Race Of Ancient Eygyptions

okay meme, but skyscrapers arn't built to last.

This.

The majority of blacks are Bantus from West Africa.

They were Northeast Africans related to the Nubians, Beja, Tigre, Oromo and Somali. This issue was settled over a hundred years ago. The people making it racial rarely ever argued that Egyptians were Middle Easterners, and when they did they said they didn't say they were Arabs but Mesopotamians (see Dynastic Race Theory) but rather that the groups above were not "black" or "Negroid" (like the Hamitic Hypothesis)

Since the only two races anyone knows anything about in Africa are "blacks" and "arabs" people have been erroneously trying to slam them in one of these category. They weren't Berber either (a relatively new name for the Amazigh) those people were "Libyans" and much lighter in skin tone as you can even see today. Compare the fellahs of rural Egypt, as devoid of foreign mixture as possible and rural "Berbers"

I say this in every thread but both afrocucks and nord cucks are wrong. Going by their art (which I've autistically studied ), the majority were the same racial-type you see in today's Upper/Southern Egypt.

Lower/Northern Egypt was comprised by more fair types which are best represented by today's Copts. Copt-looking people were definitely around as you mostly see the women in the art work with that skin tone. However, "Ancient Egypt" was for the most part a product of the Southern brown population as the majority of their art shows highly pigmented people. The center of power would move North during Plotemiac Egypt though..

Also, throw in some Nubians (who are a mix of brown and very black types), and some fair Berber looking people (Ramses was a red-head).

>muh arab invasion
It didn't leave much genetic impact. In any case, Copts have 0 arab mixture and they look more or less "arab" phenotypically.

>muh king tut is european
that claim has been discredited
livescience.com/15388-discovery-channel-tutankhamen-dna.html

Here is a Coptic girl. Ancient Egypt was probably composed by mostly brown types like in quoted post, with a lesser but significant amount of Copt-types like in this pic-related. Like I said, throw in some Nubian-looking people (mix of black and brown) and a few berber-looking people and you have a fairly accurate picture.

Egyptian race didnt change much, if you go to egypt you will find the same set of faces that were in ancient egypt

Culturally Egypt become Arabic. But they still have always thought of themselves as being uniquely Egyptian rather than just being Arabs. Kind of like how even though Persians and turks adopted Islam and Arabic customs they still retained unique national identities. Racially Egypt is a mix of a ton of things but Arab conquest/migration didn't leave much of a genetic impact desu. According to their art and Greco-Roman sources lower Egyptians tended to be more fair skinned. There was a higher proportion of red and blonde haired people and probably some genetic admixture from Levantine peoples and possibly berbers. Upper Egyptians were darker skinned and had a higher proportion of east African and Nubian blood. And most likely were the largest ethnic group in Egypt according to their art. Greek sources claim that "Ethiopians are the darkest of men" and that Ethiopians resemble southern Indians while Egyptians resemble northern Indians. Which implies they didn't have the kinky/wooly hair associated with Africans and were probably remembered pic related. And remember OP. Even though other ethnic groups existed in Egypt, the southern Egypt ethnic group was most likely the most common since they drew Nubians as being much darker skinned, and Libyan and Levantines as being much whiter but still possessing a similar hair texture.

Obvious /pol/ thread, but Egyptians were neither white or black african. It's not a very hard question to answer.

They're the same people now as they were back then. Invading a settled population of several million with a couple thousand soldiers isn't going to leave a large genetic impact.

Early egyptians were semites, but race-mixing with greeks and romans made them more european from about 1000 bc on.

>What race was responsible for building one of the most complex super structures of the ancient world?

But that's not the Hanging Gardens of Babylon or the Tower of Babel (Etemenanki). Pyramids are the easiest kind of structures to build. They had some cool temples, statues and stuff, but Mesopotamian and Persian architecture was superior in general.

Native Americans

like just about every non colonial population, the genetics are more or less the same as they were then. The only thing that changed was the material culture

>Today, eygypt is an Arab country with no ties to its past but what is its racial past?
False. Today in Egypt, many people still do agriculture the same way ancient egyptians did, do pottery the same way, and the people there celebrate the beginning new harvest season (Sham el-Nessim). It's even named the same way as the ancient festival (Shemu). I'm not fully knowledgeable on the extent but even those few examples is far more than other people doing something related to the ancient people living in the land.

Modern genetic studies show this to be completely bullshit. The vast majority of Yemenis (especialyl Yemeni jews who were converts and were more extreme on not marrying anyone outside of their group) is the J1 Y DNA haplogroup. That's found in about 1/5 of Egyptians.

Also historically in Egypt, Arab bedouins were stopped from entering by an Arab leader because they were too many of them trying to get in. There was no genocide. Arabization is arguably from Nasser in the 1900s as an attempt to unite most of the region and fight off Western powers.

>Kind of like how even though Persians and turks adopted Islam and Arabic customs they still retained unique national identities.
No, it's not at all the same things. Egyptians view themselves as Arab. Persian and Turks don't. And Turks never got "ruled over" by Arabs in the same way Persians did. They were Persianized and were exposed to the religion by Iranians.

>Arab conquest/migration didn't leave much of a genetic impact des
Complete horseshit. A lot of bedouins migrated to Egypt when it became more open. There are still many Arab bedouin tribes in Egypt today. There was so much a ruler had to stop them from coming in.

>There was a higher proportion of red and blonde haired people and probably some genetic admixture from Levantine peoples and possibly berbers.

There wasn't. First, Berbers are not blondehaired except from some with European ancestry (Barbary pirates captured and sold lots of European slaves to North African coasts). Levantines of the past were not blonde at all. Red hair is present in the middle east today.

It's not the soldiers that had the impact, especially when they weren't even stationed in the cities. It's the bedouin tribes that migrated later.

No they weren't, they were an afro-asiatic speaking group like semitic groups but they were not semitic.

Those structures don't remain to be examined properly and the inner structure of Ancient Egyptian architecture is very impressive for its time.

>It's not the soldiers that had the impact, especially when they weren't even stationed in the cities. It's the bedouin tribes that migrated later
That makes even less sense. How do a bunch of rinkydink tribes replace a settled population of several million?

well it is thanks to black people that America made it to the moon and Egypt is in Africa so I assume the black African race was responsible

I never claimed there was a replacement. Learn to read. I said there wasn't any impact from the soldiers. The impact was from the bedouin migration. This is evidence genetically. Having an impact doesn't necessarily mean completely replacing a population.

And you have no evidence the population was not only several millions but also what the youth to senior ratio was in comparison to bedouin tribes. Nor are you even aware of the population growth of the native population in Egypt for hundreds of years. Protip: It didn't experience constant growth and actually could very well have experience a decrease at many times and stagnation.

Here's an interesting fact: Population of Egypt in 1805 was 4 million. And that's in the fucking 19th century.

Bedouin tribes would migrate in waves over many centuries and would migrate to cities. Arab Soldiers are stationed outside cities and numbered in the few thousands. If you can't understand which group would have more impact in the gene pool, you're retarded.

I don't know. A bunch of different kinds of people have always lived there.

>Complete horseshit. A lot of bedouins migrated to Egypt when it became more open. There are still many Arab bedouin tribes in Egypt today. There was so much a ruler had to stop them from coming in.
He meant to say that no mixing occurred. Today's Egyptians are largely the same as the ancient ones.

underrated posts and pretty much answers question.

>No, it's not at all the same things. Egyptians view themselves as Arab.
Culturally yes, genetically no. Copts dont at all. Pic-related are Copts. As you can see, not too different from majority muslim population in terms of phenotype.

And here is Hellenistic Egypt, centuries before Arab conquest. No Greek mixture either as studies have shown.

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>Egyptians view themselves as Arab.

westerners and the media view them as Arab. Pretty sure most people in the levant and NA don't view themselves as arabs except for political purposes.

no they identify as arab unfortunately.

Levantine-North African mix

>Levantines of the past were not blonde at all.

Those blond mummies beg to differ. They were egytian, but ethnically syriac. If there are blonds in the levant today, which there are, there's no reason to believe there weren't in ancient times. Because even if say blond hair came to the levant during medieval times from migrations from europe or circassia or something, then those same migration routes would have been taken in the more distant past too.

Semitic. Basically the same as what they look like today

Berber is not a race, its a language group and secondly the languages of Berber all today stem from a prestige dialect that split off quite recently

North African is not a race

Semitic is not a race it's a language

Blonde and red hair is the result of lime, my grandmother used it in Ethiopia and to this day Nilotics dye hair with lime-clay mixtures

The Egyptian people are a composite population derived from the Neolithic Subpluvial with later introgression with Southwest Asian and East African peoples. That's it.

this is a greek boy though
his name was Eutyches