Attention newbies and aspiring coiners!

As we have a extreme amount of newbies that do not know what they actually do, I thought I write something for them. Way too many people lose money because they miss out the basics. Yes, you are in for a huge wall of text. Feel free to ask questions, as long as I am online.

So you are into cryptos. You set up your account on bittrex, bought some BTC on coinbase and you are ready to go, right?

Wrong. Trying to get profits now is just like trying a slot machine with a high chance of winning. And trying to daytrade transfers almost certainly your money in the wallet of someone else.
First you need the basics:
investopedia.com/terms/t/technicalanalysis.asp
investopedia.com/university/technical/

Read it, understand it, try it. This is what will indeed make you money.
I don’t want to overly shill technical analysis, but this helps you to analyze and understand the history of the graph better. They often confirm themselves through their broad usage alone. And it all boils down to probabilities and anticipation - not predicting the future, because this is impossible.
Again: technical analysis is more like a self-fulfilling prophecy because many people use it, it is not a physical law.

Then, you need to consider news & rumors. Buy the rumors, sell the news.
It sounds easy, but sometimes it is a bit harder to distinguish, as many things are bullshit and the devil is in the details. Let’s say a fan of a coin uses the technology of said coin on a counter-strike server, so the players can get coins for every headshot. Someone might overly shill the coin with "CS!!! PARTNERSHIP WITH VALVE!!! PRICE WILL MOON!!!!". This could trigger a newbie to buy at the new all-time high price (believing it rises even higher), which the newbie then has to hold for a long time or sell at a loss.

After that, it is just a matter of practice. It all comes down to probabilities, being able to cut losses, evaluate information and not getting emotional.

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Then you need a set of rules, e.g.:
- set stop-limits every! fucking! time! you buy into something
- don’t buy at or near a new ATH (rarely goes well)
- always have a valid reason for buying (no, "Veeky Forums said it’s going to moon" is not valid)
- never rely on single platforms alone - reddit, twitter, bitcoin forums, Veeky Forums, blogs, news-sites etc. are very good if used together (stay away from zerohedge tough – tinfoil alert)
- never focus on a single coin alone; diversify in at least 2 time horizons (1-7 days short (ST); 2-4 weeks mid (MT); 1-12 months long term (LT)) & reevaluate them accordingly
- never!!! daytrade with more than 5% of your funds per week/month, if you are not consistently in the greens with these 5%
- if you are in a ugly situation (like having >50% of your stuff being stuck) and NOT in dire need of money: HOLD THE COIN! The market is exploding and the burst of the bubble is months if not years away, you will at least get your money back, if you did not buy useless coins on small platforms

IMPORTANT!
Stop-limit-orders are not a joke, they can literally save your ass! Set one at e.g. 95% of your entrance point/adjusted to the current price, when you are away from the computer or watching a movie etc. Yes, sometimes it is only a short bounce and you lose some money or profit, while the value goes bonkers afterwards - but most the time, it just prevents you from heavy losses or missing opportunities to sell your stuff at a good price, because you were sleeping/shitting/suffocating on a Cheeto while wanking on your possible profits while selling on a ATH.

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Now you could start to trade with e.g. an excel-sheet, where you insert the buy of a coin and a sale when you sold it. This is called "paper trading" and for just getting a feeling for it. Do this for some days, while you are learning the basics of analysis. Then start with small amounts - 10 dollar, maybe 50. If you are comfortable with that, pimp it up with stocking it up with the same amount per week or month. If you lose some, it won’t hurt and if you gain some, it is a sense of achievement.

Keep in mind that there are days where you look at the charts and say "Yay, nothing to do here but to adjust my stop limits", as everything is green and fine. And then there are days, where you see all your stop limit orders triggered, because everything is falling into abysmal depths.
Both days are cool, because the first one nets you profit and the second one cuts short your losses or triggered taking profits to enter again. Because remember: "if there is blood in the streets, it is good to buy". This say was true when Baron Rothschild made a fortune in the 18th century (I am not implying something anti-Semitic here, he indeed said and did this).

Start to think this way and you get a boner when thinking about crashes.

Also, remember that the meme "HODL" or "hold your coin" only applies to people that bought at a low price and are in the green even in the middle of a crash and the ones that bought at a high price and did not place a stop limit order. The first ones know that the price will rise further & holding the coin will enlarge their gains later. The second ones know that the high times will come back and then they can keep their losses small by holding the coin until then. There is little to no reason to see a coin crashing and not cutting your losses/grabbing the profit so far and buying back in, when the foothold is confirmed.

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Let’s get to some general security measures:
On every exchange, take your mobile and enable 2FA (two factor authentification). That way, when you want to withdraw cryptos, you need to enter a code from your mobile which changes every minute. So even if your PC somehow gets compromised, an attacker is not able to steal your money, except when he also steals your mobile. 2FA is the easiest and most efficient way to secure your stuff on an exchange. There is absolutely no reason to go without it and it should be the first thing to do after registering at an exchange.

Also, keep your computer safe. Better not watch that pron from the dubious website on the same computer you do cryptos with. Or at least use a virtual machine for this and be much much safer. It is easier than you might think of. I am a finance guy and even I learned it with some tutorials from YouTube.

If you start to store coins on your own wallet for holding them long term, make sure you have offline backups. And a backup from the backup. Store them in at least 3 different SAVE locations (e.g. one at your parents’ house, one in the cellar behind a brick and one at bank in a locker etc.). Be aware of the dangers of doing this with HDDs, as they less resistant to damage than a stick.

Be paranoid. You are handling money and the number of scammers is huge. You can discuss and talk with other people on the internet like you always do, but never give out personal information (except your wallet address - besides someone sending you coins, nothing can happen). The "send me your coins, I double them"-scam is nothing but bullshit, but people still fall for it more often than you might think. Be aware of these things, even with dealing with people you write often with. Social engineering is an art for itself, which is mastered by many scammers and conman, just to trick you out of your stuff without you realizing it being bad.

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Speaking of crazy things – here are the two most important rules of all:

NEVER EVER trade with money which you cannot afford to lose. 100k of a shitcoin won’t make the landlord happy, even if it might spike up again and get you dem delicious gains, which could lead to homelessness faster than you can imagine. This proves even more relevant when it comes to food - a bag full of coins is not eatable.

NEVER EVER lend money from relatives, friends, colleagues, banks, neighbors or the mafia just for trading cryptos. If you lose money, you not only put them in financial danger but also the (hopefully lovely) relationship between you and them can get strained.
No money on the world is it worth to risk or even strain your relationship to a loved one. Especially when we talk about the mob, you are in for a world of hurts, if you want to tell them that "THE COINS WILL BE WORTH MORE NEXT WEEK, I SWEAR!!!" when they come to collect their money. They are pretty old fashioned, I guess.

And finally: don’t be fooled by thinking you can get rich fast and lay off for the rest of your life. "Lamboland" and "moon" are memes to entertain, they are not an accurate description what happens when you only trade for a week or so. You CAN get lucky and get x20 or x100 your investment in a few days. But you also need to consider, that you can very much lose everything, especially when you are new. That’s why "only trade what you can afford to lose" is such a golden rule. Running for fast pump & dumps will make you the bagholder for organized groups and worthless coins sooner or later. This is a gamble you can win or lose in a couple of hours. Researching and investing is more relaxing and also a secure possibility of multiplying your capital over days, weeks or months, depending on the coin. The number of people getting money by researching the coins however is a multitude higher than the number of people getting rich on p&d-actions.

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Finally let’s give you a practical homework, if you are still interested: try applying the stuff you learned with litecoin.
Check how the upcoming fork of bitcoin might affect the price of litecoin.
How did the prices react to past crashes of bitcoin?
What major announcements are made that might affect or affected the price?
Check twitter how the general air about litecoin is – calm, heated with discussions or confident?
What do specialized bloggers say about it being under- or overvalued?
Is there something like a trendline?

Draw your own conclusions. Or how it is called: DYOR - do your own research. Now you have the tools to do that. It might be hard, but in the long run it pays out, as there are too many people out there that see cryptos as a slot machine and not as a craftsmanship.

In 2-3 weeks, if you got some gains - maybe drop me a beer in form of Litecoin, if this posts and/or the answers I give you in this thread helped you somehow to get profit out of your investments:

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Or even better: treat yourself for a new game on steam.
Or take your dog to a walk in the park and get some icecream.
Or how about going to the cinema for the movie you wanted to see for real, not pirated in bad quality on the internet. Take your friends with your or make some there.
There are many things out there to see and enjoy - dont look at charts all day and dream about "lambos" or "moons". It’s the small cash outs that make it worthwhile to do, if you are not required to life from it.

Disclaimer:
Even if you have read this wall of text carefully and follow the advice of experienced traders, you still can lose money. I am not accountable for any losses you encounter while trading crypto currencies. Trading can lead to addicting gambling behavior, for which you should consult a professional, please – otherwise you might lose everything.

Will try to answer as many questions as possible, regardless of them being advanced or basic.
Former threads:
Many question were already answered, so please dont be offended if I reply with a copy-paste from a former thread.

You can also follow me on twitter, if you want to know when I open these threads as well as a occasional advice on a coin or two.
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good post user

sharing this with my friend i just got into mining GRC

>set stop-limits every! fucking! time! you buy into something

Can you say more about entry points? I put in a buy order for LTC yesterday at $43 with a stop-limit of $41, but ended up losing money when it dropped from about $47 to $39.5 very quickly then back again to $45 or so. I figured I should have not done that during a panic sell because setting a stop loss of 95% presumes that during a panic sell I can predict the bottom to within 5% (which I can't, and only realized afterwards).

On the other hand during gradual downward trends I can see this strategy working well, how do you identify when it's time to enter?

For entry points, I use a mixture of indicators, which is hard to generalize.

But I will try to explain a method which is easy to use for everyone:
First look into support levels. Always be a bit jumpy on them - they are a two sided blade, as a breaking support can also mean that the price will crash and a former support will become a resistance afterwards. If the support is strong and holding however, it is a indicator for a good point to buy in. 11k on BTS right now is a good example - a sellorder of ~50 BTS "pushed" the price below its former level, but it is still holding (also an indicator for a possible whale eating cheap bags before BTS going up to 12k). Thats why e.g. also DGB has a good entry point now for long term investments, as their 1k support are not very likely to be broken.

Then you analyze if there is a trend - the famed "triangles". They serve a similar role like support lines, but I generally rank them a bit lower. A meeting between positive trend and support lines can be a indicator for a good re-entry after the price stabilized after a pump (assuming it is not a pnd-action).

After this, look into the MACD. If it points to the end of a bearish tendency, the time for a good entry point may be reached. If not, the price also could work its way sideways, offering at least low profits/losses when you exit.

To prevent grabbing falling knifes in a dump, I work with fibonacci retracements as well as a healthy caution. I usually wait until a floor is found and established until I buy back in.

Also the bollinger band can be used as an additional indicator.

>Also the bollinger band can be used as an additional indicator.

Addition: when the price reached the bottom of the band, it is also a positive indicator for a good entry point.


Also, when you expect huge volatility in the next hours and are actually on the computer, you also could try to not set stop limits and keep an eye on the price. If the price is jumping around too much, a stop limit is always hard to place.

thank you Veeky Forumsbro for your wisdom.

It seems that on almost every coin there are sellings near each 0.10 point increase. Do you use them as exit points? Also how do you calculate percentages?

>It seems that on almost every coin there are sellings near each 0.10 point increase.

I dont quite grasp what you want to tell me (sorry, I am not native in english). Could you explain this a bit different?

>Also how do you calculate percentages?
Just roughly estimations in my head. I dont use a calculator to set the stop limits exactly at x%, if it is that what you ment.

good work will read it all

for % you can easy use the segment tool in most charts it will tell you % difference on the chart.

Technical analysis is garbage.

Drawing lines based on historical prices.

Read the news and trade based off of it.

Thank you for all those tips, OP.
Really useful to a newbie like me, now all I need is some jumpstarting crypto. :c

BTC 19cxLhwoVYX33ndLsyqXGYKDyCeVhQCfBw
ETH
0xf99d75cf9bab9753a1442a36d4e735cec7e892aa
ANS
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i mean that people set sell orders at every significant price point(if coin trades between 0.001-0.002 then there are sells at 0.002 and a dump), do you use these for daytrading? Couldn't u theoretically keep repeating this pattern along with the orders?

If you're still around tonight when I'm off my shift as a wagecuck I'll have some questions for you OP, thanks for the thread(s) and info.

What exchange should I trade on starting out?

I rarely daytrade, so my knowledge is not as deep as in "normal" trading.

But yes, if you have a trend channel, you can abuse it this way. However, you need to consider that there are many people who look out for them and there are way more relevant factors for daytrading than just these trends and supports. You need to take into the time and day you are trading, the circumstances etc. - otherwise, daytrading is like playing roulette (except you have info on a upcomming event like the ANS-conference tomorrow and utilize this to make a fast profit).

>What exchange should I trade on starting out?
Well, this is a question everyone answers somewhat different. I saw something on reddit which summed some things up quite well, if you want to decide on which exchange you want to trade most:
reddit.com/user/drewshaver/comments/6dxdh7/review_of_5_cryptocurrency_exchanges_poloniex/
I like the interface of Poloniex more but love the chart in bittrex more than the one in polo. It is a personal preference, but I recommend every newbie polo and bittrex first. Also I never had any problems with coinbase, but I never bought BTC/LTC/ETH during stressed times, so I never ran into troubles.

>If you're still around tonight when I'm off my shift as a wagecuck I'll have some questions for you OP, thanks for the thread(s) and info.
Noted. Otherwise drop me a message in twitter (twitter.com/Bizcryptanon) if I am already off to bed. Or maybe another user can answer it in the meanwhile.

Do you think ANS will actually rise after the conference? Most people seem to think that shit always goes down after news & conferences.

Does anyone know if there's a way to make the candlesticks fatter on poloniex like the ones on bittrex?

>Do you think ANS will actually rise after the conference?

I personally would say that ANS is something you need to trade in 2 dimensions: short term or long term. If you havent sold ANS already or bought at a high price, I would strongly consider holding it, as you have missed the optimal time to sell it for the most profitable price.

It is not a "second ETH" as some people try to claim, please dont fall for this shit. It wont rise up to $400 at least not in the next months or after the conference. I wont complain when it happens, but I doubt it strongly.

I however think ANS will be a kind of a "faster" version than DGB. As DGB will rise above its peak value within the next year, you can expect to get ANS at around $20 in 2 months or so.

However, you can kick everything of the above in the bucket, if the chinese government picks it up. Then you can be sure that ETH and BTC will come second after ANS. Nothing points in this direction so far, tough.

>Does anyone know if there's a way to make the candlesticks fatter on poloniex like the ones on bittrex?

Only via shortening the time frame of the area you view and widening the length of the candle. Charting on polo is horrible, compared to bittrex.

Btw:
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sCKqzeykfFZ1UPBYDU7TwJPYb0bgAiZNnAxE1SxwqAI/pubhtml

If you are sick and tired with the small window of bittrex.

Dude, thank you so much! I fucking HATE trex's charts

Thanks. I decided to go with bittrex and this is really helpful

what exactly means to short a coin ?

>what exactly means to short a coin ?

"Shorting" = selling
"Long" = buying

There is actually a difference between "going short" and "selling", but this is not important for trading cryptos, meaning that you can use it as a synonym.

Offline for an hour or two.
If the thread is achived by then, I will start a new one.
Feel free to ask questions, I will answer them afterwards.

I have a RX 470. Should I bother mining at all?

If so, I was considering getting into either ETH or zcash. Would you agree with either of these two choices?

same question here.

Programmer here studying up on distributed apps and the blockchain.

Am I too late to create a scam coin and run off with hundreds of thousands of dollars?

Any interest in starting some sort of slack or discord or telegram group?

not some scammy spam one, but a group for legit discussion amongst legit traders?