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What are your thoughts on the Jewish beliefs in the Messiah and the prophecies that are supposed to be fulfilled by him?
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Samuel Cooper
> a bunch of tribals fuck over anybody and everybody who isn't them
> get murdered en masse and kicked out of every nation they inhabit for 3,000 years
> can't for the life of them figure out why
Zachary Stewart
Happy upcoming Passover to all our identifying jews.
I don't think the Messiah is a reasonable expectation anymore. He has to be of the Davidic line and he will restore the Davidic line to ruling class. And that line doesn't really exist anymore.
So it's a non-starter.
Anthony Ortiz
>We know that the Jews were prohibited from investigating the future. The Torah and the prayers instruct them in remembrance, however. This stripped the future of its magic, to which all those succumb who turn to the soothsayers for enlightenment. This did not imply, however, that for the Jews the future turned into homogeneous empty time. For every second of time was the strait gate through which the Messiah might enter.
Asher Miller
Jews are just followers of a religion created by some ancient semitic tribes that copied Zoroastrianism and wrote a Epic Poem called the Torah.
Robert Edwards
Happy Passover
True that proof of anyone being of the Davidic line is basically forgotten since the medieval times, which is why many Jews believe the Messiah is supposed to be revealed by G-d himself miraculously.
There's also a tradition that a person that is capable of becoming the Messiah exists in every generation, the latest one to have appeared to have the potential was the Rebbe but he always shot down any speculation of him being it
Owen Parker
What proof is there of Zoroastrianism predating ancient Israelite religion?
Christopher Ross
Jesus is the Messiah
Brody Jenkins
Zachary Garcia
Cool quote, where's it from?
Lincoln Harris
Do modern Jews still interpret the messiah as a military savior of Israel?
If so, how did Moshe Dayan not get a messianic cult around him?
Pic related.
en.wikipedia.org
"As commander of the Jerusalem front in the 1948 Arab–Israeli War, chief of staff of the Israel Defense Forces (1953–58) during the 1956 Suez Crisis, but mainly as Defense Minister during the Six-Day War in 1967, he became to the world a fighting symbol of the new state of Israel.[1]"
Carter Taylor
Walter Benjamin's 'Theses on the Philosophy of History'
Samuel Walker
Wait, part of it is that a temple will be built in Jerusalem. The temple was built.
Does that mean that the coming of Rome was the Jewish apocypse and it's actually all moot at this point?
Adam Long
The Second Temple was a sort of interim temple:
Hudson Johnson
The Messiah is supposed to be a great military leader that defeats all of Israel's enemies, the fact that Moshe Dayan could be seen as doing such is a good point and I am not sure whether people did see him as one being capable of such
Wyatt Jackson
It seems unlikely that it would have.
Though it's not true to say modern Judaism is older than Zoroastrianism.
Judaism is a 'natural' religion, it is the belief of a tribe, nobody invented it. Zoroastrianism was invented at a specific time.
Daniel Clark
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Opinion discarded
Camden Baker
>Judaism is a 'natural' religion, it is the belief of a tribe
>Not knowing that the Hebrews were polytheistic pagans in the time of Moses.
Joseph Wright
Judaism is closer to Shinto and Hinduism, they are tribal traditions later formalized and written down; than to Zoroastrianism and Christianity, religions based on the cult of personality around a founder or group or founders.
Of the designed religions, Judaism is closest in every measurable way to Islam - but there is a better claim that Judaism is the direct progenitor Christianity.
Ryder Ward
>is closest in every measurable way to Islam
>islam is not based on a cult of personality
lmao
Ryder Rivera
>>islam is not based on a cult of personality
>lmao
Is that what I said?
Camden Richardson
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Levi Long
>Of the designed religions, Judaism is closest in every measurable way to Islam
Because Islam basically copied Judaism and Christianity.
Judaism itself emerged around 1300BC, and was probably due to cultural exchanges with the Indo-Iranian civilization who were already more inclined towards monotheism.
Kevin Morales
>Because Islam basically copied Judaism and Christianity.
Yes, it did.
>Judaism itself emerged around 1300BC, and was probably due to cultural exchanges with the Indo-Iranian civilization who were already more inclined towards monotheism.
Probably true. I think it's likely that they were not monotheistic until after Babylon.
Ryan Reed
He said of the designed religions, it was closest to Islam, indicating Islam is a designed religion.
Nolan Rogers
why does The Jews still doesn't believe Jesus whom they crucified is the Messiah, I mean even the romans saw what happen after the Death of Jesus Christ on the cross right? The clouds getting darker, The temple of david trembling because of the earthquake,
why does still the chosen one, the children of God doesn't believe to their father? who sent them or US, the saviour? does his teachings are not enough to persuade you that He is, What He is.
is there a genuine Jew who could answer this?
Robert Diaz
>around 800 BC
FTFY
Logan Powell
>cultural exchanges with the Indo-Iranian civilization
Which Indo-Iranian civilization had contact with the Levant?
Parker Ross
AD 70 best year of my fucking life
Asher Hernandez
Thomas Anderson
True. Judaism/Monotheism wasn't completely accepted by the Hebrews in Moses' time.
The first Jewish Temple was built in 832BC.
Hebrew =/ Jewish
Angel King
thank you, my man