Explain Romania

>what is Árpád dynasty

fuck off copper enthusiasts

No, it was strictly Hungarian

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Princes_of_Transylvania

bathorys, szekelys, bethlens, rakoszis, etc.

Yeah. The leaders. The population was always overwhelmingly Romanian.

source?

Basically this. No matter where you go and have a look you'll see that Romanians were the majority. Even if you use the leaders as an argument you don't get to disregard the countless local Romanian voivodes like Gelu, Glad and Menumorut, which led the lands long before the Hungarian invasions of Europe.

Then again, as a Romanian, I'm not really sure if Anonymus said the truth in his writings or if he was just shitposting.

How about you prove that an area that has been majoritarily Romanian since the first Austrian records and remained ao after being forcefully magyarised for 3 generations was a minority at some point?
This is beside the point anyway since for 200 years Romanians have been the majority.

bunch of we wuzers

All I said was WEWUZSERFS. That's funny coming from a Hungarian, the nation which made autistic nostalgic WEWUZING national identity.

The first austrian records were centuries after the independent transylvanian principality

you claimed it wasn't hungarian, while it's leaders, nobility and commoners were hungarians

it's like saying transvaal and oranje were bantu states and not dutch/boer states

So where did all the Romanians come from?

dont you see it odd
>magyarised
>romanian population grows

one of those things are not true

Doesn't matter, not the point of the argument

>commoners

Yeah, no. Even the nobility was partly Romanian, see John Hunyade and his son. Catholic Romanians, but Romanians.

We like fucking.

considered himself hungarian, spoke hungarian, lived and died for hungary

fuck off copper enthusiasts, you cannot steal history for yourself

So there were no Irish either living in Ireland since the nobility was English I guess. Same with the Finns. The Bulgarians too since the administration was Turkish for 500 years.

>John Hunyade
More wewuzing

Even if his ethnic origin was not hungarian( i don't know if it was or not) he was hungarian nobility, loyal to the hungairan kingdom and didn't give a shit about romanian peasants or the romanian principalities

He also spoke Romanian and no one considered himself to be of an ethnicity, nationalism and natioanl conscience was not a thing until the late 1700's. But you wouldn't know that.

>The Bulgarians too since the administration was Turkish for 500 years.
The ottoman empire was turkish, not bulgarian, no bulgarian ever goes "ayyo we wuz ottoman n shiet mah nigga"

I never claimed John or his son to be Romanian since they didn't have anything resembling nationalism in the 15th century. You however are wewuzing really hard, as a Hungarian is supposed to.

Way to miss my point moron.

but romanian nationality was the majority for all times in transylvania right
and hunyadi somehow a romanian noble, right

why dont you apply your statement for yourself first

>I never claimed John or his son to be Romanian
you literally claimed he was romanian nobility

and i am not hungarian, sorry to dissapoint, but they're not the only ones who see through your WE WUZ

I never claimed him because and let me rephrase it so a thick headed mongrel autistic wewuzzing cretin like you gets it:

THERE WAS NO NATIONAL CONSCIENCE IN THE RENAISSANCE ERA YOU MONGOLOID FUCKFACE

OK, Hungarians were the majority 500 years ago, what of it?

you're the one straw manning the whole time

i don't care if romanians lived there, it doesn't matter

in transvaal the boers were probably a minority, but no one in their right mind would say transvaal is a bantu state

if transylvania is transvaal, you, my friend are the bantu

He was a small time Romanian catholic noble, born in Wallachia. Not that it matters, but it's fucking fact. He had no allegiance to his ethnicity but to his crown and faith. Can we move on?

Yeah man, good on you, keep on wanking to wewuz nobles while signing your rights away to a fascist corrupt frogfaced fuck sucking your former oppressor's tiny penis.

glad you can keep your composure after losing the argument

you really took it like a man

>I don't care if romanians lived there, it doesn't matter

We've been overwhelmingly the majority for 10 generations. Fuck off Arpad

Yeah man, nice arguments. What was your point?

>we wuz romans and sheeeet

The independent principality of Transylvania was a Hungarian principality, ruled by Hungarians, who were the only recognized nation of the state along with the german saxon minority

Your refute?

tell us about your albanian prime minister Radu, is he going to jail or he gets away with it as your traditions suggest

I'm Romanian, I forgot to quote Iános saying he doesn't care that the Hungarians were in the minority

That is correct, but what's your point?

He'll probably be fed to the dogs in an inner party coup. The party will then make a show out of their reliability and ethics while keeping to their thug policies. So yes, tradition.

>That is correct, but what's your point?
lol how pathetic are you

look back on the entire argument and your little WEWUZ pee brain might understand

So you are genuinely retarded.

Just because Transylvania happened to be ruled by mongols who wouldn't recognize the Romanian majority that doesn't mean it didn't exist.

By his logic the Finns didn't exist until the 19th century.

ok im done with you, you can go back to WE WUZ DACIANS N CAESARS now

And for 2 centuries you stopped existing under Turkish rule, yes?

Basically. Apparently Canadians don't exist either because they're being ruled by a foreign monarch.

do romanians with an IQ above 80 exist?

the point was, the principality of transylvania was a hungarian principality, end of story, i don't care how many of you subhumans lived in it

this is where the argument began
fucking imbeciles, christ

Well yes, then it's settled. I thought what Kelemen might have implied is that Transylvania shouldn't be Romanian because it just so happens to have been ruled by Hungarians (which is what most people seem to believe).

The tables have turned. It's ours now - end of story.

>lel wewuzing subhumans
>endlessly wanks about muh princes and muh nobles
>triggered lel
>gets horribly assblasted

>to piss off Hungarians

Yeah, that was the only reason.

>be Romanian
>claim to be descandants of Dacians
>praise the guy who genocided Dacians

How is this possible?

Traian had mad bantz. And it was less genocide more kill some and pacify the rest. Romans used Dacian auxilia until the Aurelian retreat 165 years later.

according to them were romanized
get it
>be savage
>get romanized
>call yourself roman
>steal shit for a living

really makes you think

>almost 100 years after Trianon
>Hungarians are still buttblasted over it

Slavs in denial

t.András

I misread "slaves".

No you didn't.

t. Retard and proud

>) was added to Romania as a result of the Union referendum in Alba-Iulia, and the treaty of Trianon in 1920 which was signed with Hungary.

You see? You are already lying. The treaty if Alba-Iulia was not a referendum, they didn't ask the population, only the representatives - who of course voted for Romania, when they invaded (not even Hungary, on paper they declared war on Germany ONE DAY before the end of the war) and were close to/or already were under the control of Romanian troops.

The Trianon treaty was as legit as the Treaty o Versialles - no voting, the ethnic groups alongside the borders were cut off, dominantly Hungarian cities and regions (I'm not even tlalking about North-Transylvania and Szekelyland, if we count the border cities like Oreda, Arad etc, its still 600k Hungarians and barely any Romanians in the region).

All in all: did Romania had any right to the land? Well, they invaded with no war declaration (only on Germany), the Hungarian Kingdom was in a civil war, and they fought socialist forces.

And yes, the biggest ethnic group Transylvania was Romanians. This doesn't mean they had right for all of it, in North-Transylvania both Hungarians and Romanians were even (50-50), the Partium was majorly Hungarian.

Today, the best thing Romania can do is allow Szekelys to have autonomy, so they can keep their culture and customs. Its not like they can secede in the middle of the country.