How the fuck were they built? What the fuck was their real purpose? Did they use a ramp? A crane? Did slaves really build the pyramids, or were they paid? How did they move the big ass blocks? Is it just a coincidence that the Giza pyamids satisfy the Golden Ratio?
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This is literally the oldest historical mystery ever, how the fuck have we not figured out the pyramids? Trying to construct it today is near impossible, how the fuck could we have done it before?
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Friendly reminder that the pyramids were originally built for grain storage.
Ancient Kurdish engineering.
>How the fuck were they built
There are a lot of theories but nothing certain so far
>What the fuck was their real purpose
Other pyramids have mortuary texts and others were found with mummies in it, certainly tombs
how do you transport heavy stones through miles of desert and then stack them using ancient human muscle and engineering. Its also a mystery how stonehenge was built.
Personally i think someone figured out the pulley system and constructed some basic cranes pulled by animals. same thing with stonehenge.
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Blows my mind how fucking old both this and the pyramids are, both a little over 4000 years
Humans could be so much more advanced today if it weren't for genocides and intentional regressions.
>Trying to construct it today is near impossible
Huh? No it isn't. A big construction company with enough money could probably put one up in under a year.
If thats true why hasnt it been done?
No-one's wanted to spend the money building one, I guess. If you're gonna spend a bunch of money building a giant structure, might as well build a skyscraper and make money renting it out. If you build a pyramid, pretty much the only money you can make from it is from tourism.
Stonehenge as it is today was built in the 1950's
The transport part isn't that complicated.
An average person can exert about 100 pounds of force.
If you get dozens or hundreds of guys and enough rope, you can exert tons of force.
Throw in log rollers and wedges, and it's less of a challenge than you'd think.
This guy single handedly began making his own concrete stonehenge. He used no pulleys just pivots I think.
It's on youtube
>This is literally the oldest historical mystery ever, how the fuck have we not figured out the pyramids?
I'll never understand how the hell people can't understand how the pyramids were built. You've got a society with a large population that's effectively unemployed for much of the year (between harvest and planting there's not much to do) with experienced stoneworkers, engineers, and a figurehead literally considered to be a god directing it all. They had plenty of time to do it, and moving giant stones isn't nearly as hard as people think.
>Trying to construct it today is near impossible
No, it'd be perfectly possible, just a retarded waste of everyone's time and resources.
The water shaft theory is intriguing.
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If I'm right, the way they did it, those pyramids, and other wonders, are stored at the library of Alexandria, maybe if we didn't destroy it we would've know how the ancient people built ancient wonders like that.
Are you serious though? Why do you think one couldn't be built today? Sounds like some shit they'd say in Ancient Aliens.
Blame organized religion. Just imagine how much we could accomplish.
The pyramids were built because of organized religion. The first building to surpass the height of the great pyramid was a Cathedral.
where's an eccentric billionaire when you need one
Nobody needs that shit. I'd rather see a colony on Mars than another useless pyramid.
literally jews
Didn't we recently find evidence that they didn't relocate the stones, but poured them in place with a mold like concrete? As in, they go up to the level they're currently on, construct a mold with wood, and pour cement or whatever in them and let them dry?
Someone told me they found hairs and other stuff inside the blocks.
the black kings and queens did it with their laser eyes.
They also built pyramids on mars, but the government won't tell us.
Not to mention St.Cristina temple well, built over 3000 years ago, it was incredibly accurate at predicting astronomical phenomena
>The Nuraghic well of Santa Cristina, Sardinia has been regarded as a ritual monument built to receive moonlight on its watermirror at the time of the meridian passage of the moon when it reaches its highest point in the sky during and around the majornorthern lunistice. In this paper we investigate the precision that could have been achieved and conclude that the well couldindeed have served as an instrument for measuring the lunar declination during half of the draconic cycle of 18.61 years
No. There was this hypothesis like maybe in the 80's, and it was quickly debunked.
Who the fuck is we? What makes you think building plans would be stored there? Copies of building plans aren't kept in libraries.
this desu.
With the tons of time, security and prosperity they had to do all that they did most of it was spent on religion and vanity. Saying that the Ancient Egyptians were extremely advanced for their time often goes over how all of their epic construction projects were temples and tombs.
Considering how much of a waste it would be to build Pyramids today, imagine how much of a colossal waste it must have been during ancient times..
All that precision when it comes to astronomy really isn't all that amazing. Think, if you had nothing to do at night besides sleep or look at the stars, you'd probably start to notice patterns in things. A complex society with thousands of years of looking at the stars is going to have a pretty accurate idea of astronomy.
>mfw Ancient Aliens spent 60 minutes earnestly discussing how the Moon may be a hollow artificial satellite created by aliens to study Humanity
>mfw they did this by bringing up how "the craters aren't deep enough" or "we've got snippets of ancient civilization myths that mention there wasn't a moon in the beginning."
WUZ
Astronomy was their gps and their calendar. Many religions take root in metaphor or myth about astronomical event.
>"we've got snippets of ancient civilization myths that mention there wasn't a moon in the beginning."
Funny that they think ancient civilizations would note down how there's only a sun in the sky, but wouldn't mention the giant celestial body that appeared in the sky one night night.
It would've been a cataclysmic event to them.
>dude they just did it lmao xD xD
>Generally agreed that workers had worked during the three month period every year for 20 years
>To complete within this time period, they had to place 240 blocks every hour
>Millions of blocks average around 2.5 tons, at the 35th course the blocks average 15 tons, well over 10 times the height of the antechamber
>All this with the faces of each pyramid pointing to true north more precisely than any other building to this day, the base is a square with perfect 90 degree corners and exactly same length, and the apex perfectly centered
Your comment clearly demonstrates that you have not contributed one iota of gray matter into this discussion, I suggest you return to whatever board you crawled up from, Veeky Forums is for intellectuals
>Funny that they think ancient civilizations would note down how there's only a sun in the sky, but wouldn't mention the giant celestial body that appeared in the sky one night night.
The level of fallacies and downright sinister misinformation they pull on that show is disgusting, the text they'd quote is something to the effect of, "in the beginning there was no moon, and then the gods put the moon in the sky, this is how the moon came to be" and the (((experts))) would begin to spit how this meant the Earth didn't have a moon, but then aliens (because every mention of a god = alien to the show) put the moon in the sky to observe humanity.
There is a YouTube video of a guy moving giant blocks of rock by himself using simple methods
>tfw watch ancient aliens for the plot
Gonna be honest, things really did get kind of wild when they discussed psychics, divination and unlocking the mind-stream that allows you to perceive all past, present and future events.
Water engineering. Use of water dam systems to lift large blocks with pulley system.
It's an amzing building.
But utterly pointless. The romans told it as it was.
It served no civil purpose at all.
But look at the sewers under rome that have been in constant use to this very day.
>a bloo bloo bloo you didn't give a perfectly correct explanation of what happened
user, I'm not going to waste my time explaining things to an ancient aliens retard. You can get off your "intellectual" high horse and quit whining about the quality of discussion on a mongolian throat-singing website.
One of the big mysteries of today.
We have no idea when, how and why they were built.
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>It praises the gods Isis, Mistress of the pyramids and Osiris, Lord of Rosta. After this, the inscription claims that the Isis temple was already at its place before the pyramids had been erected and that the temple was discovered by Khufu east of the great pyramid at the "house of Harmakhis" (i.e. the Sphinx temple). Then it claims that Khufu first "built the temple of Isis anew" and then built a pyramid for the "king's daughter Henutsen". Finally, the goddess Isis is praised and again entitled as "mistress of the pyramids".[1][4]
Or maybe the Romans didn't realize the civil purpose it served, and that some functions and benefits of functions are veiled from those without the eyes to see them.
>What is the answer to this riddle, do you think?
>We have no idea when, how and why they were built.
Yeah, if you ignore literally all accepted evidence.
There's pyramids across egypt that show the evolution of the design up to the ones at Giza, starting with Mastabas and evolving into step pyramids and finally full pyramids. They have a fairly good idea of when they were built considering they're something like 4,000 years old. And we sure as shit know why they were built - they were massive grave complexes for kings that were considered gods.
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hmm
Internal ramps
>Generally agreed that workers had worked during the three month period every year for 20 years
>To complete within this time period, they had to place 240 blocks every hour
Yeah there were lost of fucking workers there. When a living god tells you to build something, you build it.
>Millions of blocks average around 2.5 tons, at the 35th course the blocks average 15 tons, well over 10 times the height of the antechamber
Not nearly impossible if you have enough men and understanding of physics.
>All this with the faces of each pyramid pointing to true north more precisely than any other building to this day, the base is a square with perfect 90 degree corners and exactly same length, and the apex perfectly centered
They knew their geometry really well. However, they are not perfectly facing north.
> how the fuck have we not figured out the pyramids
We have.
>Trying to construct it today is near impossible
Fuck this ancient aliens meme.
>how the fuck could we have done it before
Trial and error in the beginning. There are lots of examples of the early pyramids where they fucked up (walls too steep and collapsed, or didn't line the base up so the top is off center, etc)
ancient aliums kind of wants you to believe that the ancient Egyptians lived in a vacuum, like this most advanced bronze age civilization on one of the worlds most fertile river valleys was doing nothing and then *boom* aliums helped them make the pyramids for no reason - like all of their building projects leading up to them don't exist
It sucks that the History Channel is now promoting anti-historical pseudo history
(((God's Chosen)))
Why don't people just go inside ?
I think some may have
And grave robbers have/have tried
That's what I hate about it the most. The whole ancient aliens meme and all the different variants of it all rely on the assumption that the ancients somehow had no real understanding of very basic things like astronomy and comparatively simple engineering. It's practically reducing them to a noble savage just because these idiots sitting at home with nothing more than a high-school education can't seem to fathom that people might have different skillsets than them and - surprise - they might actually be pretty good at things we don't do today.
I agree and it's a shame what History has turned into (I remember back when it was just old war docs and shit),
Ancient Aliens can fuck itself though because they do bring up some interesting historical anomalies and poorly understood archaeological sites that are worth further examining, but then shit all over it with "hurr durr the pyramids were alien nuclear reactors to power space ships" and other bullshit.
>why they were built - they were massive grave complexes for kings that were...
Saving their own asses by keeping the general population employed instead of bitching about how shitty their government actually performed.
The Pyramids were "busy work" for the masses so they would be less likely to revolt.
So what's the current historical consensus on who the Egyptians got to build the pyramids?
Was it actually slaves, or was it a payed work force?
6 million black Jewish paid laborers.
Busy work to prevent revolt in an era of slaves and brutal collective punishment? Yeah I don't think so
have you ever worked construction or built anything with industry professionals, my intellectual friend?
a crew of 4 experienced masons and 2-3 laborers can clad a 1 story house in stone or brick in 8-10 hrs. Triple the amount of laborers and you could mix enough mortar by hand to keep up the same pace with no electric or combustion engines.
Add a few engineers/architects who are also a priests/demigods trained from birth, a motivated work force of thousands, a very generous deadline for completion, and an entire society (ruled by one man) hell bent on making it happen and it isn't very outlandish.
the human animal is as intellegent now as he was then. just because you cant conceive of how to get it done doesn't mean the smartest men in ancient egypt couldn't
why are you so confident that you have all the answers?
If men can do it, other men can understand it. It's not difficult as a concept.
>I don't think so
What do you do with agricultural slave labor during the off season?
Public works.
i don't have all the answers by any stretch of the imagination.
but if the question is "Can 1 million humans quarry and stack lots of large stones very precisely over a 40 year period?" the answer is yes
>While it is generally agreed that pyramids were burial monuments, there is continued disagreement on the particular theological principles that might have given rise to them. One suggestion is that they were designed as a type of "resurrection machine."
>""""resurrection machine""""
Quoth the literal brain surgeon.
Quoth the literal brain surgeon. That shit blows my mind. I cannot grok
There was barely 1 million Egyptians back then desu, certainly not all of them helped build it, and even with that many its a logistical nightmare to get the monolith built for the foreman.
even a small modern construction project can a logistical nightmare to a novice, especially if you consider how far away the sources of most building materials are now, but things get built everyday.
any society that can produce full time specialists (in any field), can use them to organize and create amazing things.
im sure nowhere near all of them helped build it. i just meant i don't think its impossible for a society of 1 million humans to manage to feed, clothe, govern and protect themselves and find the time and resources to neatly stack lots and lots of stones using cardinal directions and other huge monuments to orient them
Especially when you consider that the Giza pyramids didn't happen in a vacuum. Egypt is dotted with the projects that showed the technological steps to the Great Pyramid
>Stone mastabas take place of burial mounds
>someone gets the idea to stack mastabas to get step pyramids
>then they decide to smooth out the edges
>one attempt fucks up and falls apart, leaving just the core
>the next attempt fucks up engineering halfway through and the resulting fix resulted in bent pyramid
The Giza pyramids built on about a hundred years of pyramid development and probably a thousand more of experience with large projects like Mastabas.