Thought I'd make a new thread dedicated to making and sharing charts. It can also double as a book discussion thread. Unfortunately I'm back in school so I don't think I'll be making so many this week. But I encourage other anons to pick up the slack. If Veeky Forums and other boards can make their own content to share, we should be able to as well desu. Don't be afraid to discuss and share your thoughts about books you're reading or have read.
If you want to try you're hand at making charts on a particular theme or time period, but don't know what books to use, I recommend taking a look at my pastebin filled with tons of oxford bibliographies:
It's tedious work combing through these and find the works you want, but maybe try to narrow your focus so small time periods, particular historical events (e.g. russian revolution, thirty years' war) or narrow themes (e.g. medieval peasant clothing or some random thing like that)
Some recommended topics to look into: Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth, Prussia, Scandinavia, Vikings, Anglo-Saxon England, Medieval and Dark Age Ireland, French Revolution, American Revolution, Civil War, the Crusades
Even easier, I've already found a lot of works on particular subjects but I'm too busy to organize what I have and cut down material to a level acceptable to fit on a chart. You can to make charts on this stuff before I eventually get to it! Also don't hesitate to make charts from some of these lists:
Any book recommendations for US meddling in European politics post WW2? Particularly in France?
Robert Sullivan
I posted your first link in the OP. I'm its creator. You can find several world war one bibliographies in there, but making a chart is on my list of things to do.
this one looks relevant Brogi, Alessandro. Confronting America: The Cold War between the United States and the Communists in France and Italy. Chapel Hill: University of North Carolina Press, 2011. >Brogi argues that political opposition in France and Italy forced the United States to reconsider its strategies to combat communism, its image, and what its “liberal capitalist culture and ideology” meant. Conversely, he argues that the resistance to Americanism by Italian and French Communist Parties provided a test for their “legitimacy and existence.”
Isaac Russell
Cool that Brogi book does sound exactly like what I'm looking for. Thanks user!
Christopher Nguyen
made this for all those who took the balkpill
Kevin Murphy
bump
Connor Walker
I want a suggestion on Argentinean history, either in english or spanish. Suggestion on books about other latin american countries would be nice too
Adam Thompson
the balkpill scares me man
Jonathan Reyes
Gimme some Indochina, specifically from about the 17th century up through the current day. I've always had a weird desire to learn more about Burma and Siam specifically.
Also some Venice would be nice. I've read Norwich's and Crowley's but those are more pop history I suppose. Please do not recommend Madden.
James Hall
first few sections of this link have books covering argentina's 20th century history pretty well. pastebin.com/29DjZKJf this is on argentina in the era of mass migration (~1860-1920s) pastebin.com/D52Suy4q heres one on the dictator who ruled argentina before the republic, juan manuel de rosas pastebin.com/Y6rTSpqk this one is on peron and peronism pastebin.com/ezVRHj8g
on venice there's these pastebin.com/uDv4e2F0 pastebin.com/PcEEBim1 if you're looking for another general work try frederic lane's work, which is considered the classic general history. william mcneill's hinge of europe is also another option. there are others listed in the links.
Parker Gomez
>Burma and Siam specifically Neither of those states are Indochina.
Noah Barnes
> Indochina se asian precolonial warfare pastebin.com/MnGTvEWt 20th century french empire pastebin.com/ha2Q1Edz i'll post two more articles on the indochina wars 1945-75 and colonial se asian warfare if you're interested
Andrew Bell
suggest Christian books please.
Caleb Cruz
on the jews and their lies
Daniel Russell
what kind? histories or christian literature?
Jayden Ward
Anyone have a Third Reich chart?
Joshua Gonzalez
Can someone recommend me something like this but about Rome?
Angel Martin
not yet this chart from Veeky Forums has something similar to that greek book.
Carter James
This is great, thanks a lot. And what about further reading on Greece after the book that i've posted.
Levi Ross
greek history is very diverse; is there anything that struck you as particularly interesting that you'd like to learn about when reading?
Lucas Walker
>and what about further reading on Greece after the book that i've posted.
John Reyes
The 2nd peloponessian war, persian wars, Macedonian campaigns.
Will definitely give those a look. Any more general histories too? It just seems like certain regions/countries (Myanmar, SE Asia and Central Asia in general) are hard to find good general histories for.
Juan Campbell
anyone got recs on spain?
Isaac Allen
Recs on the far east?
Tyler Cooper
well if you want central asian stuff look in here, though i'm not sure what kind of survey you're looking for pastebin.com/jhkeMNJU
>It just seems like certain regions/countries (Myanmar, SE Asia and Central Asia in general) are hard to find good general histories for. do you mean books that cover all periods of a country's history?
>late antiquity check out this chart for some stuff then this bibliography on roman late antiquity pastebin.com/vBP1U1rg
Christopher Gutierrez
gotta do some stuff but i'll get to you guys later. tell me what periods or regions you're interested in though so i can narrow my search
Jaxson Stewart
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Evan Nguyen
Anything on how the current politics of the Middle East have risen?
Owen Moore
Anything on Slavs,Jews(from Middle Ages to Present), or the Eastern Front?
Nathaniel Sanchez
are there charts like this for other religions? Hinduism, Islam, Buddhism etc.?
Benjamin Gutierrez
If you want stuff on Jews, read "Rome and Jerusalem: A clash of ancient Civilizations", it's a great understanding of the development of anti Jewish attitudes in Christianity and the European populace thanks to political propaganda of the Emperors
If you want eastern front, I hear Bloodlands is good
Hudson Scott
umayyad caliphate, 'siglo de oro', second republic/civil war/franco
regions, probably most interested in andalucia
Lincoln Ross
Requesting thsi as well
Isaiah Lopez
>do you mean books that cover all periods of a country's history? Yeah or at least a decent period. If it's any indication I generally like good "survey" style books like Iron Kingdom.
Brandon Edwards
I want to get into Chinese literature more. What confucian texts are worth reading? Is it even worth it to read Confucius and Mencius, or should I read an essay from a modern Chinese scholar explaining the tenets of Confucianism and the followers' views. If it's a better idea to read the primary sources, would Anelects be a good starting place?
Adam White
>no Origen
Daniel Harris
Bump
Andrew Stewart
> current politics of the Middle East have risen? like in the last few years or the last two or three decades? I think this bibliography will have the books you want pastebin.com/MLFXmx1x not that i know of. I would make one but problem is i don't know too much about them so i wouldn't know which books to focus on other than intro works. >jews I can get lots of books on jews from those times but I don't know what to recommend. Do you want a general history or something? this bib is on modern jewish history for example pastebin.com/search_self?uq=jew as for eastern front i have this book list on zhukov pastebin.com/902sxX4C since i've reached the pastebin creating limit I've pasted an article on the Eastern Front in the Zhukov article. ctrl f "rvsso" to skip to that part. ctrl f "stal1ngrad" to get to an article on stalin grad; "kvrsk" for books on the battle of kursk.
>Umayyad caliphate pastebin.com/n2w5uFie >spanish golden age pastebin.com/MZa6U2Fa >second republic/civil war/franco spanish civil war pastebin.com/WGqYYVGS ctrl f spain in here for works on franco's regime pastebin.com/DhShAReV stanley payne also has a good book called "The Fall of the Second Republic" which was good. also this one on spanish military history seems to have a good collection of works on the civil war and the previous section also covers the spanish campaigns in morocco in the 1920s by primo de rivera's father who was dictator pastebin.com/0p8PFt0T > andalucia do you the moorish heritage or the history of the province in general?
Ryan Edwards
well i've found a lot of general works on central asia and southeast asia. i'll post tomorrow if you're interested
John Morris
Anything on the spread of Hellenism in Persia, Central Asia and India? Especially material on Hellenism and Buddhism
Also anything on Siddhartha Gautama as a historical figure. The historical and social context in which Buddhism originated and spread would be appreciated.
Aiden Bell
dunno if this is the thread for this but it's worth a shot. Does anyone have "Introduction to Medieval Europe 300-1500"
ISBN: 9780415675871
Isaiah Jackson
thanks lad
>do you the moorish heritage or the history of the province in general?
probably most interested in the cultural mix of the place, the moorish influence and things this has created that are seen as uniquely andalucian (whether it's food, music, writing, whatever)
but those pastebins are more than enough to be looking into anyway
>not that i know of. I would make one but problem is i don't know too much about them so i wouldn't know which books to focus on other than intro works.
i think as a starting point the introductory works would be fine for now, until a more complete guide comes up.
Bentley Morgan
not OP but i'm interested in this as well.
John Fisher
no, sadly not. That's one from 1937, I'm looking for a more recent one by Wim Blockmans and Peter Hoppenbrouwers
Camden Lewis
books about early slavs? especially south ones...
Landon Nelson
amazing thread, thanks anons
how do you find out all this stuff though?
Dylan Bell
P. Stephenson, Byzantium's Balkan Frontier: A Political Study of the Northern Balkans, 900-1204 (2000). A.P. Vlasto, The entry of the Slavs into Christendom (1970) J. Shepard, Emergent Elites and Byzantium in the Balkans and East-Central Europe (2011) J.V.A. Fine, Jr., The Early Medieval Balkans (1983) F. Curta, Southeastern Europe in the Middle Ages, 500-1250 (2006) J. Ferluga, Byzantium on the Balkans (1976) C. Frazee, ‘The Balkans between Rome and Constantinople in the early Middle Ages 600–900’, Balkan Studies 2 (1993), 213–28 F. Curta and R. Kovalev (eds.), The Other Europe in the Middle Ages: Avars, Bulgars, Khazars, and Cumans (2008) F. Dvornik, Byzantine Missions among the Slavs: SS Constantine-Cyril and Methodius (1970) P. Barford, The Early Slavs: Culture and Society in Early Medieval Europe (2001) F. Curta, The Making of the Slavs: History and Archaeology of the Lower Danube Region, c. 500–700 (2001) I. Supicic (ed.), Croatia in the Early Middle Ages: A Cultural Survey (1999) M. Innes, ‘Franks and Slavs c. 700–c. 1000: the problem of European expansion before the millennium’, Early Medieval Europe 6 (1997), 201–16
Christopher Adams
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Camden Anderson
pic related for hellenism
i've also found this Wall, Irwin M. The United States and the Making of Postwar France, 1945–1954. Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press, 1991. DOI: 10.1017/CBO9780511523779
i can't this weekend, but what would you like to see on it, though?
Jeremiah Scott
Thanks a lot
Nathaniel Moore
I thought I would share what I've read so far.
>The Tragedy of the Templars: The Rise and Fall of the Crusader States by Michael Haag This book was alright. I learned a good bit about the crusades and the Templars. It could've been better if it focused more on the Templars though.
>Carthage Must Be Destroyed by Richard Miles A great book that gives an overview of the Punic Wars and the relations between the Roman and Carthaginian empires.
>Yugoslavia: Death of a Nation So much shit happens in this book. It's wonderful. It's kinda like a gigantic convoluted drama with tons of characters. I found myself wanting multiple people on opposing sides of the wars to succeed. The main problem with this book is that it doesn't really catch you up to the modern day situation in the Balkans. Also, it's completely unsympathetic to the Serbs. I'm not sure if this is justified or not. Some Serbs on Veeky Forums have claimed they were justified in the wars. Anyways, it was a great book.
>The Cold War: A New History by John Lewis Gaddis Probably the most well written book on history that I've read so far. It gives an overview of the entire Cold War. I loved reading this book. Instead of being a completely chronological account of the "war", it went through different areas of the war, but still remained mostly chronological. I wish the book spent more time on the ending of the war though. I felt like more could be said about Gorbachev, Reagan, and Thatcher. It just felt a little rushed towards the end. Also, I'm not sure if this is a bad thing or not, but the author is not sympathetic towards communism at all. That's probably justified, but I can understand that some more open minded people might be taken aback by that.
Anthony Sanchez
I'm back for my threadly shilling of stokesbury's short histories of the world wars. They're great one-volume primers on the conflicts and are written in a lucid, narrative style.
Christian Walker
Books that cover American History in depth, including important law cases and events/signings that are not heavily covered in American schools?
Zachary Sullivan
Any recommendations on pre-Roman Spain?
Aiden Taylor
check celts link here books on preroman spain in english are hard to find but some of the books covering roman spain also talk about preroman spain
Carter Johnson
Can anyone recommend a book on the wars of roses?
Cooper Clark
>including important law cases There are a metric fuckton of books on SCOTUS cases and how they affect constitutional interpretation.
Brandon Wilson
He Ctrl+Fs university book lists and academic bibliographies because he's likely an actual Veeky Forums major instead of some pophistory fuckwit. If it's the user I'm thinking of, he literally just Ctrl+Fs Oxford bibliographies.
Christian James
4u
Christian Watson
Thanks
Nathaniel Sanchez
Do you know of any general books on it? These seem to be kinda "niche"
Aiden Walker
carpenter, the second hicks book and the first pollard book are all general works...
Benjamin Thomas
some of these books cost like up to 50$ on amazon. Any advice user? im a poorfag
Charles Turner
ILL or pedo them if available
Jace Harris
bookzz.org or libgen.io I find maybe between 50%-80% of the time, depending on the subject, I can find the books I want free on these two sites. bookzz is simply a mirror of libgen but i find its interface nicer to use. However, if you see a book deleted on bookzz by a publisher, libgen will still have a working download.
If any of the titles has a DOI code you can copy that code into sci-hub.cc and you'll be able to get free access to the ebook behind some university paywall the site uses.
Luis Murphy
second pollard book* i mean
Sebastian Barnes
Any good recs on post-Civil War through Pre-World War I America? Overviews/surveys, biographies, etc. I've especially liked the "high political" stuff of the era and after reading Peskin's Garfield biography a year or so back I've been wanting to learn more. Same with the settlement/expansion of the west. Hopefully something fairly objective instead of "DA EBUL CAPITALISTS AND ROBBER BARONS AND POOR INJUNS" or whatever since that's all I can seem to find.
Adam Jackson
any recommendations on Christopher Columbus, Hernan Cortes, and the conquest of the Aztecs?
Henry VIII? Cromwell? The English Civil War?
I'm no historian but I like reading history books as a hobby, particularly overviews.
Currently waiting for these to arrive:
>The Habsburg Empire: A New History by Pieter M. Judson
>The Glorious Cause: The American Revolution, 1763-1789 (Oxford History of the United States) by Robert Middlekauff
>The Making of Modern Japan by Marius B. Jansen
>The Pursuit of Glory: The Five Revolutions that Made Modern Europe: 1648-1815 (The Penguin History of Europe) by Tim Blanning
I've been reading Clark's The Sleepwalkers, which has been an excellent read.
Asher Mitchell
Didn't I show you which bibliographies to look at last thread...? If you want some more personal recommendations, Richard Rex's "The Tudors" is a short nicely written introduction on that dynasty. It has the advantage of giving a coherent view of England over the 16th century. John Guy's Tudor England is a general survey but you might get drowned in the details. Alan Smith's "The Emergence of a Nation State, 1529-1660" I found it a better laid out survey. It also has the advantage of covering from Henry VIII all the way to Cromwell. Guy's survey has the advantage of starting from Henry VII's victory at Bosworth 1485 through Elizabeth I's reign, with constant reference to the Wars of the Roses and the long-term that it set in motion before the Tudors (e.g. emasculation of the nobility through attainder, enforcement of feudal dues, and such). Anyway, if you're not the guy from the last thread, I can just give you the bibliographies you need for these subjects.
Jack Reyes
I also recommend reading "What Hath God Wrought," which covers the period between the 1810s and the 1850s. I liked Glorious Cause and Battlecry of Freedom but the book above gives fantastic coverage of a period that's relatively neglected in US history.