Did the Mongolian Empire do anything good for the world, or are they just a bunch of murdering hobos?
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Jack Bennett
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Chase Walker
This might sound extremely euro-centric but they "re-opened" the Silk Road and Asian trade with Europe, so it can be reasonable assumed they introduced(or at least introduced the vector for) the Black Death to West.
That helped develop certain immune systems and genetic dispositions towards it, and (sooner or later) Europe learned that "hey maybe it helps if we dont have shit everywhere"
They also killed like 40 million people in the day of swords and arrows so that's cool too
Liam Anderson
Brought plague faster and to newer areas.
Jordan Russell
No.
>Religious freedom
Killing everyone and allowing them to be buried however they want is hardly religious freedom. Besides, they were just apathetic most of the time, not purposely tolerant. They wiped out religious sects that opposed them and murdered the Caliph of Baghdad. What freedom did exist either already existed (in China) or was revoked when Mongol rulers started converting.
>trade
Not much trade when sedentary society is destroyed. The Mongols caused economic collapse where they ruled due to destructive land and taxation policies, population decline and the destruction of cities. Opening up trade routes, which already existed anyway, didn't do much to fix this.
>Technology
There's no solid evidence that the Mongols actually used gunpowder outside of China, so they can't really be credited with its spread. They did introduce the counterweight trebuchet to China, but so what?
Jaxon Lee
Actually I just remembered, they did found the Maragheh observatory in Iran which was pretty cool. Not sure it makes up for destroying Baghdad though.
Carter Bell
How do modern day victims of the Mongols view Genghis Khan and his empire? Does this damage Mongolia political relations with them?
Xavier Cruz
They helped the environment.
Nathan Jenkins
I'm Chinese, and most Chinese people are indifferent to them. I guess 700 years are enough for most people to not care about it.
They have pretty nice barbecues tho.
Henry Hall
2 major contributions:
1: bowed instruments that lead to violins, cellos, etc which sound pretty
2: fermented vegetables for long trips.
That's pretty much it. And throat singing whichbis pretty neat
Austin Price
Facilitated trade in a big way
Luke Ross
Paki. We like to wewuz as them because "Khan" is a popular surname here and because of the Mughal empire
Ryan Perry
It lifted the monopoly of gun powder allowing the information to travel west more easily
Bubonic plague led to social reform in Europe along with new philosophies
Those two things arguably allow for future European domination, and due to the end result of colonialism, it could be said the mongols were a necessary evil for current world prosperity
Cameron Johnson
I think Indian countries often hate him because he kinda murdered a crapload of them. Chinese people don't really care that much because after he killed and conquered them the Mongols assimilated into their culture so it was a win for them I suppose.
Cooper Bennett
I dunno about that. Some Chinese people are all like, "the Yuan was not an actual dynasty".
Luke Diaz
I mean, if the Yuan was not an actual dynasty,then we can't boast about our 4000 years of history, since China would have fell then.
Samuel Cooper
Almost destroyed islam.
Cameron Rodriguez
>He doesn't know about religious debates in Khan's court
Jace Barnes
Ended a long period of instability and infighting in Iran, and the il-Khans were great patrons of the arts and sciences.
Carter Edwards
>Almost destroyed Islam
>descendants convert to Islam and conquer vast territory in the name of Allah
Allah truly is the greatest
Jose Miller
>indian countries
Jack Rogers
>"re-opened" the Silk Road and Asian trade
thats retarded revisionism
the silk road was eons before and wasnt interrupted. the radhanites are one of the silk roaders that were destroyed by the ongoloids
Wyatt Russell
>This might sound extremely euro-centric
Nah, just extremely stupid.
Jacob Scott
It ended infighting because they were all fucking dead. Many scholars claim that Iran didn't reach pre-Mongol population levels until the 20th century.
Parker Rodriguez
>Did the Mongolian Empire do anything good for the world,
Nnnng.
>or are they just a bunch of murdering hobos?
That's the one.
Jose Carter
you know when your system kinda works, but something is wrong
and you decide to format it anyway
those were the mongols
it was a good thing, a purge
we need another
Ethan Fisher
I think this is the result of a cultural stockholm syndrome where conquered people internalise the identity of their ruling dynasty.
It's my understanding most Mongol dynasties collapsed long after they had sort of integrated with the local people, so there's less of a concept of "us beating them" or taking back your country.
Liam Perry
India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka.
Jose Morales
Pakistan is the part of India that was ruled by later turco-mongol dynasties and not conquered substantially during the initial wave by genghis.
Cooper Flores
the only people who don't consider pakis indians are pakis and indians
>t.ahmed or sanjay
pakistan is an indian country, deal with it, more so than sri lanka seeing as the latter wasn't part of the indian raj
also you missed the maldives and nepal