Atheism leads to Totalitarianism

Over 130 million people have been killed in state authorized purges by a long line of atheistic leaders: 72 million people killed in China, 40 million in the former USSR, Hitler 15 million, 2 million in North Korea, 2 million in Cambodia, 1.7 million in Africa, 1.5 million in Afghanistan, 1 million in Vietnam, 150 thousand in Latin America by leaders such as Mao, Stalin, the Cambodian communist leader Pol Pot, the Albanian communist leader Enver Hoxha, Prime minister of Cuba Fidel Castro, Romanian president Nicolae Ceausescu, Kim Jong-il

… On and on the list goes.

It is understandable that atheists are not at all comfortable with these facts of modern history. They shy away from such conclusions and tell us that the evils done by such leaders were, in fact, merely secondary to their atheism, and not because of it. In other words, the fact that these leaders happened to be atheists had little to do with the evils that they perpetrated upon the church going. This is the false and deceitful claim that Richard Dawkins champions. It is an argument without any basis or grounding in history but is rather pure atheistic fictional fundamentalism.

Atheistic philosopher Nietzsche was the first to say that God is dead and not long after that a bloodbath ensued because in a humanist system there is no law above man and no one to be ultimately accountable to. As one man put it: “In the 18th century, the Bible was killed; in the 19th century, God was killed; in the 20th century, man was killed.”

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Hitler, Mao, and Stalin had religions. Hitler's religion was called National Socialism. Mao and Stalin's religion was called Communism.

Hitler wasn't an atheist

Atheist dictators killed more people in the 1st half of 20th century than all of the world's wars throughout history combined - hundreds of millions - a mountain of bodies and a river of blood!

North Korean leader, Kim Jong-un considers religion an opiate of the people – and what he means by this is a chemical sleep inducing, dull numbing narcotic; of course this is not an original thought for Kim because he is the by-product of a savage barbarous inhuman atheistic system that brutally murdered 130 million people in the name of extracting this so-called narcotic from people by beating them to death and smashing their skulls against concrete walls. It was Karl Marx that helped Kim to realise that God was the opiate of the masses, for Marx, the solution was simple - religion had to be eradicated so that the creation of the new man and the new utopia, freed from the shackles of God and religion, could emerge, leading to the liberation of man and the advancement of civilisation, and 130 million slaughters later the only thing that emerged was a mass grave and a dictator that hated God and controlled his own people like worthless puppets that had no freedom of speech and no recourse to even raise that as an issue. Kim, not wanting to be out-staged has decreed in his own little dictatorship of human robots that owning a Bible is grounds for execution or a very long holiday in one of his own body-breaking, soul-destroying labour camps. In fact, North Korea’s persecution of Christians knows no equal, and being a Christian there is considered one of the worst crimes possible.

Atheists weren't even allowed in the SS.

Yes he was.

Although Adolf Hitler was baptised as a catholic and used the church towards his own purposes to install a system of rule that became a killing machine, in his own personal life he became ever increasingly fascinated by materialistic philosophy and subsequently became absolutely obsessed with the idea of nature “red in tooth and claw”, the survival of the fittest and all other materialistic Godless philosophy that he used to justify the killings and mitigate his conscience. According to Evans, Hitler repeatedly called Nazism a secular ideology founded on science, which in the long run could not co-exist with religion. Richard J. Evans wrote that "Hitler emphasised again and again his belief that Nazism was a secular ideology founded on modern science. Science, he declared, would easily destroy the last remaining vestiges of superstition, in the long run', [Hitler] concluded, 'National Socialism and religion will no longer be able to exist together'". Goebbels wrote in 1941 that Hitler "hates Christianity". Alan Bullock considered that Hitler's central objection to Christianity, was that its teaching was "a rebellion against the natural law of selection by struggle and the survival of the fittest". According to the Goebbels Diaries, Hitler hated Christianity. In an 8 April 1941 entry, Goebbels wrote "He hates Christianity, because it has crippled all that is noble in humanity." "The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death. ... The dogma of Christianity gets worn away before the advances of science. Religion will have to make more and more concessions. Gradually the myths crumble.” – Hitler

In the long run, Hitler intended to destroy the influence of the Christian churches: Bullock wrote that, "Once the war was over, Hitler promised himself, he would root out and destroy the influence of the Christian Churches". Phayer wrote that "By the latter part of the decade of the thirties church officials were well aware that the ultimate aim of Hitler and other Nazis was the total elimination of Catholicism and of the Christian religion. Gill wrote that the Nazi plan was to "de-Christianise Germany after the final victory". Dill states, "It seems no exaggeration to insist that the greatest challenge the Nazis had to face was their effort to eradicate Christianity in Germany or at least to subjugate it to their general world outlook." According to Bendersky, it was Hitler's long range goal to eliminate the churches once he had consolidated control over his European empire. In regard to Hitler's brazen murder of the Jews, weak and disabled he drew his inspiration, strength and justification for the killings from materialistic philosophy and also used the reasoning of this philosophy to ridicule and persecute the Christians that stood against him. Hitler’s obsession with atheist philosopher, Friedrick Nietzsche is well documented. Although Hitler was raised a Catholic and appealed to certain Christian references he was no friend to Christianity and murdered many Christians that attempted to confront and expose his demonic agenda. Hitler was absolutely obsessed with Nietzsche’s superman and Nietzscheism came to be absolutely endemic in the master race. In fact, many of Nietzsche’s writings were selected and employed by Hitler to justify the killings and used as a justification for the new super master race in the elimination of inferior undesirables. In Nietzsche’s philosophy Hitler was the perfect antichrist.

You also need to bear in mind that Hitler hated the Jews and killed 6 million of them. Question: Do you think Jesus being a Jew fuelled his open contempt for Christians, as documented by those that worked with him. Nietzsche was an atheist and is famous for his, “God is dead” philosophy and Hitler was obsessed with Nietzsche’s materialistic Godless ideology. Compare these two quotes by Friedrick Nietzsche and Adolf Hitler and see if you can identify who influenced who? “Christianity remains to this day the greatest misfortune of humanity.” ― Friedrich Nietzsche “Our age knows better.... What was formerly merely sickly now becomes indecent—it is indecent to be a Christian today.” ― Friedrich Nietzsche "Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure." - Adolf Hitler "The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity." - Adolf Hitler “…I call Christianity the one great curse, the one enormous and innermost perversion…”- Friedrick Nietzsche "When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let's be the only people who are immunised against the disease."-Adolf Hitler "The only way of getting rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little". - Adolf Hitler “In the long run, National Socialism and religion will no longer be able to exist together.”- Adolf Hitler

Being anti-Christian doesn't make you an atheist

Hitler wasn't christian, but he was a Deist. Goebbels affirms that Hitler was "deeply religious but entirely anti-Christian."

The atheist in most cases will assert that he has no belief and that his atheism is all about a ‘LACK of BELIEF’. They really love to stress this, and I can see why, because such a claim has a smuggled-in superiority that they are the rational ones who build their lives solely on reason and evidence opposed to the believer’s position of faith. But what they don’t tell you and what they refuse to mention is that they do have a positive BELIEF which forms their worldview and that is the belief in philosophical NATURALISM Philosophical naturalism is the doctrine that the natural world is all there is). Every person runs their life on presuppositions - assumptions about life and the universe. No one is without them; even a position of skepticism implies a whole lot of knowledge and opinions about the nature of reality. In short nobody lives in a philosophical black hole – nobody is neutral. The fact is many atheists don’t want their own position scrutinized; they have their beliefs/opinions in regard to the bigger questions of life. When I asked one particular atheist what is your worldview, and what is the evidence for it? What is your philosophical position and what is the evidence that it's true, and truly reflective of ultimate reality? He just retorted back that he had no beliefs. I then asked him to just tell me what he doesn't believe so that I could establish what he believes by default, I got no reply. It was clear to me that this particular person – and I have met many others like him – did not want to shift the ground to discussing his positive beliefs as such a move would invariably lead into his belief of philosophical naturalism – much better for him to just assert atheism and its single one-eyed view of lack of belief. Don’t be fooled by the atheistic smokescreen, it’s just all smoke and mirrors. I just ignore people's claim of atheism and go straight to what they really believe.

>Hitler dabbled into the occult
That's even worse.

That guy is a retard.

It's always funny when atheists bring up the crusades or some bullshit. It's like they are clearly oblivious to recent history.

Hitler didn't dabble in the occult. that's not what a Deist is. Himmler dabbled in the occult and Hitler thought it was rather distasteful and silly

Those are political ideologies, not religions.

Current year: Islam leads to terrorism

In the past christianity has used violence to destroy other cultures and religions, just because it has been neutered by the enlightenment and nietzche doesn't mean it has become a lovely snowflake

>attach a picture of below average looking wearing outdated clothings man to anything to make it look less valuable

That's not how it works, re*dit.

>the occult
>Deism
user.

This.
>Hitler was an Atheist
is a meme that needs to die.

>Hitler’s obsession with atheist philosopher, Friedrick Nietzsche is well documented.
It isn't.

Ok you're right. But so does theism. Christianity provided the basis for many murderous tyrants throughout history and Islam still provides them today. As soon as christianity got into power in Rome a bloodbath also ensued.

The difference is that God, Jesus and the Bible condemn these things. Using Christianity as an "excuse" to wage war is retarded, because our faith is not based on war or violence.

It's like hitting pedestrians with a car and then blaming the car.

Atheism gives you an excuse for violence. There is no right or wrong, good or evil. Everything becomes relative and subjective. It leads to a path of destruction. Dictators did what they did because of their sincere belief that there was no ultimate judgement from a creator, thus having no qualms with a genocide or two.

Once you remove God out of the picture, the state becomes god.

Roman Catholicism and Islam are false religions.

Jesus is the Way, Truth and the Life.

>

The bible is full of contradictions, the translations dubious, and most significantly, most of its doctrines were decided by councils of mere mortal men with political interests, which changed "the message".

It is not a suitable reference point for understanding the world.

>The difference is that God, Jesus and the Bible condemn these things.

Oh you sweet, sweet, summer child.
>Deuteronomy 17
>If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

>my interpretation of christianity is the only correct one

Good luck with that.

>Dictators did what they did because of their sincere belief that they were blessed by god or called by god or would not be judged by god, thus having no qualms with a genocide or two.

>neckbeard fedora
>Nazi
These memes get more and more confusing.

That's the only type of "Nazi" that visits /pol/. The meth smoking white trash ones are in prison without internet access.

Hitler wasn't an atheist

The Bible has zero (0) contradictions.

The Mosaic Law was for the Israelites, which lived 3000 years ago in a different cultural context.

Try again.

Yes he was.

A firm believer in Darwin's monkey myth.

And Jesus said you have to follow said Mosaic law. Every jot and tittle. Oh, but if you knew that you'd know the messiah was only ever meant for Jews anyway and not the shit Paul made up that caused a huge schism when he did it. But it does make your religion much easier.

Also,
>bible
>no contrarictions

Pic related.

>Jesus said you have to follow said Mosaic law
No he didn't.

You just lost all your credibility, because you've clearly never read the New Testament.

Pulling shit from your ass won't work against someone has actually read the Bible cover to cover, multiple times.

>contradictions
Feel free to name one.

Their atheism (or lack thereof) is irrelevant to the atrocities commited. Theists are so childish.

>I-it's just a coincidence

And yours called Liberlism, Democracy.

It is political religion.

Like I said, theists are so childish.

>politics is religion
>economy is religion

Are atheists really this stupid?

Then explain the old law Jesus names and tells people to keep and not change a word of lest they be the least in heaven.

>I-i-it's just a c-coincidence!!

Pathetic.

Like I said, theists are so childish. Keep proving it

>political religion
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_religion

They are bot denominations of the religion of Statism.

>Don't believe in God
>The state turns into god

Thanks for proving OP's point.

ITT: atheists in damage control

I'm not an atheist

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. (NIV, Matthew 5:17–18

Typical christian hypocrisy,but I forgive you

Because I am morally superior

Yes, and He did fulfill them.

>atheist
>trying to talk about morals

>atheists
>picture is criticisms of communism

just leave

Atheists on suicide watch.

No he didn't, clearly, because not every non-Jew was stoned to death.

Communism is the most atheistic state ideology.

And religion leads to terrorism

The biggest serial killers and sociopathic murderers were atheists also.

If you don't believe in God and absolute morality - nothing is sacred.

Atheism is a dangerous and irrational cult.

So? The sky is blue. I can't criticize all blue things by condemning the sky. Likewise Communism is athiestic, but you can't condemn all atheism by being against Communism.

Your faith in authority (the bible) is the same type of faith Hitler exploited, you are morally corrupt

"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against such there is no law."

Galatians 5:22

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

John 3:16

Nice guess here, but serial killers are religious as fuck. No surprise here, as God is one of the biggest ones himself.

Poor bait.

0/10

>taking Paul at face value when the apostles hated him

I think you forgot about this little part m8
>whosoever believeth in him

Doesn't refute my point at all.

Regardless, if Jesus fulfilled this interpretation of the law then we would all be singing fucking koombayah

>apostles hated him

>Christcucks don't even know their own history

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incident_at_Antioch

there is literally nothing wrong with totalitarianism.

>apostles hated him

> i hope they will ignore the truth if i just said that it is a bait
Statistics is against you, buddy.

>Arm the population
>Problem solved

bump

>trying to reason with paulians

Sheer numbers don't mean anything. Of course Mao is going to be considered the worst dictator by these standards, but china is the most populated country on earth. Of course modern dictators are going to look more brutal when population experienced a huge increase thanks to industrialization.

You need percentage of the population to actually grasp the extention of these killings.

Guys! What if there something that leads to both of them at the same time?

Atheists tend to be more willing to accept reality which means they are much more likely to accept the facts that life has no inherent value and loss of life is a necessary part of positive social change. Religious people are incapable of accepting reality and can not that these facts are true because they are simply too scary for them to cope with.
*tips fedora*
*cums in your anus*

By definition they weren't religions but the fervent dogmatism that those people displayed resembled the way that religious people behave.

Meanwhile the 30 years war was the most deadly in Europe's history.

Stalin was literally educated in religion.

“The anti-Semitism of the new movement (Christian Social movement)
was based on religious ideas instead of racial knowledge.”
[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 3]

“I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty
Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord’s work.”
[Adolph Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936]

“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian
and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord
at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the
Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight
against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with
deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact
that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As
a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have
the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is
anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is
the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty
to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and
work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only
for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning
and see these men standing in their queues and look into their
pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very
devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two
thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people
are plundered and exposed.”

[Adolf Hitler, speech in Munich on April 12, 1922, countering a
political opponent, Count Lerchenfeld, who opposed antisemitism on
his personal Christian feelings.

>The difference is that God, Jesus and the Bible condemn these things.
No they don't

Hitler was Jewish. Stalin was Jewish.
So...

>B-but they weren't real atheists!
>Real atheism hasn't been tried yet!

Gotta love the mental gymnastics.

> Nazi weren't Christians! XD
That is why used holy cross on their flag.

b8

>&Humanities

But they weren't, nazism was a Protestant movement and Protestants aren't real Christians.

>nazism was a protestant movement

Is that why the Nazis were close with the Vatican?
Is that why they were in bed with the Pope?
Is that why Hitler fashioned the SS after the Jesuits?

ITT: atheist butthurt and damage control

Mussolini wasn't totalitarian

>they liked a group despite murdering lots of them
>THAT MEANS TTHEY TOTALLY STAND FOR THE SAME THING XDDD FUCK CHRISDENS

That wasn't religious; religious wars don't happen.

f-f-fuck off
a-atheism is objectively c-correct

Actively hating on Christianity is more an American thing.

t. redditor that's never actually read the bible
>And Jesus said you have to follow said Mosaic law.
No, he said Jews still had to. Ethnic Jews. Paul was divinely permitted to spread Christianity beyond one ethnicity because he actually knew oral and written scripture (unlike you).

There are no contradictions. But I'm sure a teenager with a stupid hat knows better than the few dozen experts in Biblical studies that I know.
>christianity is based on the bible
Talk about ignorance.

Atheists cannot be moral, they can only be immoral.

You're the summer child.

That isn't permitting violence, that is permitting violence against idolatry when it was a serious problem. Go speak to a fucking Rabbi instead of shooting off stock verses completely out of context.

Yes they were, you just don't know what he meant.
VIKANGS N SHIEET
Rome was the one murdering Christians.

>Dawkins
>Pro-Islam

Okay, so what? Moral nihilism which spawns from atheism says that life has no meaning. It's an outcome of our determinist materialist universe - the laws of nature allowed a process of natural selection to take place - which created life. It has no inherent meaning, it's just matter aligned in a certain way that makes it able to reproduce said alignement successfully. Your argument being: "hurr durr genocide is evil" is invalid, if I don't consider morality to be a relevant factor in any way to decide anything. Stop being a dumb ass and accept reality as it is, without your childish idealistic glasses on.

>laws of nature
Don't exist.