Hitler and the real reason for ww2

Let's not forget that Hitler was obsessed with Ancient Rome and was trying re-establish/emulate it. For me, it's the McChicken

The Greatest Meme Never Told is a farce. Now prepare your stormfag asshole because Im coming in hard

>Germany was screwed over at the end of WWI (which Germany had won) by the treaty of Versailles (see "the stab in the back")

Germany obviously didnt win if they were subject to such a shit treaty. And even then, it wasnt NEARLY as bad as stormfags or Hitler made it out to be.

>>War of 1918, communist Jews from Russia use Germany's weak state and try to overthrow the government, sparking a civil war

The German revolution was started by a German Sailor mutiny called the Kiel Mutiny. this snowballed into a nation wide bloodless revolution that ended with the Kaiser abdicating the throne and placing the Social Democrats in charge. The Communist party of Germany (none of whos leaders were russian) then tried to overthrow this new socialist government and failed horribly. And the main communist instigator of the Spartacist Rebellion was a non jew named Karl Liebknecht

>>Hitler created over 6 million jobs in 2 years and made the greatest economic recovery in history

No he didnt. He stopped counting minority groups as part of the unemployed to artificially inflate his numbers. Also, the Nazi Economy wasnt anywhere near what stormfags claim. See pic related.

>>Jews made up 2% of the German population yet comprised over 50% of media, 70% of judges, and nearly 100% of the banking system

[citation needed]

>>Hitler was compassionate towards Jews by agreeing to let them immigrate to Palestine with all of their assets from 1933- start of WWII (see the Haavara Agreement)

Offering some shitty emigration plan is hardly "compassionate" especially when he ended up murdering them all anyway. He wasnt even secret about this and even said he was going to destroy the jewish race

youtube.com/watch?v=yNk_osZWScw&t=7s&bpctr=1490411456

Anti-Jewish sentiment was part of Hitlers plan since day one and he ended up by slaughtering ~6 million of them. to try and claim "w-well he was going to originally kick them all out before he decided to murder them so this makes him compassionate!" is asinine. Especially since Hitler also planned to hand Palestine over to Palestinian Muslims who had just as much of a deep seated hatred of jews as Hitler. So best case scenario, Hitler is throwing the Christians to the lions so to say. What a great humanitarian!

>>Poland started WWII by inflicting atrocities on ethnic Germans inside Poland (see Danzig Massacres)

UTTERLY WRONG!

First of all, there is no such thing as "The Danzig Massacre" this is LITERALLY something you just made up and Im pretty sure even the shitty meme movie you mention doesnt even say that. What you are referring to is an event known as "Bloody Sunday"

But heres the kick, this event happened 3 days AFTER the Germans invaded Poland, so how the fuck could Poland be the one to start it then?

>b-but the Poles still killed poor innocent ethnic Germans though!

No because the Germans the Polish Military did kill attacked them first since they were part of a pro-Nazi militia force called the Selbstschutz. This militia force attacked first and then got #rekt by the Polish Army. When the Nazis came across this, they used it for propaganda purposes about how poor innocent Germans were slaughtered, but even then, They still never even pretended that was the direct cause of their invasion because again, it happened 3 DAYS AFTER THE NAZIS INVADED.

Also, Poland never even owned Danzig. It was a free city under the care of the League of Nations. Poland had no say in what Danzig did. The war started because Hitler wanted the Polish Corridor in order to connect his eastern territories with Germany. When Poland refused to just hand the area over, he invaded.

>>Russia and Germany invaded Poland together but the allies only waged war against Germany

Because Britain had a treaty with Poland that only specified protecting them from Germany. The way they saw it, in the long run, Germany and Russia werent going to be buddy buddy forever (which is of course true) and they thought it was suicide to go up against both at once.

In either case, Britain failed anyway since they were supposed to immediately come to the aid of Poland, yet they and France did nothing for 8 months in an event called the "Phony War"

When Stalin invaded Finland, the Brits did try to ship arms and supplies to them, but neutral Norway and Sweden rejected them access.

>>Hitler offered a 16 point peace plan and Britain refused to report it to the public because the British people would find it fair, and Poland refused to even look at it

because it was a shitty retarded deal that boiled down to this.

>Germany gets to control all the disputed area for now and we get to not only import Germans into this area, but also deport Poles who are new to the area. And the Nazi government will oversee an election in this area of if they want to join us or not.

Plus Hitler had already blown his wad and proven he was a lying scumbag when he invaded Poland in the first place which was against the agreement he made with other European powers at the Munich Agreement.

,000 Jews were killed inside of concentration camps (most of them died from typhoid and allied bombs- per International Red Cross)

~1 Million were killed at Auschwitz alone. Its always funny seeing stormfags making up these arbitrary numbers in some pathetic attempt to sound "reasonable" since all their previous denial claims have gotten so utterly destroyed that even they are forced to acknowledge to horrors of the camps. And is wasnt just the camps, there was also the Einsatzgrouppen death squads sweeping around eastern europe.

And the "muh bombed supply lines!" excuse doesnt hold up at all. First off, because of Hitlers OBVIOUS intent on destorying the jewish race

see
second, because of the fact that Warsaw Ghetto Poles and Jews were starving on a massive scale because the war even started due to deliberately restricting them food. And things like Aktion 14f13 which was a program all about finding inmates at the camps too sick for slave labor and then killing them (this was an offshoot of Aktion T4 which murdered ~700,000 mentally retarded and handicapped people)

and third and most obvious because the Allies who liberated those camps had literally no problem at all shipping in food, water, and medical supplies.

>B-BUT THE REDCROSS SAID IT DIDNT HAPPEN!

Actually, they didnt. This is a stormfag lie thats been proven wrong since the mid 1970s by the Red Cross themselves. pic related.

>Why don't they teach you these facts in school?

You mean why dont schools teach retarded internet conspiracy theories gullible NEET faggots fall for? Now run back to your little safe space with your tale between your legs you pathetic cuck.

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kill yourself faggot, no matter what /pol/ tells you the holocaust did happen. Stop being retarded

Holy shit Veeky Forums is full of cucks and contra-contrarians.

Translation "why don't you guys believe my conspiracy theory meme movie?!??+"

It's another "the Allies did the real holocaust by bombing supply lines causing starvation in the campa" episode. Ignore that the guards in those camps and Allied military prisoners also in those camps suffered nowhere near the same level of disease and starvation.

"Bit of course the Germans fed their own men first!!!" Litterally a war crime under the 1929 Geneva Convention. Also doesn't explain why they also fed and supplied the Allied military prisoners too.

Maybe the Jewish people shouldn't have made the Germans so mad tho.

You act as If they had no agency and were just beset by Germans without cause.

Typical Jewish victim psychosis.

Every conflict has two participants and often more.

An honest historian admits that Germany wasn't the first civilization to show the Jews the door.

Jews themselves will determine if it's the last however.

you can say what you want about the Jews or whatever. But national socialism is a shit economic system and all of the good effects were either made up or would have happened in any system

>invade multiple countries
>steal everything that's not nailed down
>whoooooa look at how good our economy is

>The Anti-Nazi Boycott of 1933 was a boycott of German products by foreign critics of the Nazi Party in response to antisemitism in Nazi Germany following the rise of Adolf Hitler

And your explanation for the German people rapidly recovering from WWII and becoming the economic and political leaders of Europe a 3rd time is....

Obviously not national socialism but what?

rearmament was paid for by massive borrowing and debt that Germany paid off by nationalizing Austria's gold reserves

That wasn't the only charge leveled against them.

Would YOU tolerate an insular hostile tribal minority fucking with every aspect of your civilization?

You're intellectually dishonest if you can't admit that the Jewish people once more dug their own grave.

Germany wasn't the first civilization to show the Jewish people the door. And with an attitude like yours, no inherent causality, it won't be the last.

Got any proof that they were hostile and tribal in pre 1930s Germany?

You... you really have no concept of why the German people turned on them so readily like a hundred civilizations before?

This is really a mystery to you?

>germany
>civilization

you mean muh kultur

Morons will respond to this unironically.

SHUT IT DOWN

THE GOYIM KNOW

?

No I mean civilization you illiterate mong.

>the society, culture, and way of life of a particular area.

If it's so blindingly obvious, it should be a simple task to provide sources and proof of them being hostile, tribal and fucking up civilisation.

Well shit kiddo what do you want me to do, summarize Mein Kampf for you?

You know what, I don't even care. Believe the jewish people were blameless victims in all this if you want.

Just like the hundred times previous...

So, it's obvious why people turned against the Jews, but you can't cite any concrete sources, other than a homeless hobo losing a debate with some and becoming eternally butthurt?

Sounds like you have it all figured out then.

Sounds like you're a stormcunt who can't actually back up his statements because the dank infographics didn't go into that much detail.

None of these civilizations started out anti-semitic.

They were all taught to be though. Through constant and prolonged interaction with Jews.

>stormcunt

I'm really not. Unless Koreans are now white supremacist. Which might become a thing.

What I am is intellectually honest.

>this chart again

Might want to look up what else is happening during those expulsions and the actual number of people being thrown out

>intellectually honest
>can't provide a source other than "its obvious!"

No.

Okay fine I tried to appeal to reason.

What is your explanation for all the Jewish expulsions from so many societies?

I will honestly consider.

People using existing crises to get rid of the people they owe money to or to take their stuff for their own gain. It's that simple really.

That list is also entirely free of any kind of source or citation other than a nonfunctional website and ignores that coin clipping continued after the edict of expulsion and the ridges were only added by Newton when he was master of the mint.

>jews did nothing wrong

Well that hasn't been the common review of jews mein bro.

I could understand if NS Germany was like, an outlier. Or the only ones saying it. But the only real thing all those civilizations in various ages and stages of development had in common.

They all, at some point, decided that it was critical to their survival to chase all the jews away.

I mean, come on.

>no one actually ever expelled the jews

Wew lad take a step back

>Things Noone Said:The Post

So what's the point of questioning the validity of the list?

Either way we still have over a hundred civilizations that all decided that they had a real problem.

And that problem was the jews

Pretending like the jews are just perpetual victims is sophomoric. They have agency.

They are active participants.

>throwing out the couple of Jews in your town (and incidentally wiping away your own debts) while everyone is distracted by the crusade/war/revolution
>critical to their survival

Like it said, look up what else is happening and the numbers of people actually involved.

>jews literally never did anything wrong and all goyim all across the globe are at fault

I give up on you

The list claims they were thrown out for "rape, murder and thievery", but doesn't actually cite any proof of them doing those things.

>they threw out the Jews
>why?
>they were doing crimes
>where's the evidence they were doing crimes?
>the evidence is we threw them out

>Things Noone Said: The Post 2

>jews didn't do anything wrong the goyim are always crazy liars hahaha

Okay

It's exactly what you are saying. Or that their only mistake has been to overuse the system of usury.

Is that your point? That Jews always abuse usury wherever they go?

Well there are many other complaints from various people in separate societies all across the spectrum of places where jews have congregated.

>boohoo jews refuse to buy products from the state wich discriminate jews and call them parasites
thats as retarded as israel calling boycotters of their state antisemites

>the Jews didn't do anything wrong

Well so far noone has actually presented any sources or proof of them doing wrong. Despite it apparently being obvious.

T. Abe Foxman

Fucking epic rebuttal my man.

you still havent posted anything at all to prove your point. This is the best way to deal with stormfags. Just give them the floor and watch them shit themselves lol

>jews never did anything wrong because you don't have CCTV evidence from 1614

Sorry hebros I'm gonna have to side with everyone else in history on this one.

You two side with the jews and we'll all just slowly walk hand in hand to the next expulsion.

>not only so they lay the blame on the goyim every time
>they won't even admit a single act of wrongdoing

Amazing. Truly.

So once again your evidence of their wrongdoing is "well they were thrown out for their wrongdoing"?

>0.25 shekels deposited

>still hasnt posted ONE (1) thing to back up his claim.

Amazing. So I outright destory every single point OP makes, then all you have is "b-but jews deserved it!"

then when asked why, you completely crumble under pressure and cant even come up with one fucking reason. You are utterly impotent.

>The Greatest Story Never Told

HAHAHAHAHA

>claiming others are paid shills when your shitty conspiracy theory gets called out.

All your points were destroyed and now all you can do is call people names lol

No I'm with you.

They are perpetual agentless victims of goyim. Pretty much the downs syndrome whipping boy and laughing stock of history.

They never once had a hand I their outcome and are a tribal leaf on the wind, always at the whim of better organized and more successful goyim.

I'm with you. Poor jews amirite ;_;

I like how European cities are now whole civilizations. There are maybe 10 countries in your list and all were part of the Christian sphere of influence.

I hate how not one of you can just admit that jewish people had shortcomings and did bad deeds.

It's pretty interesting and obvious. Every other people on Earth can admit that their ancestors did some heinous shit.

But not jews in 2017.

Why do lots of people immediately believe a documentary or book they read?

>I hate how not one of you can just admit that jewish people had shortcomings and did bad deeds.

Because youre a psychopathic conspiracy tard who is desperately searching for any reason to justify Hitler despite every single point you made being destroyed.

You also failed to mention a single reason to justify the nazi hatred of jews

So much time spent on shitposting that could be used to bring up your apparently obvious sources.

Because it turns out, most people don't think jews are some kind of hive mind and become one of them does something bad, doesn't mean every Jew everywhere deserves punishment.

So why did Hitler want them removed, in your opinion?

Because they're contrarian edgelords desperate to validate their edgy contrarian position.

"See! See! Hitler wasn't a bad guy, this documentary says so!"

because he was an irrational.

>THERE IS AN ILLUMINATI PLOT BY BIG TIME BANKING JEWS TO DESTORY GERMANY FOR REASONS! I NEED TO MURDER THESE UKRANIAN JEWISH PEASANTS BECAUSE THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY IN ON THIS!

Because he was a crazy antisemite.

Because minorities are easy targets

>jews never did nothing wrong
>goyim are always crazy and irrational

Lol you guys are pathetic.

Actually Hitler wasn't crazy or irrational. He was actually followi in the footsteps of 100 previous civilizations who all came to the same conclusion.

But in your minds jews never did wrong in all of history.

P A T H E T I C

>Nazis claim holocaust didn't happen
>ignore Goebbels' diaries
>ignore Jäger report
>ignore Himmler's speeches in Posen
>ignore Höfle Telegram
>ignore testimony of Sonderkommandos and Kapos

>minorities can never be wrong

Fuck yourself

>still cant name ONE (1) reason

lol. Also, you are admitting the holocaust happened while still denying it happened.

those are all faked by the jews of course!

Yet ANOTHER post that doesn't actually cite any example other than "the guy before me did it so...".

This is such a naive question it's almost adorable. Nothing in history is that simple. There isn't one reason. Hitler's ideas weren't new or original. Modern antisemitism appeared in 19th century and it's connected to the appearance of nationalism and industrialization. Jews were blamed for both capitalism and communism.

Okay LibNat

You're right. All the goyim across all of history are irrational and crazy. Truth is, the jewish people are always good citizens and a net benefit for the host societies.

There was never a valid reason to expel any of them. Fucking goyim amirite?

Too bad jews always chose to live among them then.

>Modern antisemitism

This phrase has no meaning. The only consistent part of jewish existence has been hostility with non-jews.

>All the goyim across all of history are irrational and crazy

Once AGAIN a thing only the stormcunts in this thread are saying

>Too bad jews always chose to live among them then.

It's almost like they were forbidden to have their own country for hundreds of years and when they do get one, people keep REEEEEEEEEEEEEing over it anyway.

I mostly agree but the spartacus league league leaders qere mostly jewish, let's nor reinvent history because it might suit the stormkeks a little. The spartacus league and the versailles treaty being harsh are probably the two only semi-truths they have, if we pretend it's utterly false then there is no way to bring them back to reality as they'll simply shut down and go into reductio ad juden mode.

>only consistent part of jewish existence has been hostility with non-jews.

Should be an easy job to give citations to such hostility then?

In before: "they offered to give me money, but it wasn't for free! REEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!"

Then what did the jews do wrong to have so many civilizations decide that the only way forward was to remove them?

You mean the hundred plus times goyim said 'Holy shit these jews need to go somewhere else!' before NS Germany?

Modern antisemitism is different than older Christian antisemitism.

People owed them money. After the Jews are expelled from England, Italian merchants picked up their moneylending businesses. Guess what? People hated them, rioted against them and demanded they be thrown out too.

>individual towns across Europe are separate civilisations now

So YET AGAIN, your citation for them doing something wrong is "well they guy before us threw them out"?

The treaty wasn't that harsh. And the communist revolution happened after the armistice.

In what way is modern jewish criticism different from christian jewish criticism?

Civilization - the society, culture, and way of life of a particular area.

You Israelis really get a shitty education in English.

Modern criticism is "they're all puppet masters who are secretly behind both capitalism and communism", where as before it was "they killed Jesus and also charge interest".

>Manchester is a whole different civilisation to Liverpool

Is this what stormniggers actually believe?

Yes.

If jews managed to piss that many people off across the globe throughout history then yes.

I'm 100% willing to believe that they had their reasons.

In the past they blamed them for kiling Christian children, using magic, stealing money and so on. Modern antisemitism is more about Jews trying to rule the world, polluting pure nations with their foreign blood and destroying culture and spirit with materialism.