Be left-wing, dude weed-type, like dude live and let live :D XD

You had me up until
>Become more conservative
Surely you should be sceptical of all convenient narratives rather than buy into a different onr?

But communism is as much a philosophical matter as it is a political one. To write it off and ban people who discuss it as /pol/itical shitposting isn't right.

I would mean more in the moderate, cautious sense rather than political party.

>Anyone know this feel?
Not really. Reading history made me more left-wing.

Same here

Same here. It was just recently I learned that the nazis weren't all that bad, and that there actually are inconsistencies regarding the holocaust (mainly the numbers).

>It was just recently I learned that the nazis weren't all that bad
i don't think you understood the OP properly about the actually reading history books.

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you have to go back

How so? Interested

t. stalin did nothing wrong

Money and resources are the movers and shakers of history.

I'm economically left wing and socially right wing. Used to be the opposite 10 years ago.

even though I have no interest in the discussion, I can't see how this post isn't related to the board, and I've been here since day one.

Uhhh ok

I just became a centrist.

What up my senpaitachi
The right have always been whores of the powerful desu

is that mozart or beethoven?

Yeah, that's quite common, which is why history departments tend to be more right wing than other humanities departments.
Not particularly so, since there's basically a left wing mafia inside every university in the west, but still.

I think seeing society in perspective makes you desire a radical change in it and adopt extremist positions.
I myself became more and more socialist as I deepened my studies, while at the same time losing hope in the revolutionary potential of mankind, who will always take the works of great men like Jesus, Marx and Lenin and help little men like Paul, Kautsky, and Stalin distort it, because the proletariat has still not realised its potential for individual liberation, only of his power as a group, so it will always rally behind a fuhrer for now.
And that makes me sad.

It's weird, in my department those that aren't apolitical are either far left or far right. Meanwhile most of the teachers are center-of-left liberals like the students of other departments. Is this a universal thing? Southern european here btw.

>racis

History helps you put things in a correct macrohistorical context. Provided you have a good command of broader history to begin with anyway.

It's impossible for some shitlib to fool a well educated Veeky Forumstorian because he knows all of the moral bluster about how horrible the put-down of the Indian mutiny or the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade is just selective outrage, and that there's nothing morally sui generis about what Europeans did.

You can only fool people who have no knowledge of macrohistory. Who don't know about the Han Chinese ethnically cleansing the Austronesians on Taiwan, or exterminating the Sogdonians, or taking over Guangdong from its native inhabitants, or the excesses of the Mongolians, the various Islamic Caliphates etc.

The problem is that libs are ostensibly opposed to "Eurocentrism" but eagerly promote Eurocentrism when it comes to perceived historical "crimes". That's how the disjointed picture emerges in the first place.

>discover with horror how much misinformation and hyperbole is floating around in the normie-sphere

most people are fucking retarded about history

Libs only show up in a particular culture when conditions are good, and the outrage towards particular resource control arises.
They are just a particular side effect to any normal society. The modern outrage against "eurocentrism" or whatever is really what is expected.
Being mad at this is a waste of time. If you fight for freedom, it's only natural that your children will resent you for being violent in the first place. Kids are always eternally mad at their parents, and this is ok.

Yeah, one of the reasons I first started to doubt liberalism was when I realized it could only subsist in very comfortable, wealthy societies. To me that says "this ideology can only exist when there's enough distraction, entertainment and other technology papering over the cracks it creates".

A good system can subsist in just about any society. Look at China's Confucian meritocracy or the older Republics of Europe (Venice).

Wait you actually bought liberalism? What made you question it? I need to know because of reasons.

It made me feel good on some chemical/neurological level. Honestly. It felt good to identify with modern saints like Mandela and the hagiographic myths that had spun up around them. It felt like you were part of this winning team, but also got to pretend to be the counter-culture at the same time.

On a theoretical level, I also liked the idea of gestating this new perfect society into existence through ever more elaborate social engineering schemes.

When you believe that human nature is 100% environmental (de facto terms) then it's easy to believe you can do just about anything with legislation and policy.

Oddly enough even then I was deeply uneasy with all the anti-white stuff, which back in my day (I'm 30 now) was far less pronounced than it is now.

>be far right as a teen (thanks to my mom's autism)
>read a bit
>be chomskyite in late teens
>read extensively, left, right, center, history, law and economics
>end up being moderately center right, moderately pro free market
>staunchly anti communist and anti fascist

Addendum: I just realized that it probably satisfied some part of a need in my psychological economy for religion. And that for a lot of other liberals, liberalism has become their ersatz religion too. It's a vacuum that gets filled.

The phenomenon is called being blackpilled. Also stop buying into the liberal-conservative slap fight fuckery, that shit is cancer.

Ah another Jacques Doriot in the making, welcome to the club. In about 5 months you will end prasing Hitler...
And see this is how one becomes a whore to the judeomasonic league.

And communism and fascism aren't judeomasonic?

I don't know ask trotski i think he had a big surprise for hanukkah. And also post-WW2 URSS was anti-zionist and anti-israel everybody knows that.

And while Mussolini Italy and Francoist Spain weren't at all anti-semites they agreed the requests from Germany to persecute jews, masons and etc. Franco even had a museum of the horrors of masonism. Fascism or communism they are essentially anti-capitalist and by extension anti-judeomasonic and no the jews didn’t fund the URSS, Lenin was an atheist of christian origins and Stalin an orthodox christian.

Lenin was an asiatic Jew.

>Stalin an orthodox christian
Loving Every Laugh

And you seem to focus on every non-European atrocity. You arent much better

Really mud? You know me personally enough to draw such a conclusion? I don't even consider them atrocities for starters, just part of the pattern of history. Human nature is the same everywhere. Mindless religious like outrage accomplishes nothing but smug self satisfaction for cunts like you.

His mother was and then she converted to christianism please come on... Also Lenin was an atheist and the closest faith to him was christianism.
>Loving Every Laugh
Thank you to I love talking with liberturds a lot so tell me how does this invisible hand work? Do you pray to the holy capital? Tell me is your health care as deficient as your intellect?

I'm becoming more traditionalist. I used to believe in equality for everyone, even considering myself a feminist in my teens. After reading more and more I'm starting to realize that traditional roles are probably the most equal thing we ever worked out, and absolute equality is a dream due to sexual differences. However, I'm not becoming more conservative in the sense of becoming pro-capitalism, pro business, or anything like that. I still think it's a terrible system.

I think in the grand scheme it made me more left wing, because no one wants to be a peasant or serf working the same 100 yards for their whole life span to die at age 40 or as cannon fodder. But at the same time, I'm cautious center-right.