Unit 731 >Total death count: 15,000 >Aftermath for Japan: Not tried for war crimes by the US in exchange for research done on the victims
The Holocaust >Total death count 6,000,000-11,000,000 >After for Germany (Nazis): The Numbrgerg Trials and basically fucking up all the Nazis the US couldn't convince to come work for us.
>war crimes >literally european faggots trying to punish you for pragmatic war behavior that would give you the win
What a joke, the U.N and NATO are terrorist to anything that isnt Europe.
Logan Walker
Unit 731 is almost certainly responsible for more deaths, considering they were responsible for handling biological warfare, and dropped anthrax and bubonic plague on the Chinese.
And you're comparing a specific group made up of scientists to the entirety of the Nazi regime, the fuck you doing m8?
Grayson Murphy
I don't know I just wanted to see these topics discussed.
Charles Murphy
TL;DR
The Germans and Japanese committed a shitload of warcrimes.
The allies killed as many of them as they could kill and still have enough dudes left to keep the country together and away from the reds.
The atom bombs were completely justified, as was Dresden.
William Martinez
>terrorist to anything that isnt Europe. except, they punished exclusively Europeans.
Nathan Johnson
>and dropped anthrax and bubonic plague on the Chinese
Source? That's brutal as fuck if it's true. Did they record the effects?
Brody Hughes
The US wanted those juicy Jap secrets.
Tyler Butler
fuck
Jace Bailey
>"bias" >the US dropped 2 fucking nukes on them avenging every Chang and then some Would the unbiased thing have been to nuke Dresden and Munich?
No they punish anyone who isnt them, the USA irradiated two towns in Japan yet was trialed for war crimes.
Justin Long
That's nothing new. People would catapult plague infested bodies over castle walls back in the middle ages.
Christopher Sanchez
why are we so evil bros?
Nolan Bennett
Dozens of high ranking Japanese military officials were still executed. Most famously Tojo.
Austin Sanchez
>avenging every Chang and then some The Chinese lost upwards of 20,000,000 people in the 2nd Sino-Japanese War and WW2. The US would of had to nuke every city to avenge it. Japs and G*rms got of easy.
John Walker
They dropped bubonic plague on random villages in Machukuo. It doesn't even make sense because sometimes Japanese soldiers in Manchukuo would get rekt by it as well, but Unit 731 wasn't exactly the most compassionate group. Nigga, they would cut off people's legs and then reattach them to where their arms used to be to see if they would grow back.
Chinese dislike Japanese for a reason
Koreans and Russians (and a few Americans) ended up getting killed as well.
Joseph Turner
Dozens though, when by any reasonable definition of The Allied Post-War Tribunal on War Crimes, many more deserved it.
For example, their prime ministers and Abe's father
Sebastian Torres
Ironically enough, they also executed innocent ones, thanks to McArthur.
A complete fuckup. Let 90% of the criminals go and kill the a guy.
Jaxon Mitchell
>expecting anything else from MacArthur
The guy was a complete fuck up that never should had been put in charge of anything.
Luke Perez
The holocaust wasn't real. Can you please look at the primary sources.
Brandon Kelly
The difference is Unit 731 provided medical and scientific knowledge we wanted and would never be able to get away with.
Nazis, for the most part, did not. And the scientist that did, we also have amnesty and moved to the States to continue their work.
Robert Nguyen
Primary sources like hundreds of thousands of malnourished skeletons in mass graves, thousands of government reports, pictures, and tens of thousands of literal Holocaust survivors with serial numbers on their arms?
Jason Peterson
>The difference is Unit 731 provided medical and scientific knowledge we wanted and would never be able to get away with. [Citations needed]
All sources on the aftermath of Unit 731, the few that there are, state that US reports later concluded "little practical applicable value from the results of the experiments."
Caleb Evans
Yeah, I'd say that reattaching dismembered limbs to different parts of the body to see if they'll regenerate isn't exactly all that scientifically useful.
Unit 731 was widely known in the IJA intelligence organization as a fuckup group of sadists. They got a lot more desperate once they needed a superweapon though 1944-1945.
Carson Thompson
>Germany: Firebombed >Japan: Firebombed and nuked twice for good measure
Liam Gray
Is unit 731 the source of all the holocaust/evil german scientist memes?
Joshua Wilson
No, that's operation paperclip, which accounts for expats more than bona fide nazis.
Unit 731 actually had scientists, operating methodically. Meanwhile Mengele just dicked around and did nothing productive for the Nazis or anyone else.
Hunter Nelson
Wasn't that a recruitment program
Brandon Carter
>Primary sources like hundreds of thousands of malnourished skeletons in mass graves,
yet not a single gassing victim
>thousands of government reports, pictures, and tens of thousands of literal Holocaust survivors with serial numbers on their arms?
not a single german document references mass gassings, those survivors were from concentration camps not alleged death camps
there really is no irrefutable proof mass gassings occured
just look at treblinka. supposedly 750k peeople were gassed buried dug up and burnt to dust and the only evidence of this is from like 7 eyewitnesses (literally)
treblinka has never even been excavated
Isaac Bailey
Unit 731. Is that the place that was disguised as a water treatment plant? I heard some fucked up shit happened in their. Testing grenades on babies and shit.
Adam Mitchell
Testing grenades on babies? No that's just one of those attention-seeking made up bullshit.
Bleeding political prisoners dry and then injecting gallons of horse blood into them to see how long they stay alive?
Sounds unbelievable, but that shit actually happened.
John Gomez
Westerners car less about Asians
No shit.
There's a reason Korean War is considered forgotten
Noah Martin
This is a history board and this is not a holocaust denial thread. Also, you should check out holocaust controversies blog if you want to know more about the holocaust. Revisionist sites aren't a good source of knowledge.
Henry Gomez
But everyone remembers Vietnam. Its more like no one remembers Korea because nothing happened because of Korea.
Connor Walker
>nothing happened because of Korea.
Idk about that one mate....
Samuel Ortiz
The war is a stalemate, and the US didn't have a mini Cultural Revolution over it.
Nothing major happened in a way that would make it memorable, aside from maybe providing a setting for MASH.
Josiah Campbell
>7 eye witnesses
So more eye witnesses than the entire Wars of the Roses then?
Jackson Ward
The War of the Roses is a hoax too though
Elijah Smith
better just brush it under the rug because they had the juiciest bits on human experimentation, maybe we could learn a thing.
Henry Thomas
It's because no one won.
Ethan Perez
>we didn't kill enough civilians to outweigh the war crimes of political and military leaders Edgy is fine and all just try a bit harder not to be retarded
Julian Allen
Non whites are never held to the same standards of white. Sad but true.
Bentley Martin
Few people knew about Unit 731 so the Americans could quietly take the "research" and pardon Ishii and others. The research wasn't particularly useful, but the Americans weren't to know that and they wanted to keep it out of Soviet hands anyway. That's it.