Uh, hello everyone, I hope this is the right board... I was wondering how I would determine who owns the trademark or copyright to a little N64 game called Aerogauge. It was developed by Locomotive games and Published by ASCII entertainment. Locomotive games was sold to THQ, but THQ went out of business.
Who owns it now? How would I find out who owns it?
This is the right board, but good luck getting an answer for anything that isn't crypto related right now. You could try doing a US trademark or copyright search.
Wyatt Wilson
Sorry I can't help more. I tried doing a little trademark search but I don't really know what I'm doing. I've actually emailed the CEO of Nordic games before and he answered in like 24 hours so you could try that.
Anthony Parker
Pardon, but who would I send an email to? I'm guessing admin, but I do not know for sure.
Xavier Richardson
I got ahold of him at lawi et gameoutlet.se
Zachary Hall
That's his email? Alright, seems weird emailing a CEO of a company
Matthew Barnes
Another bump I guess. More information couldn't hurt.
Jack Ortiz
Anybody at all? Oh well, i'll wait for a response from THQnordic
Wyatt Williams
it doesn't seem like thq nordic acquired the aeroguage ip, what are you planning on making?
Andrew Parker
I want to make a sequel to it, or something. No real plans, but even though it's objectively mediocre, it holds a place in my heart, and I want to make something better than the original.
Bentley Phillips
damn if youre this far looking for them then it might be the thing for ya
Andrew Cook
What do you mean?
Austin Morgan
as far as i can tell, THQ filed for bankruptcy and auctioned off a lot of their properties, but it doesn't seem anyone bought Locomotive Games IPs. I'd say go for it, there appears to be no one with legal right to stop you
Michael Kelly
Alright, I just want to be sure before I do so, but this mean I could name it Aerogauge 2 if I wanted? A direct sequel? Not that I'd name it that, it sounds dumb.
Oliver Roberts
I emailed the company that Don Traeger, the former owner of Locomotive Games works at. Hopefully he responds.
Michael Phillips
Nice work OP. Make your dreams come true. Now if someone could make a modern Extreme G...
I'm not too sure I'm going to get a response, though. This website is super weird, what does it do? What is his company for?
Cooper Anderson
It looks like he hasn't revealed this company to the public yet lol. hence "stealth mode"
Brody Cox
from what little research i've done, i can't see a reason why you wouldn't be able to. the company dissolved so i don't think anyone has a right to the IP. although, that might mean you're not allowed to have it either. either way go for it, worst case scenario you get hit with a cease and desist
Aiden Bell
For 6 years?
David Torres
if i were you i'd go to Veeky Forums, find /agdg/, and ask them about it, they'd know more about your specific question than anyone here i'd imagine
Carter Jenkins
Alright, thank you very much for your help.
Nolan Reyes
I thought I was the only 1 that played this game.
Aaron Scott
I did too, I am making threads on /v/ about it and people say they've played it and liked it. But, that's for /v/, not Veeky Forums
John Bennett
YES DUDE. Ive been saying this forever
Ayden Miller
Doesn't really work like that. You'll need to purchase the rights to it from the former rights holder. Companies usually have securities firms handle this sort of thing I believe. Don't expect it to be that cheap, OP.
Brayden Hernandez
How expensive? Are we talking 6 figures here?
Hudson Parker
That game is sick. Buy ARK, faggot.
Jason Carter
What's ARK?
Mason Jones
Hello, worked for a games company that folded and I own my own IP and trademarks. So when the company went under even if the rights weren't sold they would be held by whatever company managed the assets through liquidation. Your best bet would be to contact people who worked high up at the original publisher. You can find people with some googling, try get the credits off mobygames and find them on LinkedIn. Ask if they remember what company handled the liquidation then contact them. You might even be able to just google the information from local news when the development studio closed as it's sometimes made public when other ip sales were made.
Honestly you sound like you don't really know what you're doing if you think it's odd to contact a CEO over something like IP. If I was you I'd make a spiritual successor, a homage and purchase the trademark in areas where it's obtainable ( I checked the UK and nobody owns the trademark). Just make sure the game is all your own code and art assets and you'll be fine as far as copyright goes. You could call it aeroguage, not even aeroguage 2.
Camden James
AEROGAY
John Parker
Thank you, but ASCII is a Japanese company. I don't know Japanese.
Trademarks expire when no longer used in commerce.
Federal registration in the US gets you 10 years even if not in use, but you must renew your registration or the trademark will be released for use again.
I checked the TESS database for you, Ascii / Locomotive don't appear to even have ever filed for a trademark in the US.
Ryan Myers
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Parker Long
You beautiful bastard. Thank you so much. I have no fucking clue and it's creeping me out
Brayden Edwards
Memorable thread.
Dominic Bennett
Someone should screen cap it
William Perry
Precisely.
Jordan Scott
Today Veeky Forums was used for something business related
Cooper Baker
I still wanna know what this is though...
Kevin Ward
Searching the USPTO comes up with no results for "aerogauge" or "aero gauge", so that means this name was never trademarked. Obviously the game's content is still copyrighted, but actual game mechanics aren't patentable, so you can legally make a clone of this game and sell it, possibly even under the same name. If you want to be completely safe though, just name it something else and change the graphics and music just enough to be considered original works, and you'll be in the clear.
Bentley Davis
I see. I was kinda hoping to be able to use vehicles, or at least remake them.
Alexander Morris
I just looked up a video of it and the game's art looks like a ripoff of f-zero, so I'm sure you remaking their vehicles wouldn't be any less original than them "remaking" f-zero's vehicles.
Jason Gonzalez
Don't talk badly about it ;-; they have backstories you know...
James Watson
Wow this is honestly going great! Thank you all!
Jason James
WOW THIS IS HONESTLY NOT GOING GREAT.
Connor Wood
Where do I go from now? There is even less information on Locomotive Co Ltd than Locomotive Games.
Nathan Lopez
Find some names and start sending emails. Talk to anyone you can find.
Evan Foster
Because they may not even be an entity anymore it is likely a non-issue.
Typically companies send cease-and-desist letters first if they believe that their i.p. is being infringed upon before launching directly into a lawsuit.
Likely you can start to develop a labor-of-love sequel and you will probably be just fine, if they somehow track you down and demand that you stop, worry about it then.
Aaron Turner
I need to find Don Traeger, the co-founder of Locomotive Games, even if he didn't develop it he'd have some information.
Jonathan Parker
Lol. Good luck dealing with Japs.
Luke Flores
>tfw can't even choose to get fucked by the japs because I don't speak japanese
Jesus, you're pretty good. How did you find these out again?
Anthony Wood
facebook is /don.traeger i have a home address if you need that too
Brayden Sanders
That'll be alright, but damn, thank you so much.
Josiah Sanchez
I love when Veeky Forums isn't just crypto shilling.
Nathaniel Lewis
There are a ton of different antigravity racing type franchises, I'm sure noone would bat an eye if you just made some hovercraft flying game and called it something else.
Liam Collins
there WERE a ton now there's like Wipeout and that's it