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The Templar/Assassin war started with Cain and Abel, says the lore. But God doesn't exist, because humanity werr the creations of a race of ancient aliens.

He wasn't. Marxism-Leninism was a mistake.

Then why are they even called Templars and Assassins?

Napoleon and Churchill were better than their enemies, but they weren't really good guys.

>Napoleon
Is this game made by the French?

I fucking hate how everyone is either an Assassin or a Templar. The early lore implied there were lots of rogue, independent historical figures using pieces of Eden for power, not just these two organizations.

Because they forced this lore 2 games in the brand.

Yeah

>Hitler
>Alexander the Great

Yeah, I'm with the Templars. I wonder why Mohammed is not with the Assassins considering Ubisoft's extreme bias.

I don't think he's even mentioned in the series, probably because of possible muzzie butthurt,

Jesus is mentioned using pieces of Eden to perform miracles.

This is your brain on pop history. Xerxes is bad, Lenin is good. Good job, Frenchfags.

>I wonder why Mohammed is not with the Assassins considering Ubisoft's extreme bias.
Towards Muslims? Where is that apparent? They even un-Muslimed the Assassin order in the first game (you know, that part that was based on the actual Assassins).

So I guess Jesus is a Templar while Mohammed is an Assassin.

I wonder (((who))) could be behind these games.

Churchill was a Templar tho

According to retarded universe of AC the Templars crucified him.

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actually according to AC wiki Jesus was crucified by Templars

Unironically the Templars

The Assassins and Templars aren't "good vs evil", they're described as something like "compassionate anarchists vs benevolent dictators".
Supporting the Assassin's will get you Communism.

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>"Let's take the guys considered good by modern media fight against guys who are percieved evil by establishment but still somehow rule the world: the game"

Except for the obvious good/bad guy thing this has with even more obvious bias. What triggers me more is that they say that Tesla aquired knowledge from some magical mumbo jumbo instead of work for it.
Old t's bones must be rolling in their sci-fi grave.

>Stalin, Roosevelt, Hitler, Churchill were all templars
Wait, so what WW2 was about in this retarded universe?

>Templars:

Want a world of unity, everybody living in peace treating eachother like brethren and sharing with eachother what the earth belongs, no borders and no nations, they accept different religions and have a big influence on free speech.

>Assassins:

Want total anarchy and rebellion, killing people is fine to them, anything but their beliefs are wrong and fuck you, also i stabbed your father for being a templar now but it was his fault btw im gonna kill you too because you're a risk.

Why are assassins the good guys again?

>mfw they made Robesippre an ally of the Templars
Nigga was probably the realest Assassin in history

Cause they are the protagonists and the game tries to make you sympathise with them

becasue assassins represent more liberal and socialist values, so pushed by modern establishment

The Templars began the war in an effort to form a new world government, creating the chaos necessary to install an international monetary system which was later proposed at the Bretton Woods Conference
Funny that some people unironically believe that something similar actually happened.

>napoleon
>not a good guy
Name one thing he did wrong Hans.

The Templars want to create some hellish dystopian future and Assassins want to stop them. At least that's the narrative game pushes on you

He betrayed the revolution.

>Funny that some people unironically believe that something similar actually happened.
Most of the AC lore is loosely based on real conspiracy theories.

How is this reconciled with Marx's global communism?

Literally because all your (((friends))) in the game are (((assassin))) allies. Of course you get their slanted liberal view of history.

Yup, Lenin's red terror was as liberal as you can get.

Just a reminder goyim, George Bush was a Templar agent!
You should vote for Assassin candidates like Al Gore and Hillary Clinton! You wouldn't want a republican victory and an ensuing shoah, would you?

Assassins were liberal, not Lenin. But I don't know how, but according to Ubisoft assassins symphatised with communists

>(((George Bush)))
>(((Republicans)))

If Templars were real they would probably have their people in both parties. AC3 shows how they supported both Loyalists and Patriots during the Revolutionary War.

>that article on the top of the magazine
"See? Templars are pushing religion, we should get rid of it"

It's retarded pop history. There aren't many well known social democrats so they made Lenin and communists the good guys.
It's weird how the Soviets are portrayed in pop culture, especially Lenin and Trotsky. They never mention that the bolsheviks are responsible for the destruction of Russian democracy. It's like February revolution, Mensheviks, Kadets and the SRs didn't exist.

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Napoleon brought order to the excesses and chaos of the revolution. He ended the mass killings and hysteria and spread revolutionary ideas throughout the continent. If he were a traitor the army that fought for the revolution wouldn't have been so devout to the emperor. Try again.

I haven't played any AC games except for 4, but I'm pretty sure at this point the templars have basically won and control basically everything, presumably including both US parties.

Yaknow, interventionist yesterday's Republicans, destabilizing the middle east and doing grocery runs for Israel is kinda authoritarian-secret-cabal kinda thing to do.

I bet they'd still call Trump a Templar though.

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What retarded scenario, i hope they never make a modern day-based game

>he ended the killing and mass hysteria
That was the Directory. Napoleon established a police state and crowned himself an emperor. Yes, he spread the revolutionary ideas, but he himself was against democratic order.

Is there something about 9/11?

I read somewhere that the Directory was almost ready to restore Bourbons on the throne prior to Napoleon's coup. Don't know how true this is.

>What retarded scenario
Well it's based on conspiracy theories, so that's no suprising

And I thought MGS version of the Cold War was retarded.

altair shit was cool as fuck. after that it went downhill

we need more games with muslim protagonists.

Altair isn't muslim

Probably a Templar false-flag because Muslims dindunuffin

He's a good guy in real life

As a Marxist I agree, but Lenin's heart was in the right place 9 times out of 10. Most of his mistakes were understandable in the context of the time, and until 1921 it really seemed like the global order of capitalism was about to fall.

Remember that Marxism-Leninism is not what Lenin did and certainly not what Lenin said and believed. MLism is the Stalin-era codification of Lenin's every single actions into some kind of bizarre scripture that very often contradicted the socialist literature from which Lenin built his theories.

>when you BTFO both Templars and Assassins
Best protagonist in the series, he didn't give a fuck about anything

I'm against any form of dictatorship. Bolsheviks weren't popular enough to win the elections so they formed a dictatorship. And after things like establishing Cheka or crushing the Kronstadt rebellion it's impossible for me to defend them.

AC4 only good game in the franchise, but yeah it was pretty great. Mostly because they avoided actually having any assassin vs templar shit until the end,

>the templars stop the assassins from rigging the election
>the templars are the bad guys

>le churchill was a good guy
>bbc.com/news/magazine-29701767

>>le churchill was a good guy
he wasn't tho he was a templar during WWII

You just can't go wrong with pirate setting

>the best AC game has the least AC material

What are they even fighting about?

Literally Protestant v Catholic issues, just replace Mary with aliens and Jesus with piece's of Eden

Humans were created by a slave race for ancient ayylmaos
Some of the devices they used to basically mindcontrol people or do other amazing things are still around and have been secretly held by historical figures
Templars want them so they can rule the world

Of course they made Tesla an Assassin and Edison a Templar. Why does that autistic Serbian fuck have so many fanboys all of a sudden?

>dislike everyone in Templars beside Ford and Alexander
>but don't want to support a gommie
Can I choose neither?

This is the most offensive and retarded thing about AC. It portrays mankind as sheep. Everything everywhere is a lie. Literally nothing in history was ever done without magic mind control bullshit. This one of the most nihilistic visions of the world I've ever seen.

>They never mention that the bolsheviks are responsible for the destruction of Russian democracy. It's like February revolution, Mensheviks, Kadets and the SRs didn't exist.

good post.

>but according to Ubisoft assassins symphatised with communists
Because they were anti-capitalists, And capitalism was created by Templars.

Was this written by history channel?

The game is based on conspiracy theories

Lenin? One of the worst butchers in history? This fucking franchise was pushing it with Marx. With a few changes both sides look like something a lefty student would've chosen for a good guys/bad guys list.

So like commies? Holy shit I'm so glad I didn't even waste a minute on this fucking franchise.

Can't wait to see what PC bullshit they cooked up for Empire.

>Implying Lenin was on the good side

>all these people claiming the games portray the templars as solely evil and the assassins as solely good
none of you played 3 or Rogue, did you?

Because Rogue was too good for this world

Didn'tt 3 let you play as Haytham for a brief time? He was a Templar

Also the worst AC game hands down, everything was so cringey and try hard and in the end your main villain was some angry moustache cuck

>As a Marxist
Stopped reaing there.

The Assassins creed games are good when they just give you a city and let you walk around and experience it but all the over arching story is so boring and dull, I remember enjoying being in Revolutionary America and then they pull out of the game to walk around a fucking office builds REEEE to be honest.

>Didn'tt 3 let you play as Haytham for a brief time? He was a Templar
Yes, and "disappointment" doesn't come close to describe how I felt when the game makes you play as his dipshit injun son playing hide and seek in the woods. I knew the game would be shit at that point but I finished it anyway

>created by a slave race
*to be a slave race

>So, Lenin, Lavoisier and Churchill are on a plane...

No he wasn't. AC is retarded as per usual.

So, the original slave race is just really lazy then?

>everything was so cringey and try hard and in the end your main villain was some angry moustache cuck
Excelent arguments desu

Nice trips

Homestead missions were fun at least for me, everything else was bland and unoriginal. Connor had such a pathetic personality, no motives deeper than "hurr i must protect muh village and assasinate a bunch of bad guys". Let's not forget the whole MUH FREEDUMS american bear.jpg background.

Haytham was such a disappointment. He had so much potential as a character, so many unresolved questions around him and yet he died in a retarded melodramatic conflict with Connor with the whole "hurr i wish i killed you first" attitude. Black Flag was such a refreshement after this shit.

>Napoleon
>Assassin Ally
In the Unity and Unity DLC he goes after 2 separate pieces of Eden for his own gain and hides his search for these objects from the Assassins. He is a wild card if anything.

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