Catholics don't worship the Virgin Mary as a go-

All the while the catholic "church"discards the Holy Bible and writes its own rubbish as a mockery of God.

With indulgences sure but apocrypha weren't written by Cathlicks.

According to your pope, gays muslems and athiests can go to heaven, who is right?
The pope or god?

How?
She is based off Tonantzin.
The Earth Goddess Mother of the Nahua people.
Go to southern Mexico or Guatemala, it's pretty clear the savages there worship her as a god.

have you idiots read the apocyrpha. the reason they threw it out is they are stories from other polytheistic traditions just with jesus written in. There's even the hercules story where he as a child accidentally kills his teacher just with child jesus accidently commiting murder with his jesus powers.
Catholicism or the early church as it was called at the time just shamelessly appropriated the oral and written traditions of the people that they were also appropriating into their ethos.
Grow up, its all lies and they didn't even do a good job covering up their blatant plagiarism
Granted they tried by burning enough knowledge that the fucking dark ages happened

Not catholic but shouldn't that question be for God to decide and not the church. I mean it's not like you can always tell who is gay and who doesn't believe anyway. The best the church can do is advise you on what to do. But with prophetical epileptics coming into the fray, archaic Semitic law and spurious writings are given priority while the gospel is thrown out the window.

The apocrypha that isn't included in Protestant bibles isn't the Gnostic New Testament apocrypha but a few prophetic writings that are included in the OT. Luther didn't even consider Revelation and a few other NT books as scripture because the early church didn't either.

>Tonantzin
Actually its based off Coatlicue, mother of Huitzilopotztli, Sun and Eagle, patron god of the Mexica

>The """""Mary""""" of Catholicism is nothing but the Pagan fertility goddess.
>implying that's a bad thing

>Varg near eastern polytheism is false but my Euro paganism is true Vikernes.

I think we all need a lot more Pagan Fertility Goddesses than we do beardjew rabblerouser.

>ignoring that fertility goddesses are the biggest rabble-arousers in mythology.

At least fertility goddesses are real.

Was Innana invented by a time-traveling SJW ?

They got the concept of the Immaculate Conception from the Quran.

Bait Tier: 0/8

quran.com/3/36

the definition of Immaculate Conception is in this ayat, hundreds of years before catholics supported it (st thomas aquinas and st bernard were opposed to it) and the pope proclaimed it ex cathedra. it's an innovation borrowed from muslims found nowhere in the fathers used to square the circle of the sinlessness of mary with the western view of original sin.

Matthew 1:18-25

It clearly says Jesus was conceived of the Holy Spirit.

Nice try though 1/8 bait for making me reply.

the immaculate conception has nothing to do with jesus you dolt it has to do with the conception of mary learn your own religion

Oh wait I just looked into that.

Yeah it's retarded I agree.

Although actually famalam the concept of Mary's Immaculate Conception was carried from Byzantium and first recorded to be discussed by St. Gregory Nazianzen in the 300's.

What time is your source from?

The left side is just edgetards

You're straight wrong.
The immaculate conception refers to the birth of christ without sex on the part of the mother or afterbirth both of which are recorded.

No actually it has to do with Mary being born without original sin and herself being a miracle.

Good troll
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immaculate_Conception
You are clearly an autist,The immaculate conception refers to the conception of mary by the holy spirit with jesus.
That is it.
Mary was born of men and woman just like everyone but adam, which is mentioned by the church fathers such as paul.
Read a book.

Why shouldn't gays be able to get into heaven? Homosexuality in itself isn't a sin, sodomy/fornication is.

What the Pope said about atheists was misunderstood. He said atheists that do good will ultimately come to God, in which case, why would they not get in?

Of course some Protestants don't believe people are capable of even attempting to seek God in such a way but that doesn't change what he said.

Wew lad. Wew.

You didn't even read the article you posted as your evidence. Wew take it down a notch and listen.

FROM YOUR POSTED ARTICLE

>The Immaculate Conception, according to the teaching of the Catholic Church, is the conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary free from original sin by virtue of the foreseen merits of her son Jesus Christ. The Catholic Church teaches that Mary was conceived by normal biological means in the womb of her mother, Saint Anne, but God acted upon her soul, keeping it "immaculate".

Paul was an apostle, not a church father

>normal biological means
Done here.

It's talking about the conception of Mary, not of Christ.

Your autism is off da charts

You are still lost in a lot of confusion. Let go of your life, and your way of thinking

I'm not confused at all.

There is absolutely zero reason a gay person who abstains from carrying out inappropriate sexual desires (like everyone else, there's no difference between straight fornication and gay fornication) and otherwise repents and lives as Christ said, there's no reason they should go to Hell.

An atheist that comes to God is the same way.

It sounds like you're the one who's confused, and you don't know your religion very well. Typical of Protestants I've found.

t. Not even Catholic

There are gay parisheners in Roman Catholicism, even lay people.

As long as they don't act on their lust and remain free from sin they may receive communion and all the other rites of the Church.

You speak very foolishly,a sinner is not saved if they do not walk away from satan, the only way to walk away from satan is to walk away from sin.

Except that's exactly the same thing I just said (in a less autistic way).

You really need to listen to someone other than Pastor Cletus.

She's clearly an archetypal mother goddess whether they actively worship(adoration, not hyper dulia) her or not.

People like you have false doctrine.

When you believe in Jesus...you are building the Rock as a foundation INTO your life. Jesus is the rock.

You CANNOT build on the foundation with sodomy Because on Judgement day all will be revealed with fire.

Which is another name for her, smart one.

Tonantzin just means Our Holy Mother in Nahuatl.

You are a fool. The Feast of the Immaculate Conception is celebrated early December every year by Catholics worldwide. It's the solemnity of Mary being conceived without sin so that the Lord may be born unto a temple that is without the stain of original sin.

This is pretty basic stuff for Catholics, and one of the major holy days of the church.

Where in the bible does it say that? See this is the difference, Christians believe in Christ and his teachings in the bible. Not what the pope says.

Blasphemy.

This.

Homosexuality is a sin, but so is theft, murder, and a whole host of other topics. Everyone has temptations towards something, acting on those temptations is what causes you to sin. So even though you have an attraction to the same sex, so long as you don't act upon those attractions, you're doing fine.

Or do you assume a person can't change their life and seek forgiveness in the Lord after they've had a failing? Because if you go that route, every single person on this earth is likely to be damned.

>we know Jesus never sinned himself, but if he was born like a human then he would inherit original sin from Mary
>so let's just say Mary was born without original sin
If Mary could be born without inheriting original sin from her parents, why couldn't Jesus be born without inheriting original sin from Mary?

...

Why is that too bad?

Fun fact: the Vatican owns a satellite named "LUCIFER".

Lucifer, the light-bearer, aka the bringer of "knowledge" of good and evil, aka Satan the deceiver, accuser and rebel against God.

The facts are that everything Babylon did, Catholics do. Everything from Ishtar to Saturnalia to Lent to confessionals to their eucharist.

There is nothing original in Roman Catholicism; it is literally Mystery Babylon.

I don't think it was so Jesus could be born without original sin that Mary had to, but rather a sinful women should not be the one to bear the savior of the world.

It does not. It is a pagan belief that the "mother of God" was born sinless.

The Immaculate Conception means that Mary, whose conception was brought about the normal way, was conceived without original sin or its stain—that’s what "immaculate" means: without stain. The essence of original sin consists in the deprivation of sanctifying grace, and its stain is a corrupt nature. Mary was preserved from these defects by God’s grace; from the first instant of her existence she was in the state of sanctifying grace and was free from the corrupt nature original sin brings.

catholic.com/tract/immaculate-conception-and-assumption

They also own four computer clustered named after the Archangels. It's relatively standard practice for the Vatican to name its scientific pursuits in that way.

People don't go to hell for what they do; they go to hell if they never regain the life that Adam lost within him. They go to hell if they are never born again in the Spirit.

Being tempted is not sin; however, all sins were paid for, in full, on the cross.

Now it's not a matter of the forgiveness of sins, but in the belief that Jesus is God, risen from the dead.

end-times-prophecy.org/the-whore-of-babylon.html
remnantofgod.org/666-CHAR.htm

Catholics are pure evil.

Those theories come from protestants in the 19th century and are widely rejected by historians of all faiths today.

>but rather a sinful women should not be the one to bear the savior of the world.
That attitude is out of line with just about every single biblical figure outside from Jesus, as they were almost all massive sinners or otherwise flawed individuals. Of course Mary sinned, she was a person, not a goddess.

Right?

Which only Jesus has done. Which Paul, the greatest apostle, lamented he could not do.

So now what's your plan?

Tell him that, I already understand it.

Yes, but it goes further than that. We can trace the archetype to Babylon, to Queen Semiramis, the "Queen of Heaven" the bible condemns.

You are a fool.

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.

Not

For all have sinned except for Mary Mother of God and Queen of Heaven, and come short of the glory of God.

Because sin is inherited through the father, and Jesus' father, the Father, had no sin. He is God. Therefore he is not "missing the mark" of being like God.

It's a telescope in Arizona they timeshare with to look for ETs to convert to Catholicism. L.U.C.I.F.E.R. was changed to L.U.C.Y., but without any meaningful distinction.

And yet one did.

People can reject facts all day long if they choose.

Jeremiah 7:18 The children gather wood, the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead dough, to make cakes for the queen of heaven; and they pour out drink offerings to other gods, that they may provoke Me to anger.

This is before Mary was born.

This worship of the Queen of Heaven provokes God to anger.

How can anyone read the book of Revelation and still be a catholic?

Revelation literally points the Vatican as being the Antichrist beast system, Satan's counterfeit church to combat Christ's real church (scattered pockets of believers like the Waldensians, Albigenses, Bulgars, Paulicians, etc)

It was illegal to own the Bible in the vernacular, it was discouraged to read the Bible in the middle ages because the Papacy knew if people read it for themselves they could see how unbiblical the RCC is.

Like Jesus said: "Get out of her.."

>naming a bringer of knowledge after a guy who gave humanity the fruit of knowledge
Woah

>People don't go to hell for what they do; they go to hell if they never regain the life that Adam lost within him. They go to hell if they are never born again in the Spirit.
>Being tempted is not sin; however, all sins were paid for, in full, on the cross.
>Now it's not a matter of the forgiveness of sins, but in the belief that Jesus is God, risen from the dead.

satan trips check'd

Right, so then there is no need to invent the Immaculate Conception in the first place other than to deify Mary. I'm not necessarily even against it, as Catholic and Anglican pseudo-polytheism is much more culturally rich than almost all forms of Protestantism, but call a spade a spade.

Now you know why they heavily discourage the reading of the bible, to the extent where they burned bibles in the past, and they really do not study the Revelation at all.

They tell their people that it takes Catholic experts in their Magisterium to properly tell them what the bible means.

Amen on the "Get out of her".

Nothing wrong with deification of a human t.bh
t. Muslim who deifies Ali

All sins were paid for, yes, but you still have to ask for forgiveness. The Lord knows what you need and waits for you to ask for His help. This, I think, is the thing that people find misleading about the nature of divine forgiveness from a Catholic perspective.
Faith vs works is s similar issue. Both Catholics and protestants believe in sola fide, it's just that the Catholic stance emphasizes the fact that a person with true and strong faith will do good works for his fellow man, because its the right thing to do. Everyone acknowledges that you cannot work your way to heaven.

satan didn't give us jack shit. He lied to Eve, stole the earth from Adam, and murdered the human race. He is a liar, a thief, and a murderer, from the beginning.

The knowledge of good and evil was imparted by eating the fruit God made, not from anything the devil did.

The catholics openly worship satan in the Vatican. They call him the "superforce".

And it's not as though Mary was deified from the get-go. She was not deified until the 19th century.

>He lied to Eve, stole the earth from Adam

The snake is not Satan.

>Slaughtering heretics is wrong
If you sin you get your punishment yo retarded proddy

youtube.com/watch?v=ROM5EpCQUlg

youtube.com/watch?v=J-AsVxTrgWk

Daily reminder that the Bible was written in Aramaic, Hebrew and Greek.
Latin is the language of the devil.

There is no understanding of the forgiveness of sins from a Catholic viewpoint. They mindlessly and continuously ask for forgiveness for sins that were forgiven at the cross.

The bible says that the wages of sin is death.

The Catholic church says that the wages of sin is saying you're sorry and mindlessly repeating some chanted prayers to Mary.

The Catholic church is not a Christian institution because it does not believe Christianity is enough. So it continuously adds things which actually detract from the simplicity of the gospel, and denies the uniqueness and divinity of Jesus Christ. They have it as

Jesus plus Mary
Faith plus works
Bible plus tradition

etc.

And in their adding to the truth, they have created lies by which a billion people or more will have Jesus tell them to their face I DO NOT KNOW YOU.

Bible disagrees with you, as usual.

Revelation 12:9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Your bloody church will receive blood to drink.

The 7 Church Ages, from God's point of view:

1. Ephesus: 12 years 70 to 82 A.D. "The Era of Transition"
(also known as the Apostolic era)

2. Smyrna: 360 years 82 to 442 A.D. "The Era of Persecution"
(Christians getting persecuted by the state)

3. Pergamum: 360 years 442 to 802 A.D. "The Era of Accommodation"
(Constantine marrying Christianity to the world)

4. Thyatira: 360 years 802 to 1162 A.D. "The Era of Compromise"
(Paganism creeping and mixing into the Church)

5. Sardis: 360 years 1162 to 1522 A.D. "The Era of Corruption"
(Roman Catholic paganism at its height, true believers are persecuted)

6. Philadelphia: 360 years 1522 to 1882 A.D. "The Era of Revival"
(Protestant Reformation brings a revival of the true faith, missionaries spread Gospel to the ends of the world)

7. Laodicea: 144 years 1882 to 2026 A.D. "The Era of Degeneration"
(Modern lukewarm, liberal and half-baked Christianity)

Go suck some muslim cock, you proddies seem to like it

Vatican created Islam:
youtube.com/watch?v=ll0otULYzms

>Catholics kill Christians in Europe
>Muslims kill Christians in MENA

Satan's pincer attack against Christ's church.

Asherah worship was common among the worshipers of Yaweh until the Prophet Jeremiah deliberately left it out of the written Torah. It's just political change, nothing divinely mandated about it.

The Bible also says that you must ask to receive. That was my whole point, the church doesn't add anything to the original teaching, it just gets specific.

People who have faith do good deeds.
Mary prays for us and Jesus usually listened to her requests in the Bible (for example: water into wine when, "my time has not yet come.")
The Bible was compiled according to ancient tradition, inspired by the Holy Spirit, and they do not contradict each other.

I hope you understand what I mean.

Atheist pseudo-history.

Your theory has already been debunked by the InspiringPhilosophy channel.

>Catholics defeat the turkish invasions of Europe on Vienna and Lepanto
>Proddies sperg out and try to undermine catholic nations
You deserved every persecution and still do

But you created Islam in the first place, catholicuck.

If that were true, I'm sure the Church would feel real sorry for helping to inspire a movement that converted a pagan civilization into worshiping the Abrahamic god.

nigger, he's not going to change his cross. Why can't you fucking accept it?

Looks like a vulva desu famalam

I don't think he even read what the other guy posted.

>worshiping the Abrahamic god
The black stone is not the God of Abraham
Muslims are more merciful to Christians than papists are