Childhood is being upset with Caesar's assassination

Childhood is being upset with Caesar's assassination

Adulthood is realising it made sense.

>make Gauls into Roman citizens, get assassinated a week later

FUCK VERCINGETOREX AND FUCK GALLIC PEOPLE

the senates charges against him were a joke tho

so what

It was good, but only because Augustus then became emperor.

Its always funny to me that artistic portrayals of Caesar, whether its the Cleopatra film, the Shakespeare play, or the HBO show always portray Caesar is the guy who did nothing wrong and surely would have transcended manhood if he lived longer. Its a weird contradiction in the west where democracy can be traced to the Roman Republic and yet we idolize the man who was instrumental in its conversion to a monarchy.

arresting a general because he's too successful

>conquer all of Gaul for the glory of Rome
>get declared an enemy of Rome
>slowly walk back to Rome with your legions to talk this out
>Pompeii and the Senate sperglord out and flee the city
>amass legions to fight yours
>what the fuck are these idiots even doing
>kick their asses all across the Empire
>accept them all back as brothers with no repercussions
>they stab you to death on the Senate floor

Op is mistaken

Because Caesar represents everything that is good in western civilization while the Senate just looks like an incompetent elite of wealthy fucks leeching off the republic.

what exactly was good about Caesar for western civilization? He contributed nothing intellectually or to culture, and was a demagogue in the senate who got things done by spending decadently out of Crassus's purse. And then he goes off and kills barbarians before going back to kill his own people. How Cultural!

>subdued all of Western Europe (except Ireland) from dispersed tribes
>what did he do for Western civilization

Crucify yourself citizen

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>western civ is roman civ
>conquest of gaulbladder took talent

The calendar for example.
But I am not talking about his achievements but his virtues.

Whats wrong with killing dictators? Isn't the western world obsessed with toppling dictators right now?

What did you guys mean by this? Surely, you wouldn't be insulting the best and most generous dictator the world has ever seen.

pshhh, sic semper tyrannis, kid...

>The die is cast

>most generous dictator
That's like being the most gentle rapist.
Only good dictator is a dead dictator.
SIC SEMPER TYRANIS BROTHER

Childhood is being upset with Caesar's assassination
College age is realising it made sense.
Adulthood is knowing that though sensible they fucked up anyway.

>born monarch murdered by a bunch of inept politican scum

Basically a metaphor for what democracy has done to monarchy

Childhood is taking sides on Caesars assassination

Adulthood is realizing both sides were non-democratic (in the modern sense) aristocrats with no real idealogical superiority over the other.

Caesar is Superman
Brutus is Lex Luthor

As a child you're probably gonna side with the larger than life fighter who brought down wild barbarians and people who meant to invade and conquer his country.

As an adult you come to realize that his enemies were completely in the right, he way too much power for a single man, whatever his good intentions now, he was bound to be corrupted eventually. You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Brutus and his comrades in the Senate took it upon themselves to eliminate the beloved and charismatic figure, knowing they would be demonized by contemporary and future generations, because it was the right thing to do.

Was Julius the first Roman emperor?

Caesar knew he was going to die. I seen some cool documentary on it. He went out alone without his guards knowing it would happen.

It wasnt an assassination. It was a suicide

>Kill Julius
>think you saved the republic
>His heir is 10 times the politician he ever was and actually manages to get the senate to vote their own power away and make it hereditary
what a glorious fuckup that was

>all dictators are bad
What a silly meme.

>do the "right thing"
>the thing you tried to prevent inevitably happens anyway
there's some deep social commentary in there somewhere

But that's wrong. The optimates were fucking the working poor of the Republic by mass-importing slaves to do all the farmwork and construction that had previously been done by the average Roman citizen. There were tens of thousands of war veterans who had fought for the Republic but had been left unemployed after the end of their 20 years service because the nobility were buying up all the land and tending their latifundia with massive armies of slaves. It's basically the modern equivalent to outsourcing. Caesar saw this and tried to redress the balance, and was killed for it.

Caesar was basically the Roman Alexander

Being murdered by a bunch of pseudo-aristoi is the worst possible fate

ITT: People who continue to fall for Caesar's muh working class propaganda two thousand years on.

Caesar had nothing in his heart but himself, and you are all fools who would willingly bow to tyranny if it promised grain for all.

Its the opposite, no one today cares about the working class of the Roman people two thousand years ago. We just want to hear about some dude doing bold things.

Yes, nobody is arguing for radical wealth redistribution in modern times. Nobody wants to overthrow democratic governments in favor of a command regime! Nobody at all; just ignore the man underneath the curtain.

He did more for the people of Rome than the Senate ever did.

Your picture isn't Cincinnatus.

Rome was a dysfunctional mess by the time of the late Republic, and he did what he had to to strengthen and revitalize Rome before it collapsed in on itself. His efforts were almost undone when some autistic senators stabbed him to death, but luckily Octavian was willing to pick up the torch.