What does Veeky Forums think of the ancient Macedonians? For some reason, reading about them, i don't get the feeling they were ancient Greek. To me they seem more like Hellenized Thracians ruled by Greek kings, or Kings roleplaying as Greeks. So little is known about them, and what is known was written by Greeks that its almost impossible to have any conclusive evidence on their "ethnicity". Can Veeky Forums give me a decent answer on them? Preferably without int memes, and preferably about them before Philip, help me shake this feeling that they were barbarians larping as greeks off.
Ancient Macedonians
Dylan Roberts
Chase Thomas
Why would I help you shake the feeling they were larping barbarians? That is correct..
Camden Wilson
They definitely weren't Greeks, one of the kings got the title 'philhellene' for his adoration of the Greeks and they weren't part of the various Panhellenic games. Iirc they even used non-Greek words in the administration of the Hellenic empires
Caleb Davis
Because everyone flips out when someone implies the Macedonians weren't Greek, but they are so different, so irrelevant, until Philip to the Greeks that i can't bunch them together, if they were Greek than the Thracian's might as well be Greek and the Illyrians as well. I can't find any real evidence of them using hoplite warfare, pre Philip Macedonia was apparently a bunch of Nobles charging each other on ponies.
Sebastian Reyes
Phillip apparently was a triggered by the fact the Greeks (quite rightly) branded him a barbarian. It is kind of like black people today pretending they are civilized human beings when they are just not.
It is an oddity in human nature that people just can't accept that they are not genuine people who really matter.
Carter Lopez
my friend
Macedon has a proud warrior heritage, they're easily my favorite total war faction. I have read almost 4 books about them and they fascinate me. Alexander the Great is literally perfect and your should always ask what Alexander would have done. I don't appreciate the tone of your comment, so I'm blocking you from my channel. You could say I'm hammering you on my anvil, just like my boy Alex would have done ;^)
this is Prince of Macedon signing off
Jordan Roberts
The Makedonians were Hellenised barbarians, but Phillip and his royal line (the Argeads) was 100% Greek.
Adam Rogers
>Why would I help you shake the feeling they were larping barbarians? That is correct..
>They definitely weren't Greeks, one of the kings got the title 'philhellene' for his adoration of the Greeks and they weren't part of the various Panhellenic games. Iirc they even used non-Greek words in the administration of the Hellenic empires
>Phillip apparently was a triggered by the fact the Greeks (quite rightly) branded him a barbaria
Then why is it that Greeks today see the Macedonians as the epitome of Greekness, and why on earth every single documentary calls them Greeks, sometimes even to the point of not calling them Macedonian, it surely can't be because of Alexander spreading Hellenism? I always thought most people thought the Greekness of the Macedonians wasn't disputable, especially on Veeky Forums.
Daniel Morgan
They were on the very fringe of Hellas (what greek considered their sphere of influence), mostly influenced by the thracians who were delian league faggots (and athenianboos). They were relatively "backward" compared to the other greek poleis, their politic system was essentially feudal with local barons fighting each other (as well as their northern neighbours the illyrians and dardanians) and their king held very little real power. As border/frontier people, they were essentially a buffer zone. Ethnically they weren't greek, who were mostly dorians or ionians. In a nutshell they were barbaros that the greeks were familiar with and regularly used as mercenaries. Greeks were fairly cautious and ambivalent about them as they were working for the persians during the 490-479BC war.
Levi Campbell
>Then why is it that Greeks today see the Macedonians as the epitome of Greekness, and why on earth every single documentary calls them Greeks, sometimes even to the point of not calling them Macedonian, it surely can't be because of Alexander spreading Hellenism?
Yes, it is literally because of that.