ITT: Degeneracy throughout history

ITT: Degeneracy throughout history

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banquet_of_Chestnuts
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Gein
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Zhou_of_Shang
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daji
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>Abe began work as a prostitute in Osaka's famous Tobita brothel district, but soon gained a reputation as a trouble-maker.

I've been to this district - it was creepy as fuck. Fuck Nippon.

King James Bible

For she doted upon their paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue is like the issue of horses.

Elegabalus.

Literally everything he did of note.

Tiberius Claudius Nero the younger as well.

*Teleports behind you*

This guy was called "The Wickedest Man in the World" for a reason, apparently he forced one of his initiates to ejaculate inside a goat while it was being decapitated.

This. Nothing in all of Asia is as degenerate as the Bible.

3 But he insisted so strongly that they did go with him and entered his house. He prepared a meal for them, baking bread without yeast, and they ate. 4 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the house. 5 They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.”

6 Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him 7 and said, “No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing. 8 Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don’t do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.”

In Hindemith's Weimar era opera Neues Vom Tage the soprano is naked and sings about plumbing. They really need to perform it more often imo.

What was creepy about it?

wtf I love hitler now

Weimar Germany truly was a golden age

>Cleopatra reportedly had her first lover at twelve and built a temple where she kept male lovers drugged with performance boosters. She also purported had 100 lover in a single night, slept with her slaves, and heavily taxed or killed some men after the love-making was over. She learned many tricks it is said from courtesan at an Alexandria bordello. The Romans, who wanted to portray Cleopatra in the worst light possible light, were the source of many of these stories. In reality it is thought she spent much of her time sleeping alone and was busy managing her kingdom to indulge in too much debauchery.
factsanddetails.com/world/cat56/sub366/item2034.html#chapter-6

lmfao gay cuck jews

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_the_Western_Roman_Empire

this sounds like a story

elaborate

>ywn have trap emperor waifu

weird. i was JUST thinking about this lady not 10 minutes ago and here I see a thread about her

Princess with a reverse harem:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liu_Chuyu

Probably triggered that prostitution is a thing in his grorious nippon

*tips katana folded 1000 times over*

>Let my fond lips but drink thy golden wine,
>My bright-eyed Arab, only let me eat
>The rich brown globes of sacramental meat
>Steaming and firm, hot from their home divine,
>And let me linger with thy hands in mine,
>And lick the sweat from dainty dirty feet
>Fresh with the losse aroma of the street,
>And then user I’ll glue my mouth to thine.

What did he mean by this?

noice

Why is Japan filled with shit like this?
>Person commits gruesome murder.
>OMG LET US GIVE HIM/HER A SHORT PRISON SENTENCE, CELEBRATE HIS/HER ACTIONS, AND WRITE PHILOSOPHY, ARTWORK, AND FILMS BECAUSE OF IT.

Seriously, same shit with guy who cannibalized a Swedish woman. Fuck this country's "crime rates."

> However, even though Chu was ordered to attend her for more than 10 days, and she tempted him throughout that period, he refused to have sexual relations with her, and she released him.

She probably looked like a walrus.
That or she had the herp.

The cannibal was given a short sentence because of visa troubles regarding him being tried in France or Japan.

Emperor Liu "I like brown butts and I cannot lie" Jixing of the Southern Han during the Five Dynasties and 10 Kingdoms period (900s AD China).
>When Liu became Emperor, he was sixteen years old. During reign, he spent most of his time having sexual intercourse with women, including Persian women (波斯女子)who were prominent in his harem
>His particular favourite was one young girl he nicknamed "beautiful sow" or "Seductive Pig" (媚猪) (Mei Zhu or Mei Chu).[4] Liu doted on this young Persian woman,[5][6][7] who was also reportedly sixteen years old. The Persian girl was called a "princess".
>Liu liked the Persian girl (Mei Zhu) because of her brown skin color. He and the Persian girl also liked to forced young couples to go naked and played with them in the palace.
>Descriptions of the sexual activities between Liu Chang and the Persian woman in the Song dynasty book the "Ch'ing-i-lu" by T'ao Ku were so graphic that the "Memoirs of the Research Department of the Toyo Bunko (the Oriental Library), Issue 2" refused to provide any quotes from it while discussing the subject

>so graphic that the "Memoirs of the Research Department of the Toyo Bunko (the Oriental Library), Issue 2" refused to provide any quotes from it while discussing the subject
l-lewd...

If you read the wikipedia article it details the why, pretty much postwar Japan was given the Persian-Lydia treatment.

Reminds me of the boat orgies on artificial wine rivers in Zhou times

I was looking at this and had to pause to think about what the fuck I just read.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banquet_of_Chestnuts

All of austrian history

>Persian-Lydia treatment

What is this?

I have to find the quote, but it essentially is what happened to post-war Japan and Germany, and eventually America

Found it, pg 154 of Herodotus' Histories
Essentially the Lydians had revolted against the Persians, and Croesus was attempting to calm Cyrus and prevent him from genociding them.

Here is the background text, the answer to your question will be in the next post

> Cyrus said to Crœsus as follows: "Crœsus, what end shall I find of these things which are coming to pass? The Lydians will not cease as it seems, from giving trouble to me and from having it themselves. I doubt me if it were not best to sell them all as slaves; for as it is, I see that I have done in like manner as if one should slay the father and then spare his sons: just so I took prisoner and am carrying away thee, who wert much more than the father of the Lydians, while to the Lydians themselves I delivered up their city; and can I feel surprise after this that they have revolted from me?" Thus he said what was in his mind, but Crœsus answered him as follows, fearing lest he should destroy Sardis: "O king, that which thou hast said is not without reason; but do not thou altogether give vent to thy wrath, nor destroy an ancient city which is guiltless both of the former things and also of those which have come to pass now: for as to the former things it was I who did them and I bear the consequences heaped upon my head; and as for what is now being done, since the wrongdoer is Pactyas to whom thou didst entrust the charge of Sardis, let him pay the penalty.

And here is the answer- applied numerous times throughout history to conquered peoples.

But the Lydians I pray thee pardon, and lay upon them commands as follows, in order that they may not revolt nor be a cause of danger to thee:--send to them and forbid them to possess weapons of war, but bid them on the other hand put on tunics under their outer garments and be shod with buskins, and proclaim to them that they train their sons to play the lyre and the harp and to be retail-dealers; and soon thou shalt see, O king, that they have become women instead of men, so that there will be no fear that they will revolt from thee."

Sound familiar?

>In the aftermath of World War II, wishing to divert public attention from politics and criticism of the occupying authorities, the Yoshida government encouraged a "3-S" policy — "sports, screen, and sex".

Which really was the American policy. And look what it did to Japan- it emascualted the country. Would you say this phenomenom seems to be happening in all Western countries?

>156. Crœsus, I say, suggested to him this, perceiving that this was better for the Lydians than to be reduced to slavery and sold; for he knew that if he did not offer a sufficient reason, he would not persuade Cyrus to change his mind, and he feared lest at some future time, if they should escape the present danger, the Lydians might revolt from the Persians and be destroyed. And Cyrus was greatly pleased with the suggestion made and slackened from his wrath, saying that he agreed with his advice.

Fug didn't greentext the quote.

Remember anons "those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it".

Thank you, user

You're welcome user. Remember these when you hear someone promoting some form of emasculation of the citizenry, that this is merely an old method of reducing the populace to unwitting slaves.

Imagine the Asian gay men working as male prostitutes

Imagine how butt hurt the Asian nationalists are about them

>He liked the Persian girl because of her brown skin color

>no Catherine
I know it's mostly propaganda, but it's still hot

This probably didn't happen. That said, the Borgias were still ridiculously corrupt and degenerate

>In reality it is thought she spent much of her time sleeping alone and was busy managing her kingdom to indulge in too much debauchery.

Because if itsnt the bad extreme it will be the good one!

HISTORY EVERYONE!

Also no sentence starts with because, because; because is a conjunction.

In The Realm of the Senses is a great movie.

good taste

> The first day of Abe's trial was November 25, 1936, and by 5 a.m. crowds were already gathering to attend.[2] The judge presiding over the trial admitted to being sexually aroused by some of the details involved in the case, yet made sure that the trial was held with the utmost seriousness.[9]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Gein

According to Liu Xiang’s book Lienü zhuan written much later, around 18 BCE, Jie was corrupted by his infatuation with his concubine Mo Xi (妺喜 or 末喜), who was beautiful, but completely lacking in virtue. Among other things, she liked to drink, enjoyed music, and also had a penchant for jugglers and sing-song girls. Apparently, she had Jie order a lake of wine made. They both sailed about in the alcohol lake in an orgy of drunken naked men and women bathing and drinking. She then commanded 3,000 men to drink the lake dry, only to laugh when they all drowned.

Conservative and even somewhat liberal Thai men despise the sex business for turning their country into the the literal fucktoy of the world's perverts

90% of the stories about Elagabalus are probably bullshit, Romans just love their smear campaigns.
See:

This old fucking story is repeated for almost every "decadent" ruler too. They can't even keep the details straight:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Zhou_of_Shang
One of the most famous forms of entertainment Zhou enjoyed was the "Wine Pool and Meat Forest" (酒池肉林). A large pool, big enough for several canoes, was constructed on the Palace grounds, with inner linings of polished oval shaped stones from the sea shores. This allowed for the entire pool to be filled with alcohol. A small island was constructed in the middle of the pool, where trees were planted, which had branches made of roasted meat skewers hanging over the pool. This allowed Zhou and his friends and concubines to drift on canoes in the pool. When they thirsted, they reached down into the pool with their hands and drank the wine. When they hungered, they reached up with their hands to eat the roasted meat.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daji
He gathered 3000 guests [note the reference to 3000 guests again] at one party to indulge in his "pond of wine" and "forest of meat". He allowed the guests to play a cat and mouse game nude in the forest to amuse Daji.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creations_of_Daji
To start things off within the Wine Pool, fifty maidens and fifty eunuchs would be chosen as a set. One maiden would be tied to one eunuch forming an overall pair of fifty. After being thrown into the pool, each individual pair would have to drink the pool's wine and perform swimming tricks within the water. Once each pair is readily drunk, they would be set within the Meat Forest and enjoy an abundance of cooked duck, roasted pig, and so forth. Once the sun sets into the west, a few of the chosen fifty pairs would be beaten to a bloody pulp and secretly fed to Daji as to ease her need for human flesh to survive.

i thought that looked suspicously like a nipple belt but fucking hell

i suppose his story has influenced a lot of horror movies

>found guilty but also found to be legally insane
>let's put him in a mental institution and support him for 20-30 years on taxpayers' money until he finally dies of cancer

Our society NEEDS more high budget historically based porn

What the fuck is up with Chinese and pools of wine?

Makes me wonder if there's any Chinese CEOs these days with an indoor swimming pool full of baijiu or something...

>ywn be a young emperor with a harem of Persian qts
Why live?

According to some quick calculations, a 25ftx10ftx6ft pool would cost about $875,000 to fill with wine at $15 dollars for a bottle of 750ml. I doubt anyone looking to do this would go cheaper on the wine.

I can see a billionaire doing that for a swanky party but 99.9% of it is going to be wasted (not that they'd care) given the volume is 43,900 liters.

>When the details of the crime were made public, rumors began to circulate that Ishida's penis was of extraordinary size; however, the police officer who interrogated Abe after her arrest denied this, saying, "Ishida's was just average. [Abe] told me, 'Size doesn't make a man in bed. Technique and his desire to please me were what I liked about Ishida.'"[40] After her arrest, Ishida's penis and testicles were moved to Tokyo University Medical School's pathology museum. They were put on public display soon after the end of World War II, but have since disappeared.[9][44]
I really do wonder what happened to his cock. Did someone steal it?

Napoleon's sister, Pauline Bonaparte (1780 –1825) shocked society. She enjoyed one lover so much, she was diagnosed with 'vaginal distress'

How are you going to float several canoes on a pool that small? Assume 3-4 canoes and I'd go with something at least twice as big.

I want to cure her distress

You won't be paddling around all that much but canoes have a length of about 15ft and a with of about 3. You could definitely get 3 canoes floating around. If it were a specially made pool it would only have to be like one foot deep rather than 6 so you could greatly increase the surface area for the same price. You could get a lot of canoes on a pool 60'x25'x1'

Slut-eyes.

"...Pauline later found what she wanted in a mightily endowed thirty-year-old painter, Louis Philippe Auguste de Forbin, with whom she copulated endlessly at the expense of her health...." (Hamilton, 2003, p. 81)

"Pauline, however, managed to bounce from one extreme to the other. Back in Paris, she fell for Louis Philippe Auguste de Forbin, a society painter. He was reportedly hugely well endowed and Pauline could not get enough of hi; but his size caused her acute vaginal distress. A doctor was called in, who found the poor girl on the verge of exhaustion. Her uterus was swollen by constant excitement and her vagina was showing signs of damage due to friction. For the sake of Pauline's health, Forbin was persuaded to join the army and was posted out of harm's way." (Sex Lives of the Great Dictators: 9)

"She was the loveliest woman I ever beheld; there was not the slightest imperfection in her delicious face, to which was joined an elegant figure and the most seductive grace. She was an incomparable beauty, but she had little or no instruction, no conversational powers, and her manners were exceedingly dissolute. . . ." (The Marriages of the Bonapartes, Volume 2: 227)

"She [Pauline, Napoleon's favourite sister was a born cocotte. Created a princess, she lived like a courtesan, and yet of all the tribe of pinch beck kings and queens and princesses, moved over the European chess-board by a ruthless player, she is the most warmly human and vivid, with a touch of the Napoleonic fire.... She reduced her lovers to abject slaves. At a picnic she commanded one of her court to lie on his stomach that she might sit on his back, and another to lie on his back that she might rest her feet on his stomach." (Bingham, 2006, p. 74)

"According to Peltier, Pauline had her first lover at Marseilles in 1794, that is to say when she was fourteen. He omits to inform us of his name, but makes up for that by telling us that she bathed stark naked in the harbour....." (Fleischmann, 1914, p. 10)

In 1812 we find Pauline with four lovers! Lieutenant de Brack, a brilliant soldier, who seems to have been well fitted to become an intimate acquaintance of the Princess' without any waste of time; Commander Durchand, whom we shall meet again about 1814; Canouville, who is far away amidst the snows of Russia; and lastly, Talma. Such is the lovers' four-in-hand that she sets herself to drive; God knows how and with what attention at awkward moments! (Fleischman, 2004, pp. 202-203)

"General Hardy reported to his wife in France that, at Port-au-Prince, Madame Leclerc was bored to death, and he was content to have left Madame Hardy at home. However, in the years following the expedition to Saint-Domingue, exotic rumours circulated about the six weeks that Pauline had spent in the capital without her husband, and, as her fame spread, so did the tales of her infamous doings during this period. She succumbed to the 'island vice,' runs one account, and indulged in lesbian affairs with two women at a time, then passed from their arms to those of General Jean-Francois Debelle, known as the 'Apollo of the French army.' Another lascivious report asserts: 'The tropical sun was, they say, astonished by the ardor of her passions.' A third source claims that she experimented with white and black lovers to see which she preferred. Finally there is the accusation that she conducted an affair with General Jean Robert Humbert, a notoriously cruel French administrator. Her later employment in France of a large black page to carry her to her bath and act as outrider on her carriage did nothing to dispel the rumors." (Fraser, 2012, n.p.)

Napoleon must have been pissed to hear that his little sis is that much of a whore

Lol. She was his favourite sister.

rich kids of Instagram showed me that even mere millionaires can easily blow tens of thousands on incredibly stupid shit, it's easy to imagine a decadent billionaire filling a freaking lake.

Much more modestly, gold-leafed tacky "luxury" food is similarly wasteful:

"Priced at roughly $1,900, the five-piece nigiri roll contains luxe ingredients including Norwegian pink salmon and foie gras, with each bite topped with .20 carats of African diamonds and three Palawan pearls."

"As for the priciest dessert on the planet, Serendipity 3’s Frrrozen Haute Chocolate—a blend of ice, cocoa, milk, and five grams of 24-karat gold—will set you back a cool $25,000."

"Serendipity also serves up the $1,000 Golden Opulence Sundae, featuring a mountain of fine Tahitian Vanilla ice cream sprinkled with chunks of Venezuelan chocolate, gilded almonds, and premier candied fruit—topped with a ramekin of Grand Passion Caviar, chocolate truffles, marzipan cherries, and an intricate gold-leaf sugar flower that requires eight hours to make."

Reminder that the above have been served to several people, so we're talking possibly millions worth of gold that went literally down the shitter.

gold is worth less than copper outside the human mind. This is about the best form of auspicious consumption you could have, environmentally speaking

Look at her face. She's thinking about sex even at that moment.

>hurdur you can't extradite cannibals

that's an interpretation. the actual line is "bring them out so that we may know them" Now does that mean sex? Who knows.

How does that make sense when the next passage is Lot offering up his daughters to the mob?

>when ur big penis allows you to fuck the emperors sister and later saves your life

>second-degree murder
>corpse mutilation
>just 5 years in prison and a famous autobiography

My former boss was the boyfriend of a rich chinese lady back in the 90's.

She filled a bathtub with wine and they fucked in it. Not sure if the cultural meme is art imitating life or vice versa.

>piss drinking
>shit-eating
>foot fetishist

It's a pretty clear interpretation, given other passages in Genesis where "to know" is pretty clearly a euphemism for sex. For instance, we have Genesis 4:1

>And Adam knew Eve his wife, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain, and said "I have acquired a man with the help of God".

>nipple belt

>Once the sun sets into the west, a few of the chosen fifty pairs would be beaten to a bloody pulp and secretly fed to Daji as to ease her need for human flesh to survive.

That escalated quickly.

I really want to fuck a Chinese girl in a tub full of wine now.
Damn it.

But Daji is King Di Yan's concubine so they're all taking about the same thing in all three entries. I think most Chinese historian when they talk about Incompetent emperors they usually just say they neglected their duties and spend time with his harem.

I would say no until I did a google image search for 酒池肉林