It's a French world, we're all just living in it

This, France was founded by Franks/French people inside a time paradox.

That one is missing some dates.

How did France create Spain? Even the successor kingdoms of the Marchia Hispanica split from the French/Carolingian crown as soon as they could with Aragon even trying to dispute Paris' influence in the Midi during the Middle Ages.

Well France launched the Reconquista not only by beating back the Muslims over the Pyrenees but also by conquering Barcelona, and establishing the Marca Hispanica which would become the basis for the Spanish state.

Asturias is a meme, the Reconquista started from the Spanish March.

Belgium was not created by France idiot.

Neither was pretty much every other country on that map.

>says him, as he type in English

Now post the one with Rome and countries created by Rome and countries created by countries created by Rome. Then post the one about cultures heavily influenced by ancient Judaism and cultures heavily influenced by cultures heavily influenced by Judaism and cultures heavily influenced by cultures heavily influenced by cultures heavily influenced by Judaism.

WE LIVE

APE WORLD

ALL LANDS

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

How did Germany "create" Finland, again?

>North Korea created by America
>All of those post-soviet states created by America
>ROC created by America
>Afghanistan created by the UK
>Everything except Serbia created by Yugoslavia
>Finland created by Germany

DAMN NIGGA! WOW

>le fronz

'non'

What a fool.

lol what

France literally invaded in order to prevent the Dutch from taking back Belgium.

>Following the installation of Leopold I as "King of the Belgians" in 1831, King William made a belated military attempt to reconquer Belgium and restore his position through a military campaign. This "Ten Days' Campaign" failed because of French military intervention.

>English, a French creole created by the French rulers of England

That's pretty easy, there's zero countries created by Rome in the world today.

>Netherlands was created by the french
>in 1648
what

Russia collapsed due to being defeated by Germany in 1917, this is how Finland got its independence.

>Countries created by countries created by France

>being forced to speak the language of a former colony
must feel bad

Treaty of Münster, part of the Peace of Westphalia. Dutch independence was achieved through the defeat of Spain by France.

We're all speaking America's language m8.

Pretty sure the Dutch did most of it themselves

>America's language
Yeah. English.

English, aka bastardised French

They had been at war for their independence for 80 years, unsuccessfully.

Things only changed with the Franco-Dutch alliance, and France joining the Thirty Years War and obliterating Spanish hegemony.

>germany, a disunited clusterfuck until 1991, was created in 843
>poland, one of the largest independent states in europe for hundreds and hundreds of years, was created in 1918
>the uk was created in 1066

yeah, nah

>turkey
>vietnam
>algeria
>cameroon
>germany
>uk

So "created by" is just a euphemism for "lost a war to"

DELETE THIS

MFW France's borders were already roughly defined by the Romans after Caesar conquered Gaul, and it is actually the Romans who had the biggest impact on the drawing of the world map, even though they existed 1500 years before we drew world maps

I see nothing wrong with this desu.

Germany was continuously independent since 843, Poland wasn't. England wasn't England before 1066 (that is not the England we know), it was totally refounded by Norman colonisation.

>mfw bastardised French has eclipsed French 10 times over in importance

By that reasoning the Americans won WWII and thus created France

Read a book spastic.

Except France already existed, the fuck you on about.

All those are from wars won by France, or colonies created from scratch and granted independence by France.

>Germany was continuously independent since 843

Germany didn't even exist until 1871

>England wasn't England before 1066

The Kingdom of England was founded over a hundred years before the Norman Conquest, roughly 950 IIRC. William did not found a new state, he took the crown of an existing kingdom. His entire casus belli - as endorsed by the Pope - was a claim on the throne of England. He'd have had no legitimacy at all had he been establishing a new kingdom

>france already existed

No it didn't. Vichy France did, which was a German-created puppet regime.

If Poland didn't exist until 1918 according to OP, by his own logic neither did France during WW2, when it was surrendered to the Germans

Gaul's borders are pre-Roman though. And they're natural borders, so they were drawn by God.

beat me to it

Turkey and Russia are still around

luckily it's the closest a "Germanic" language can get to a Latin one so learning Spanish won't be that hard

France existed both as Vichy and as Free France. Poland didn't exist in any way, there was no Polish government of any sort, and the land that became Poland was provinces of Russia and Germany. Stop being autistic Pawel, those two situations have absolutely nothing in common.

this is accurate

Id say the borders were defined by the Romans but clearly based off of natural features. I dont think you would have gotten many pre-roman Gauls to agree that it made sense to classify all of the tribes living in that area as living within the same borders.

I don't even

Turkey was created after WW1, unless you consider it the same state as the Ottoman Empire (highly debatable), which dates back to the 13th century as a khaganate. Nothing to do with Rome. And Russia was founded by the Rus who were either Vikings or Slavs.

France created the County of Barcelona, but didnt create Leon, Castile or Portugal.
Not sure if Spain should be considered a French creation.

They were ethnic borders too. Gaul was Celtic land, the few Germanic tribes that had spilled over the Rhine were an exception.

England existed before 1066 too. As did Scotland which for some reason you've decided was created in 1066.

France evolved from West Francia. The Frankish Empire before 843 isn't France

Let's be real, England as we know it, that is a French colony with a highly French-influenced culture and ruled by a French upper class, came into being in 1066. Conflating England with the old Aenglisc kingdom is like conflating Mexico with the Aztec Empire or the Arab republic of Egypt with ancient Egypt.

Same name, same capital, same royal and religious traditions, same key cities... It's the same country m8.

are the french really this delusional?
these levels of we wuzism are off the charts

>this lack of argument

OP doesn't recognize successor states, so according to his logic, France was created in 1958, so only the African countries which France "created" by losing wars of independence to should be colored on this map.

>England...(lots of nonsense)...came into being in 1066
WRONG
Still doesn't explain Scotland. Which is the thing I'm really bumbattered about.

>France before 1958 wasn't France

lol I had heard "France before 843 wasn't France", but this is a new low in Veeky Forumsposting.

Nigger Scotland is a province of England. It's not a country, it's not even on that map.

HOL UP HOL UP
WE WUZ FRANK
KANGZ AND SHIEEEET

>what do you mean the Franks came from the low lands?
>nope, not a single drop of celtic blood here

Japan was created by a country created by France though.

Well apparently Austria wasn't Austria, Poland wasn't Poland, Hungary wasn't Hungary, and Afghanistan wasn't Afghanistan until 1918, so I don't see why this is inconsistent with OP's logic in literally any way

>Scotland is a province of England

> it's not even on that map.
Neither is England.

>country called France
>capital is Paris
>roughly covers Gaul
>kings called "king of the Franks"
>kings crowned in Rheims
>kings buried in Paris
>patron saints are Saint Denis and Sainte Genevieve

>but it's a totally different country you guys, no relation

Holy shit just how desperate or historically illiterate are you?

>and yet england before 1066 is not england
Holy shit just how desperate or historically illiterate are you?

Pretty sure Japan is too old for that.

None of those were independent countries. You think France wasn't an independent country in 1957?

England is a French colony, Ingurland wasn't.

Who, USA?

Do you think Afghanistan wasn't in 1900? Do you think Poland wasn't in 1600? Do you think Austria wasn't in 1700? Do you think Hungary wasn't in 1400? Do you think Turkey wasn't in 1500?

>haha lmao but they arent the same country they have had countless constitutional changes since then
>but Germany? hahaha germany has been unchanged since 867 despite not even existing until a thousand years after that :^)

>You think France wasn't an independent country in 1957?
it certainly wasn't in 1942

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Verdun
The Germans, Dutch, and Belgians have as much claim to the Frankish empire as the French do

>muh cherrypicking
>Frank=French
>this level of retardation

I like how you ignore the Franks spoke proto-Dutch and that Clovis I was literally born on Belgian/Dutch soil.
If anything the lowlanders are the true descendants of the Franks, you gaulish scum can go wewuzism all you want, this fact wont change

None of those countries were independent one year before their independence dates. France was independent one year before 1958. Move on.

But it was, it even had two governments.

>Holy shit just how desperate or historically illiterate are you?
Desperate then?

Well, East Francia got a different name after same time and West Francia became just known as France. It means nothing, and the area where Franks came from and where Frankish dialects are still spoken is outside of France.

The "capital" would be Aachen during Charlemagne. Not sure what particular religious and royal traditions you mean that were exclusive to France. The Imperial tradition founded by Charlemagne at least wasn't continued in France.

Half of the Frankish Empire's territory isn't France, including Tournai, Aachen, Rome, Cologne etc.

lol what are you going to bring up next, haplogroups?

But even going along with your retardedness, France was already mostly Latin speaking since its foundation, nothing changed.

I'd like you to explain how Austria was not independent in 1917.

It's interesting because if you say it doesn't count because it was in union with Hungary, then the UK is also null and void because England, which was allegedly established in 1066, has not been independent on that logic since 1707 when it entered into union with Scotland

But even going along with YOUR retardedness, the HRE was already Germanic speaking since its foundation, nothing changed.

See Are you German by any chance? I noticed Germans seem to learn in school that Charlemagne came out of nowhere.

France existed for 300 years before Charlemagne you know, Charlemagne was just another king of France before he conquered most of Germany and Italy and was given the title of emperor.

>I'd like you to explain how Austria was not independent in 1917.
lol it says 1806.

American map reading skills detected.

So? What does that have to do with anything? I'm not the poster who complained about OP's map putting 843 for Germany.

Just pointing out that France!=Frankish empire
something that's extremely hard to get into a frog's skull

Pretty sure you already got told: Changing the subject won't help.

>Pretty sure you already got told:
That guy contradicted himself something shocking.

nod really

t. that guy

>Same capital

GUYS
NEWS FLASH.

FRANCE IS ACTUALLY BELGIUM.

'no'
>Frankish kings buried in France counts
>Frankish kings born in the low lands/Germany don't
>Frankish=French lmao
>The empire was split in three, but only our part is the true successor because i say so
>HRE doesn't count because of reasons

>Paris is in Belgium

This fucking board mang

Aachen was the founding capital of the Frankish empire, it's in Germany.

Tournai was the last capital of the Frankish empire, it's in Belgium.