I don't get how amerifags are so against socialism...

I don't get how amerifags are so against socialism. How can people so heavily criticise something that has never actually been tried?

>muh give me free shit, others will surely work so I don't have to
If you want to shitpost about fairytales, do it on a containment board like /bant/ or /s4s/

>free access to all goods and services according to (((needs)))
lol
you know why "real socialism" has never been tried?
because it's fantasy

The 'real' socialism would require ethnonationalism surely? People with shared history, culture, appearance etc.
How can people pull together when there are such massive differences between one another?

and how do you objectively measure what someone's "need" is?

therein lays your problem.

capitalism solves this by allowing you to fulfill your needs, or luxurious desires for that matter, so long as you produce and contribute to society yourself.

>Venezuela
>capitalism
kys

>Muh REAL socialism has never been tried!

Get the fuck out of here son.

Medicare, public housing, pensions, Trumpcare, SNAP should all be abolished am I right

The fact there have been dozens of Marxist leaders and not one has ever successfully implemented "real socialism" should be damning evidence against it working.

Yea I have an economic system where gold coins spew from fountains but never lose value, sandwiches magically appear in people's fridges, they work 20 hours a month, and every man has two blondes on each arm. Everyone has multiple sports cars and a megamansion. The only reason we don't have this system is that its NEVER BEEN TRIED.

See how retarded you sound?

Have you ever tried meditating?

lol @ everyone in this thread taking the bait

You should really trademark "never been tried" by this point.

So your country tries socialism and your retarded system fails, but that's okay because it wasn't real socialism. So you try again. So your country tries socialism and your retarded system fails, but that's okay because it wasn't real socialism. So you try again. So your country tries socialism and your retarded system fails, but that's okay because it wasn't real socialism. So you try again. So your country tries socialism and your retarded system fails, but that's okay because it wasn't real socialism. So you try again...

>Ad infinitum

>People on biz complain about whales using their already huge funds to make more money
>unironically support unrestricted capitalism

We didn't mind socialism, it's the socialists that we don't like.
The irony is they tend to be antisocial.

It is all proportional. A whale with a mil in a coin can lose or gain 50 k in a day. (5%+-)

A man with 20$ in still makes or loses the same proportion.

Portubro here
Can confirm socialism sucks nigger dick. Half my paycheck goes to druggies and hobos.
Also, hospitals are flodded with old people and hypocondriacs. Industry is still privatized, governemt makes a bad fund management, roads have holes and people have no incentives to do anything but a lazy farm life.
Fuck you you pinko commie nigers reeee

>See how retarded you sound?
Those are things you said...

it doesn't take into account the human condition.

we naturally look to leaders because we are afraid. we are sheep.

socialism has been tried. millions died.
it's always the same. kill yourself please. for the better of mankind.

Stupid people are not entitled to the fruits of my labor.

I like your parents' property user, they wouldn't mind if they were expropriated out of 9/10 of it, would they? I'm also happy to announce that we've devalued our currency 10:1 effective this morning, happy shopping and don't worry the people's government will cover your every need that you are unable to yourself ;)

yeah you should try it..... what could possibly go wrong

real capitalism has never yet existed, just give it a few more years and a few more tries, it will work, honest xx

it has but those times aren't part of living memory
crypto, nanotech, distributed energy generation and resulting voluntary cooperation between individuals will reinstate it

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Veeky Forums is one of the few board still mostly free of political shit. please fuck off and die.

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I really hope you don't have any money invested anywhere after saying this. Otherwise, you're a major fucking hypocrite

This is crypto territory. If you want socialism and government taking your money, Reddit is your place.

BECAUSE IF EVERYTHING IS "FREE" THERE'S NO INCENTIVE TO WORK YOU FUCKING DUMBASS.

Too bad humans are competitive beings faggot. I dont even read this piece of shit board but I had to reply. Nice b8

>socialism and government taking your money
>pays a fucking ton of taxes in capitalism

I don't get how no one ever offers an argument for socialism that doesn't insist that bad examples of socialism are "not true socialism".

>Implying socialism includes tax cuts

We've never been allowed to fully try and explore capitalism you moron. Name me one country which is using capitalism in its purest form. Protip: You can't.

TRUE Capitalism is what the world needs. Not crony capitalism, not "capitalism with socialist values and policies" and certainly not socialism or any form of liberalism.

Fuck off /leftypol/

You sure are economic illiterate
Stay poor commie

FPBP

all commies should go fuck themselves. crypto is free market get the fuck outta here retard faggots

How does socialism help the middle class/upper class?

This