>'He later discovered from his librarian that his senior officers were mostly reading novels. He pronounced that novels were "for ladies and maids" and ordered the librarian, "Only give them history books.Men should read nothing else."
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Was Napoleon basically the main character of History? Atleast in the European Campaign
HAHA THIS GUY SAID THIS SO THIS PLACE I DONT LIKE IS REKT XDD
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lol its just a bit of board banter calm down mate
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Based Napoleon, one of my favorite historical figures. I'm reading Andrew Robert's Napoleon the Great right now, so I recognized the quote.
Pic related tho, shows the whole story
Were they erotic novels? Was Napolean hiding PORNOGRAPHY?
I've been caught out
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Yeah, sorry about that. But you post this at lit they'll never catch you, they're too busy reading ladies books.
How can one man be so based ?
Interestingly, novels were one area that women authors totally flourished, since it was a relatively new form without established cred. He wasn't alone in seeing novels as less worthy than histories or philosophical works.
Nor was he wrong. This is a point which deserves special emphasis.
Nor was he wrong.
>live in the days with the most world-shaping wars
>would rather sit in his maiden's attic and read novels
Autism through generations.
Interestingly enough, Napoleon's favorite book was The Sorrows of Young Werther. He was obsessed with it in his youth and often carried it around with him.
This is coming from the man who spent most of his time as a young officer reading angsty novels The Sorrows of Young Werther and going "wow, this is literally me." He brought the same book with him to Egypt and told a few people that he'd read it seven times.
Napoleon only said this later on because he was so embarrassed by his past he didn't want to be reminded of it. Literal chuunibyou.
they regarded sitting around reading novels similar to how we denigrate people for watching mindless junk on tv
Pinochet had almost no works of fiction in his library.
I doubt most of Veeky Forums even knows it exists. Veeky Forums is always full of new friends.
>Napoleon the massive hypocrit
OP blown out of his own thread
Reminder that Napoleon was an average military commander whose successes and strategies were completely hinged upon his enemies making mistakes
>tfw when there are grown (so-called) "men" that consider romance novels worthwhile, let alone insightful and "profound"
This is the place to discuss the authors that "touched" you.
>t. troglodyte who doesn't understand that all fiction at its core is a commentary on human behavior, and understanding human behavior is a necessary province of leadership
>thinks that all romance novels are sappy pulpy love stories
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So said user and proceeded to watch anime
This is true. Poetry is for men, novels (at least before Tolstoy and Flaubert) are for boys.
>implying capitalizing on your adversaries mistakes isn't strategy 101
I swear mankind gets dumber by the day
t. hegel
>Tolstoy on the same level as Flaubert
Flaubert is the French Henry James, Tolstoy is the Russian Tolkien.
Capitalizing on them isn't bad by any means. That's why he was a middling commander and not a bad one--after all, mistakes are common. But being completely and utterly dependent on your enemies to fuck up means you end up getting crushed by another average commander like Wellington who had the sense to just be cautious.
In other words: Napoleon was a one trick pony, not a genius.
So who's better?
t. college girls
Understanding and examining love is a noble goal my guy, it's just that romance novels are vapid as fuck
What is love?
bby don't hurt me
>Reminder that Napoleon was an average military commander whose successes and strategies were completely hinged upon his enemies making mistakes
Ton histoire est très apprécié, mon frère.
Your argument is absolutely retarded. Middling strategists don't end up redefining the basis of military thought for the next two hundred years.
>not t.roglodyte
One job, user
That is a question with almost as much depth as "What is the meaning of life" man, and the answers you get will probably tell you more about the person saying them than actual truth
(This sounds really goddamn psued but I couldnt think of a better way to phrase it)
Why there would be one? That seems stupid. Both boards kinda complete each other.
The dude lost in the end... not someone I want to take statesmanship advice from.
How can there be rivalries when you can post in both boards and nobody will realize?
I post in grand strategy general in Veeky Forums, in Veeky Forums, /pol/, sometimes /int/, I visit /tv/ from time to time, particularly during the Oscars season. I don't really belong to a single board, although I have to say I feel like Veeky Forums might be one of my favorites.
>tfw you remember the time before Veeky Forums existed
Very sad times
I find that novels that discuss romance as a theme are good but those that pander to romantic emotions are bad. For example, the Great Gatsby has a big theme of love but it doesn't give you a hard-on while you read. It just genuinely considers the topic.
Name someone who won.
I just read that! It's so good!
It's obviously written with a heavily pro Napoleon slant (there's a line comparing the basically politically motivated marriage between him and Josephine to the romance of Romeo and Juliet, and there isn't an atrocity commited that Roberts doesn't attempt to explain away) but that's exactly what makes it so fun. His affection is super infectious.
The roughest part is the return from Moscow (spoiler: it was bad) but it actually cheers up considerably through the end. Him returning from Elba before Waterloo is super exciting, and even his eventual exile at St. Helena is a lot of fun to read.
The guy who wrote it is a Tory, and in my experience (as a Marxist) reading dishonest conservatives is way more fun than reading dishonest Leftists. Once you pick up on his prejudices, the book becomes a lot more fun to read, because you can watch him sort of bullshit in real time as the narrative unfolds.
The promotional stuff makes a big point of Roberts visiting most of the battlefields where Napoleon fought, which I don't know if it gives him the incredible perspective they claim, but nonetheless makes the battles all the more readable. I have a hard time following the play-by-play of battles, but he does a good enough job of describing the broad strokes that they're enjoyable. The description of political intrigues is also really well done, illuminated by a bunch of Napoleon's letters which were recently released.
I get that you posted the OP as a bit of a joke, but it's true that the fact Napoleon read a bunch of history is one of the things that probably made his ascendency in the French military possible. (It probably also helped that everybody who might have been a general had just been guillotined in the French Revolution.) He also was one of a small number of people who took interest in artillery, which were increasingly becoming a decisive factor in contemporary battles.
Anyway enjoy
this board is THE newfag board
the fact it was created recently meant it's just become an outpost for redditors and polnormies
It can't be that newfag when it doesn't show up on the list at the top.
>faux historian starter pack
>world shaping wars
No that's the ancient world, everything afterwards relied on them
no. all the pseudo intellectuals aka redditors are drawn to pseudo intellectual boards like Veeky Forums or Veeky Forums where they can discuss shitty pop sci and shitty philosophy memes. Veeky Forums is a high IQ version of /pol/ where there's more actual discussions
kek
you're clearly new and probably from /pol/
no. you're wrong again and judging by your reply you're new to Veeky Forums
>Identifying yourself with a board on an imageboard for Japanese cartoons.
Not saying you do this, but if you do then you should have a hard look in your mirror and think about where everything went to hell.
I visit 10 boards yet I'd never identify myself as one of those because a normal human bean don't use Veeky Forums as an extension of their identity (as in, public identity) for several reasons, most so obvious I don't have to name them.
t. takes memes very seriously
Chocolate.
>implying he didn't mean they should be studying history to get better at war and that novel reading is for leisure time, not BTFO'ing Europe time
This, Sorrows of Young Werther was basically the Twilight of its time, mostly critically panned but massively popular and with a huge emo culture surrounding it.
Nice to see my thread is still alive
Also for reference this was said on the boat to Eygpt
Yeah, you can see how he just adores Napoleon. Well, but I kinda do too now. I'm at the part where he becomes Emperor.
It's probably one of my favorite books now. Makes me unironically want to stop reading fiction
I'm originally from gaia =^______^=
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LOL when he read Goethe's Werther 7 times, and wrote deliciously edgy, but completely dreadful fanfic tier novels/essays himself.
thb i'm still baffled as to how well he took it when he learned he was getting cucked
>book about a dude who meets a girl and gets sad
Reminder that oneitis and determination are the emotional combinations that create Napoleons.