Confession and Specificity

Catholicbros, how specific do I have to be when confessing the sin of porn?

I've watched and fapped to hentai and even porn with homosexual content. Do i have to specify those, or could i just say that I've masturbated to porn?

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You don't even need confession if you feel true guilt for your sins. Not sorrow because of your punishment, but a sorrow that comes from your love of God. God is always willing to open his arms to you as long as you are willing to accept him and follow his commands. Even death bed confessions and request for redemption can be heard if you do them for a love God and not a fear of punishment. And yes even Hitler.

>Former Catholic

So tell me about how your god needs you to tell somedude in a secluded and dark space about you touching your dick at night.

wait, isn't this salvation by faith without works?

Yes in case you can't tell religions conflict themselves often.

Two teachings that really conflicted as a catholic are

>Faith without works is dead

>God will never leave you no matter how much you sin. You reject God he doesn't reject you

Not him but that's what your supposed to do aren't you? Not through works, but by faith, and gods grace?

Also important to note I am not saying this from Vatican doctrine, but merely what my 12 years of catholic school and attending Mass have taught me.

Minor threadjack, but how do I stop hating my fellow Christians, or at least a sub-set of them? I really want to hit, or lock away, or just get rid of all those caricatures, you know the type, the bible thumping retards who insist that THE LORD SAYETH THIS AND YOU WILL BURN IF YOU DON'T ACCEPT MY HIGHLY SPECIFIC AND THOROUGHLY BASELESS INTERPRETATION.

It's so easy for the Fedoras and the Jews and the Muzzshits to take these people and claim that they're the real Christians, and that by extension any Christian is stupid and evil, and I hate them for making this vulnerability. What should I do?

Bumping for answer to OP.

often Catholics on Veeky Forums mock protestants for believing in salvation by faith without works.

You're wasting your time. If your salvation depended upon you being forgiven of each individual sin you committed, you are only aware of a small percentage of them.

Maybe it's time to realize that the only way sins are forgiven is by Jesus at the cross.

Maybe it's time to understand that your sins were forgiven you by God before you were born.

Maybe you have a different problem than a sin problem.

Maybe being dead is your problem. It is for about 95% of you, anyway.

Anyone who says they love God, but hate their brothers, is a liar and the truth is not in him.

I would say repent, and be saved, and until you do that, stop calling yourself a Christian.

Of course they do, as they belong to a works based cult. Cradle to afterlife control; birth in a catholic hospital, baptized as an infant, confirmed as a young adult, going to church every week, paying your tithe, making your confessions, paying your penance, mouthing your prayers, eating crackers, drinking juice; of course they mock people for believing the bible and not their manmade traditions.

They're as lost as the wiccans.

Fapping fodder for pedo priests, I would assume.

>still no actual answer to OP's question.

It's a troll question so shut up OP

It is not a troll question, it is a legit concern.

He's been told he's only feeding fapping info to pedo priests, and that act accomplishes exactly nothing good.

So yeah, he's been told.

Thats a troll/meme answer, not a real one.

It's quite real, actually.

Let's say there is one and only one pedo catholic priest in existence.

How many confessions did he hear, and how many sins did he get "forgiven"?

Because in the bible, the wages of sin is death.

But in the catholic church, the wages of sin is you have to tell some pedo what you did wrong, as though it were more awful than what the pedo priest did wrong that week.

Bump.

Hopefully with a reply from a Catholic.

You are saved by faith in the sacrifice of Christ. You develop faith by acts of grace and service to God. It's hard to get to faith without works. It's impossible to get to salvation without faith. Why does this kill the Catholic so easily?

>I've watched and fapped to hentai and even porn with homosexual content. Do i have to specify those, or could i just say that I've masturbated to porn?

Since the specifics clearly matter to you, they matter to an earnest confession. Omitting them would be misleading.

On the other hand, God isn't real and priests are sexual deviants.

This is not true, being in a state of heavy sin forbids you from receiving the Eucharist, which is the summit of all our life as Catholics. You can't take Communion without going to Confession.

To the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness, just as David also speaks of the blessing of the one to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works: “Blessed are those whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered; blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.”
Romans 4:5-8

There is no need for Confession, all sins are forgotten; God does not impute sin.

You need to confess to having looked at porn, or erotic material, and to having masturbated to it, since the act of looking lustfully at pornographic images is a sin, and then masturbating to those images is another sin. Masturbation is arguably the more serious sin, since it's always a mortal sin, while merely looking at porn starts as a venial sin, and only becomes mortal if you do it overmuch.

You should also probably confess that you've failed to avoid and resist temptation.

Confession is a sign of our seeking repentance and desiring not to sin in the future. It is an act of acceptance of Christ and his teachings, by which we more fully participate in the Church. God opens us to salvation, but we must choose it, because we have free will.

>Confession is a sign of our seeking repentance and desiring not to sin in the future
Confess your sins to Christ, and not an Alter Christus
>God opens us to salvation, but we must choose it, because we have free will.
Salvation was merited by the works of Jesus Christ, and by having faith in Him, that merit would be yours, and God would see no sin in you.

If you want the confession to "work", ie, you want to assuage the guilt you feel by pretending that god forgives you, then you need to be fairly specific, or at least specific enough that the adult man wearing a dress on the other side of the screen can understand sufficiently to cast his spell of forgiveness.

Or you could just accept that there is no god, and while fapping to anime might harm you-- by distorting your view of sexuality and thus making it less likely you will find meaningful romance in your life-- it isn't """wrong""" in any cosmic sense.

>when the priest asks you how to get past the sad panda

The priest is Christ for the purposes of Confession. He stands as Christ's representative, as all priests have done since the time of the Apostles.

confession does nothing God already knows and punishes you for it you beta bitches

Because they are not interested in the things of God, only in the things of their church (that they assume are the things of God).

Oh noes can't be a cannibal and vampire if whacking off.

wut do

If you're a catholic, it's just talking to a guy in the booth next to you.

That's all it is.

Blasphemy, thy name is Roman Catholicism.

That's simply false. Christ is present, with the priest as his intercessor.

Look, I get that you're trying to be an edgy atheist, but you're as wrong as a flat-earther.

>very glad I do t know what the sad panda is or what horrors lay behind it.

Jesus Christ is not present when one catholic sits next to another catholic, no.

Because you're not gathered in his name, and you are not filled with the Holy Spirit.

You rejected all of that and went for Catholicism instead.

Poor choice.

Jesus is as dead in your "church" as he is on the staff your false prophet carries.

oooo rekt

You protestants should realize that, for 1500 years before that fat German dude you all love so much came on to the scene, confession to priests was practiced by virtually all Christians, right?

protestants aren't Christian

This is true

>The priest is Christ
Antichrist
>He stands as Christ's representative
He seeks to be Christ's replacement
>as all priests have done since the time of the Apostles
The apostles were not priests, nor did they ordain any. There is no priesthood in the New Testament, but every believer is a priest, with one High Priest, one Mediator.

>hurrrrr we buhleeve only in tha bible

Now tell me how that Bible came into existence, because it sure as fuck didn't happen without church tradition

>tfw Catholics put the Bible together

I wonder what it's like to be a Protestant and realize that. It must be how /x/ feels when they think they've discovered proof of the Illuminati.

>Now tell me how that Bible came into existence
Men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

I'm never really super specific when confessing. I tend to generalize my sins for the most part so long as they hit the severity of them. For the most part, I don't worry too much since most priests have heard it all already and just about everything but the most specific stuff is simply passè to them.

I would group your sins by which commandment they would break, then go down one level or so. More specific than "I committed adultery against my future spouse," but less so than "I fapped to Shokai's loli collections 323 times last year."

Theologically, because Christ appointed his apostles to forgive sin for him on earth, and that appointment passed to the first bishops and priests. It's all been a continuation from there that there be some hierarchy to act as a mortal, flesh and blood stand-in for him to work through.

If you want a more secular answer, it's because confessing your sins to someone truly helps you to better confront them rather than simply falling into guiltless rationalizations or hopelessness of never being forgiven. In a way, priests sort of act as psychiatric help in early times helping people to confront their inner demons and attempt to overcome them.

To this day, priests are the best psychiatrists on Earth. I feel like this is part of the reason that practicing Catholics are such healthy, stable individuals. When they have something burdensome on their minds, they just go tell it to someone, and they're told it need bother them no more. That's extremely powerful.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_guilt

I'm a devout, practicing Catholic, and I do not understand "Catholic guilt" at all.

Yes, it's true that you have a cycle of sinning, confessing, being free from sin, then sinning, over and over again. It may at first glance seem somewhat Sisyphean.

It isn't, though, because God is with you all the while. God abides in your heart, and fills you with joy. He fills you with confidence, also, that if you confess your sins, you are forgiven, and washed spotless, like the Passover lamb. He likewise fills you with the urge to try and avoid sin, even though that seems like a hard thing to do. He fills you with "the peace of Christ, which surpasses all understanding."

Being Catholic, for me, is a light and joyful thing. I feel filled with the joy of the Lord. I feel called to obey his commandments, and all the teachings of the Church, simply because God is so great and so good that he's worth following. "For my yoke is easy and my burden is light."

>it's true that you have a cycle of sinning, confessing, being free from sin, then sinning, over and over again
I don't see that cycle in the New Testament. I see all one's sins being covered over by the sacrifice of Christ, since He is able to perfect all those who are being sanctified.

an assyrian put forth the suggestion of 4 gospels not a western christian

to call all early christians catholic or orthodox is bad sport

>to call all early christians catholic or orthodox is bad sport

Why? Aren't the Catholic and Orthodox Churches the direct descendants of the original Church? The Protestants are new. They're innovators. Don't pretend they're not.

point is divisions between catholics and orthodox did not existed back then. To call augustine catholic and say john chrysostom orthodox is oxymoronic.

Not a Catholic at all and I think the whole premise is retarded but have you tried actually asking a priest instead of these LARPing know it all 2 year convert wetwipes?

That's wrong though. The Protestants are reformers. They don't innovate, they get rid of innovations.

OP because I actually care about your soul, you need simply confess to masturbating to porn for most of your weird fetishes. The homosexual ones will need specific mentioning if you did it for the specific purpose of fapping to homo things. Number of times is also important. If you've lost track, you A) need to confess more often, and B) just say A lot.