Downright Puratin theology.

I'm Catholic. I believe that the Orthodox are our brothers in Christ, I don't know why so many of them on here (read: LARPers) hate us.

>Be faithful Christian
>You work industriously, tireless in building a productive enterprise from nothing
>God blesses your works and they bear fruit
>Become homeowner and be fruitful according to God's will. You send your children to the best schools
>Pay off your debts, pay taxes to the government to pay for communal infrastructure and government services, give tithings to the church for alms to the poor and fund our missionaries across the world
>"LMAO dude sell your business and give away everything you own!"
>"Jesus wanted you to be a listless babbling zealot who owned nothing but rags and live in a gutter!"
>"Jesus wanted you to never get married, be a permavirgin, and have no family!"

the current pope is proof of why catholicism is shit, he's a puppet of the globalists who wants to destroy the christian identity in europe and NA

militant orthodoxy is the only choice

He's not my favorite, but he's overhyped as being far more liberal than the actually is by the sensationalist media. He isn't going to change Catholic doctrine, he's just using lofty words.

That is literally what he wanted. You worship an extension of your ego, not a psychotic doomsday prophet.

non-denominational?

NT is baby-tier. read the OT you Marcion fuck

This
Spurgeon was a millionare and he spent almost all of it on missions

Catholic atheist here.

You won't lose your head over apostasy (at least those days) so that's cool.

>Catholic atheist here.
Empirical solipsist here, everything you said is absolutely wrong.

Are you... sure?

Child raping shit skins the lot of you. GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY YOU FUCKING NIGGERS

This is the absolute worst way to evangelize
It's like screaming "Unregenerate sinners, come ruin my church!"

This. What church are you a part of? Serbian Orthodox here.

Shinto-Kirishitan

Jesus stole all his goody two shoes philosophy from traveling Theravada Buddhist monks. So I switched to that. Buddha is the real OG savior of man. Except you basically have to save yourself by telling everything and everyone else to fuck off with their shit. There now you know how your magic miracle Jew got so popular.

Source: When I was going down on your mom, she told me.

Baptist.

As is said in the Bible, Jesus is God in the flesh and only through him can one enjoy eternal salvation.

I'm only really a cultural christian, and even that's weak.

However, I was raised by a far-out commune in West Virginia who were trying to breed the anti-christ so that Jesus could come down and smite me and bring about the Second Coming.

Catholic is the only real answer.

Raised a semi-nondenominational Christian. Grew up attending a Baptist Church, then one of those just-plain-churches because I'm an American and that happens.

The more I read philosophy and theology, the more I both like the idea of the Catholic church, and am further disgusted by it's heresies that accompanies it. I guess this is what the first Lutherans felt like.

I really want to just go back to pre-Catholic/Orthodox split Christendom where it was really just Nicene Christians vs heretics and heathens with a huge dose of Hellenic Philosophy (Stoicism mainly) to boot.

Fucking what

Born and raised Catholic. Haven't practiced it in years tho.

>secret hillbilly tribal communes

please tell me more

>Catholic atheist
you must be baiting

Oh wait. You must be one of those "cultural catholics". Kindly fuck off.

Born Catholic, became an edgy atheist/agnostic for about 6 years, but about a month ago I started to reconsider going back. I had an epiphany about death, about how meaningless I was making my life and how arrogant I was to feel that I could be my own god. I cried when I repented. It was that strong.

Reminder that you're all fake christians anyway.

>II. THE VOCATION TO CHASTITY

>2348 All the baptized are called to chastity. The Christian has "put on Christ,"135 the model for all chastity. All Christ's faithful are called to lead a chaste life in keeping with their particular states of life. At the moment of his Baptism, the Christian is pledged to lead his affective life in chastity.

>Offenses against chastity

>2351 Lust is disordered desire for or inordinate enjoyment of sexual pleasure. Sexual pleasure is morally disordered when sought for itself, isolated from its procreative and unitive purposes.

>2352 By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. "Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action."138 "The deliberate use of the sexual faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose."

>2353 Fornication is carnal union between an unmarried man and an unmarried woman. It is gravely contrary to the dignity of persons and of human sexuality which is naturally ordered to the good of spouses and the generation and education of children.

>2354 Pornography consists in removing real or simulated sexual acts from the intimacy of the partners, in order to display them deliberately to third parties. It offends against chastity because it perverts the conjugal act, the intimate giving of spouses to each other.

>Chastity and homosexuality

>2357 Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,141 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."142 They are contrary to the natural law. Under no circumstances can they be approved.

>implying any of the autistic Christians on this board have ever had sex

oh fuck off. Jesus never condemned jacking off and for that matter no one in the Bible did. I don't even know who started the "masturbation is bad" meme. The thing that was condemned was Onan throwing his seed and not fullfilling his duties as a husband out of fear.

>damning approx 1 billion people to hell
If Catholics get sent there, Orthodox Christians will join them according to your logic due to their practice of the admiration of icons and saints

>i selectively ignore what i don't like
Fake christian confirmed.

>I selectively ignore what I don't like
Masturbation is never condemned in the Bible. If God wanted for us to not masturbate, it would've been added to the Bible. This is one of the few things that I greatly dislike about the Church teachings. It was fully intended to control people's sexual lives by denying them the enjoyment of their own body.

Not even his duty as a husband, but his duty as a brother.

>17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. 18 And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”
>whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven
u mad brah

ITT: Christians fighting between them, condemning to Hell every branch that is not their own.
>Christians fighting
I'm not even Christian, but I've read the Bible. You guys are hilarious.

Sounds Peter Cephas fanboys tried to elevate their master over the others and interpolated this passage
Also no proof that Peter ever actually made it to Rome and didn't just die in Galilee

That doesn't refute what Jesus said at all.

Enjoy pretending to be christian.

Papal infallibility is complete nonsense. And the fact is that we're not immune to the resurgence of anti-popes or people that actually want to destroy the church makes it even worse. The fact is that the Pope is as much of a political head than a religious head.

"Give back to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's". Jesus greatly disliked the corruption of the religious head at his time. And if he was here, it's obvious he would've thought the same.

Not a Christcuck because it's a fucking retarded religion that makes no sense

1. I don't understand X
2. Therefore, it follows that X makes no sense!
How would it make sense? That would mean that I'm ignorant!! That can't be true: I know EVERYTHING!!!

I'm not even Christian, but you're retarded as fuck, friend.

Chosing your ideology not because it's true, but because it feels better.
Pathetic.

Wrong post.

Chosing your ideology not because it's true, but because it feels better.
Pathetic.

Retard.

Honestly, it sounds more interesting than it really was. Bear in mind, when most of this happened, I was a small child and only had a vague idea of what was going on. But it was one of these far out Christian communities, the ones that preached hellfire and apocalypse in imminent times, but that we needed to drive up the full measure of sin to bring about the second coming. Hence, me.

There was a whole lot of mumbo-jumbo, but they took the most sinful woman they had (most of the members were people who had messed up something in their life and were looking for some kind of salvation, so there was a fair bit to choose from), and had all of the men in the cult fap into a cup and use that to conceive me, because polyspermy is the sign of the antichrist or something.

When I was born, I was mostly ignored but I do remember several adults impressing me as to how it was important for me to throw rocks at passing cars. Eventually, DHHR got involved and I was taken away to a series of foster homes, but I was given occasional contact with my mother, who stayed a true believer in that sort of nonsense and kept trying to get me to "fulfill my mission" and step up to the role of the Anti-Christ.

So, you're a pagan.

Because you are a part of a murderous organization that is the most evil pagan religion on planet earth.

And you think the exact opposite is true.

That's why.

Peter was married with children.

Your pagan religion is nonsense.

Dunno about the fear part, seems more like an irresponsible person who enjoyed the sex but did not want to replace his brother in the tribe's inheritance lottery.

Church of Peter is wrong about Peter on all counts.

Doesn't matter to members of Church of Peter.

>people can't find out that an ideology is true out of personal experience and revelation

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>The Real History of the evil Roman Catholic Church
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>Detailed Documentary Exposing Islam (3 hours)
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>Black Hebrew Israelites Debunked
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>Allah is Satan, Jesus is God
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Make sure to watch these videos before deciding.

I didn't remember it correctly but I do now. It was like "I'm going to have sex with her but my son won't be considered mine, instead he will be my dead brother's son". In modern words, he didn't want to be cucked by a dead man.

Christians are Christians.
Not everyone who says he's a Christian is a Christian. For example, these Catholics think that they are Christians, and they are for the most part dead wrong.

Denominations are for choosing the type of worship you would like to participate in. Some people like the frenetic activity of a charismatic church. Some like the good old solid Southern Baptist hymnal and preaching from the bible. Some like to get together and have social functions, some don't.

This catholic nonsense that there are 30,000 different kinds of Christianity is absurd. There are no significant differences between the First Baptist Church of Lexington and the First Baptist Church of Louisville, or the First Methodist Church of either, but for perhaps immersion baptism v sprinkling.

And as the bible says, which of course the catholics are blissfully unaware of for the most part, Paul tells people to be convinced in their own heart as to what is right; what day to consider holy, if any; what food to eat, if any restrictions; etc.

The Roman Catholic Church is nothing but the continuation of pagan Babylon mixed with the continuation of the Roman Empire.

Its members are cruel and arrogant and pagan to the core.

No, that's not it at all.

The land of Israel was divided into possession of the 12 tribes. Each tribe would divide its part up among its families. Each family would have a plot of land.

If your brother died without issue, his inheritance would be lost. To prevent that, as a brother, you would have a son with his wife, likely name it after your dead brother, and that son would retain his land inheritance.

It's all about land, the acquisition of land, the holding of land, and the reclaiming of land during the Jubilee.

After all, virtually all wealth comes from the land.

Then why he didn't fulfill his duties?

I went to RCIA (Catholic) and I really admire how seriously and honestly everyone spoke. They weren't going to pander to some flavor of the month post-christian philosophy. That said I wasn't able to commit due to some of theology, maybe one day though.

>>The Roman Catholic and Islamic Connection
What is this pseudohistory

It's real history. It chronicles the devil's modus operandi for blocking the spread of Christianity.

Not that guy, but it's quite clear if you know how ancient Judean inheritence laws worked.

You divide the decedent's estate into shares equal to the number of surviving male children (or their own heirs) +1. You then give the firstborn son 2 shares, and each other brother one share.

If Onan has no kids with Tamar and Judah dies, he is Er's heir as well as getting a share in his own right, meaning he gets 3 shares (of 4, I think, but I don't remember offhand how many kids Judah had), which is presumably quite a bit.

If he has a kid through this levirate marriage though, that child is considered Er's son, and therefore that kid inherits Er's double share, and Onan only gets 1.

I dunno, all this religious babbling about small details seems like a lot of work for not much benefit. I'd rather just do what Jesus thought was really important, and follow the spirit of his teachings instead of jerking myself over every specific word as if God literally sat at a desk and carved the Bib Bob out of adimantium and intends on me to follow to the letter every old social meme from 2000+ years ago, like some old Jewish leaders were expected everyone to do.

Being left in the past is for idiots who refuse inoculation on religious grounds, no thanks.

I have a huge problem with faith as a concept. I see myself as an individual lacking faith, or that my faith is clouded by doubt. Thus, I see myself unable to develop an honest relationship with God. What can I do?

Ahhh gavelkind succession
Almost as bad as ultimogeniture