Schrodinger's Cat

>Keep seeing Schrodinger's cat get thrown around in anime and TV like it's some grand concept
>It's literally just, "If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to here it, does it make a sound?" stated in a contrived manner
Why the fuck do people latch on to this thought experiment? Is there something I'm missing?

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Its something to do with uncertanty of measurement in subatomic physics due to the observer altering the outcome. It can relate to predicting the position/state of electrons in space. The cat represents the electron. You are the observer. The box is uncertainty. You don't know if the cat is alive or dead (state 1 or state 2). You unbox it to find out (measurement). Whatever you find is a result but its only one of the 2 possible results. Your measurement has corrupted the super position and you can't know the true state. Its some crap like that. Nothing to do with tree in forest paradox, albeit similar.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment

If we live in a simulation (and we do), why would the programmers have the tree make a sound when nobody would hear it? This is poor optimization.
You only do the heavy calculations when there is someone to observe, else you wing it.

t. Unity pro

The thought experiment was developed to display how ridiculous he thought the Copenhagen interpretation was.
It's memed to hell and back because apparently, anything related to quantum physics is tantamount to magic.

>It's literally just, "If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to here it, does it make a sound?" stated in a contrived manner

That's not it at all, though.

>If we live in a simulation (and we do)
fucking kek
>duhh durr, i cant understand causal relationships when they dont involve human perception, therefore all causal relationships must have been designed by some kind of super man
this is the most retarded idea

>if we live in a simulation and we do
>and we do
>and
>we
>do

How did you come to this conclusion.

autism

A technologically mature "posthuman" civilization would have enormous computing power. Based on this empirical fact, the simulation argument shows that at least one of the following propositions is true:
>(1) The fraction of human-level civilizations that reach a posthuman stage is very close to zero;
>(2) The fraction of posthuman civilizations that are interested in running ancestor-simulations is very close to zero;
>(3) The fraction of all people with our kind of experiences that are living in a simulation is very close to one.

If (1) is true, then we will almost certainly go extinct before reaching posthumanity.
If (2) is true, then there must be a strong convergence among the courses of advanced civilizations so that virtually none contains any relatively wealthy individuals who desire to run ancestor-simulations and are free to do so.
If (3) is true, then we almost certainly live in a simulation. In the dark forest of our current ignorance, it seems sensible to apportion one’s credence roughly evenly between (1), (2), and (3).

Unless we are now living in a simulation, our descendants will almost certainly never run an ancestor-simulation.
Now consider how closer hard we are trying to run such simulations, how close we are, and the rates at which we are getting closer.

people think QM Is literally magic

qm and ftl are literally magic

The more we learn a to bout quantum mechanics the closer we come the founding of the jedi.

QM means literally anything is possible. And there's shit our there we never even imagined.

QM literally btfo's atheists and theists alike.

The universe is alive and human consciousness is bound to it.

Souls literally exist.

Aaaaaand, no. What you said has nothing to do with quantum mechanics.

>t. just read a kewl popsci article

> dude, like totally, you get me man

Schrodinger's cat is literally just him proposing a counter-argument to mystical approach of quantum superstate with a thought experiment. Ironically however it's often used to further mystify quantum mechanics as if it is some enigmatic eldritch magic. It's mostly just quantum physicists roleplaying to feel like some explorers of occult.

>would have
>empirical
nice try

"Quantum mechanics needs no consciousness"

danko-nikolic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Yu-and-Nikolic-Qm-and-consciousness-Annalen-Physik.pdf

>It's literally just, "If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to here it, does it make a sound?" stated in a contrived manner
You seem confused. It's really Schrödinger's way of telling that quantum mechanics don't make any logical sense.

Sum up why, cbs at this hour.

as the observer, you become part of the environment you're testing. Your presence changes the environment and so by being there, you will never know what it's like if you weren't there watching.

>The fraction of all people with our kind of experiences that are living in a simulation is very close to one.
and what would a non-simulated experience of living things be?

I want to know how he'll respond to this

Looks like was right

>all these unfounded assumptions

Yes but only because our observations in some way require photons bouncing off shit which is enough to move the observed object. We don't magically impact it

QM is STEMshit and is completely irrelevant.

>Stemfags trying to into metaphysics,

It is by definition. To reach this post-human state of civilization you need such computing power, like we replaced human muscle power with animal and then machine power.

I don't understand your question, as in I can't make sense of this chain of words. Rephrase it.

>ur gud at maths therfor ur rong
Hold the onions, but put some mustard on it, boy/

any easter eggs?

Is this actual fact?

If by observation he means visual queues, it is.
However in practice we can measure changes in weight, pressure, and so on, and also call these "observations".

Yes

>how close we are

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

There are more The Sims persons simulated than there are real people, considering the average number of them per game and the sales of the software. Large scale simulation is already trivial, and the rate at which we are making it more real is hard to believe. Such simulation gave us genetic splicing, which is currently used on human fetuses in China, and will spread as ethical concerns are ignored. Within your life you will see pregnant women picking what color of eyes their child has.

It's more complex than you explained but popular culture has just made it into "lmao the cat could be dead or alive who knows lol i'm such a science person"

Isin't obvious that the tree make a sound? And i guess they aren't same. And answering your question user, i think it's because:

1. Its cool
2. Its interesting

>Isin't obvious that the tree make a sound?
It is obvious that the tree makes waves, which if there was an ear tied to a conscious mind, would be interpreted as sound.
You need a consciousness there, with the proper apparatus, to turn waves to sound.