Redpill me on vikings, Veeky Forums

Bronze gladiator's helmet said to be found at the gladiators' barracks at Pompeii Roman

>By destroying priceless works of culture in monasteries and raping nuns.
>Christians still mad

Kek

Ancient Greek helmet

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>boring copy of a Roman helmet

>No protection for cheeks, or neck

>Parts glued together

>Aesthetic, sleek and iconic as fuck

>protects neck,cheeks and nose

>Gives off intimidating appearance

>Is casted and crafted from a single piece of iron.

Parade Burgonet, bearing a fearsome lion’s visage on the visor. Made in Milan in the mid-16th century, the helmet belonged to Archduke Ferdinand II of Tyrol.

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Somebody post the thing with the bucket.

Reinvented nautical technology to the point where they had the fastest long ships of their time whose actual performance we can't recreate with the tools they used to make them which recreates their historical performance
>WE
They also then colonized Iceland and Greenland, but the rest of the colonies collapsed due to economic unsustainability

more likely collapsed due to having no sedentary population to raid, nomadism is the perfect counter to VIKANGZ

Were the first Europeans to discover the Americas and established large colonies and trade systems in the Americas, trading with the locals

more likely small settlements for quickly gathering natural resources before locals overrun them

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They lost pretty much every pitched battle against anyone barely competent.

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They were excellent craftsmen. Only an ignorant would call them barbarians.

There's no Dobson here.

Why have grown men been playing dress up for centuries?

>you're trying too hard

people can meme all they want about Vikings being overrated warriors, but to do so is to entirely miss the point.
Vikings werent significant because they could massacre armies and engage in contests of nations, but instead because they could come out of seemingly fucking nowhere and kill half your village and enslave whoever they could get their hands on.

We're not your enemies, Varg. In fact, we're your greatest allies and admirers.

That's not what red pill means.

>can't even greentext properly
>thinks his opinions matter

Why do newfags talk shit about things they don't know about? I mean if the colonies outside of Scandinavia collapsed because there was no one to raid, then why did Iceland and Greenland survive? Its almost like people left the settlements in America because it was too far away to be sustainable and moved to other colonies that were more sustainable.

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the normandy section on that map doesnt even encompass rouen

see that ring? there was more to it

boat ppl raiding shores
medieval refugees

its PR, scandies have good PR because they are rich
i mean, calling a longboat a ship shows you how much its mental gymnastics

Barbarians who carried their ship across half of russia to get into the black sea so they could reave the mediterranean

Vikings did more that raid and pillage. They explored, traded and colonized using advanced shipbuilding techniques and just being cool dudes
They did lots of cool stuff such as
>Become christian vassals of France who would later conquer Britain, Sicily, Southern Italy
>Colonized and converted to Orthodox in Russia
>Served as the personal bodyguards to the Byzantine Emperor
>Colonized Iceland, Greenland (briefly), and discovered North America
Vikings are cool man everyone should read more about them and reflect the impact they've had on History

Sutton Hoo isn't viking.

>ISIS destroys culture
>seen as a disgusting act
>vikings do it
>"THEY WUZ THE STROBGEST WARIERS XDD"

get the fuck out snow nigger

That looks fucking cool. I really want a decent RPG in ancient greek setting.

They are the barbarian group that left the most written records written by themselves.

Norse mythology was written down on Iceland.
Norse legends was written down on Iceland.
Norse poetry was written down on Iceland.
Norse sagas was written down on Iceland.
Norse kings' sagas was written down on Iceland.

Plus, a lot of clergy on the continent wrote about encounters with the barbarians.

No other barbarian group had such an extensive written record.

i think viking is a pretty cool guy, eh runis culture and doesn't afraid of anything

>vikangz
>norse

fuck you say wite boi

Wikangz was Russian.

youtube.com/watch?v=ZtDAOaIjVqc

Where the Normans what forms the basis of Franks becoming "modern" French?

>that helmet
>viking

Get out of my board you fucking shit.

That's the first Anglo Saxon king, as in the one to style himself as king

I think he's dumping an armour folder here instead of the armour thread

YES
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SYE

All those things you listed were written down after Christianization hundreds of years after the Viking Age had ended.

The primary written record from the actual barbarian Norsemen themselves are the runestones which are simple memorials that do not contain any substantive information about their culture.

>territories of the vikings

I see this spammed in viking threads as if it's supposed to be hyper impressive, when the only impressive thing about it is the voyage west.

Most of those voyages into eastern europe were as raiders or mercenaries, and as "vikings" the lands highlighted in scandinavia were pretty much never united and usually at one another's throats.

As for Britain, they were dispatched after a while too.

>crafted from a single piece of iron.

Nigga did your mother drop you at birth?

The mental gymnastics scanditards and wewuzing amerisharts undergo to shill generic pirates as great warriors are hilarious
>any other group attacks unarmed people
>fucking savages!
>vikangz attack unarmed farmers and monks
>it's called smart tactics ;)
>any other group loses at least 1 war
>they were meme warriors
>vikings were defeated in every place they tried to invade
>s-so what?! No one is invincible!
>hehe vikings such slayers of christians ;)
>especially Harald Hadrada, Hakon the Good, Harald Bluetooth totally were pagan
>once the vikingboo who had to google afromentioned names because his knowledge about norse comes from Skyrim realizes christian vikings were in fact a thing he goes ''it was because of political reasons!''
>just like every other country in Europe
>muh champions of white race ;)
>selling white slaves to arabs
>giant, muscular warriors!
>170cm on average, exactly the same as in England, the only one to describe them as tall was an arab manlet it's like when asians call a someone 180cm tall giant of course they fucking do if they are midgets themselves

wanna read about sea raiders who did some proper damage and actually worn horned helmets look up Sea Peoples who almost set Greece back to stone age

>ISIS destroys culture
>Seen as a holy act
>Christians destroys temples, genocides all of South America, topples governments, sells opium to the chinese,
>WE DINDU NUFFIN NEVA

The Norse Sagas aren't the only forms of evidence of Viking history, you do realize this, right?

Yes and you realize that the pagan Norse were an illiterate civilization?

And no runestone memorials do not qualify as literature.

>Vikings were defeated every place they tried to raid
>Pop history fags actually believe this

They conquered both the British and Russian thrones wtf are you talking about

>Anyone else invades and rapes other cultures
>Savages

So then the British, Spanish, and French are all barbarians on a global scale?

>Exactly the same as in england

You do realize that anglos saxons are the descendants of Northern Europe people, right?

Why are britbong such morons?

>Sea people's

Oh it's a unifag of course

>Yes and you realize that the pagan Norse were an illiterate civilization?

Actually the runes do count as having a written language, most just saw written language as being a weakening of the mind because anyone who isn't smart enough to have memorized a story themselves is a moron. Most people were illiterate in the Viking age you mong, including non viking cultures. The only class of people who tended to not be illiterate were monks and church officials.

Having a written language is not the same as being a literate society. Yes commoners could not read during the medieval period but the point is that within Christendom the church as an institution was devoted to developing and promoting the written word to which there was no analogue in Norse society.

We've strayed from the original point anyway which was that this post is nonsense.

>How phallic you want your helmet senpai?

>Admit that there were literate classes of people all over Europe who witnessed and gave firsthand accounts of the Viking invasions
>Admit that the vikings became Christians
>Can't peice together the concept that the Vikings had to be converted by literate Christian monks who recorded their cultures and wars

Really mane?

They were no longer "barbarians" by the time all those things were written down which is what that post was saying.

vikings are by far the ones who manage to trigger Veeky Forums the most

>sailed from canada (leif eriksson) to persia (ingvar the far-travelled)
>found america 500 years before columbus did
>colonized iceland, greenland, newfoundland, a ton of smaller islands around britain
>was given normandy by charles the bald, creating what we know today as the normans
>were the bodyguards of the roman emperors
>established the north sea empire
>traded with everyone, from inuits in the west to buddhists in the east
>founded a bunch of towns in ireland, like dublin and cork
>wuz kangz of kiev and the rus', the name of rus' probably coming from the place known as roslagen in sweden

yeah, they weren' the best of conquerors, their "cousings" the normans are far more deserving of that title. but their feats of exploration are incredible for such a race of "barbarians"

>By the time all those things were written down

They were written during the invasion period and in the short aftermath because there still missionaries going over there to convert people wtf

Why no one gives a flying fuck about the trade routes they estabilished? That's more important than some ''hehe killin' and burnin' such berserkir ;)'' bullshit. Not metal enough for millenials?

Snorri lived in the 12th century and the oldest saga is from the 13th.

Are you stoned or something?

>Snorri
>The source of everything we know about the Vikings

Are you just stupid or something? The eddas are not the sum total of all our knowledge on the vikings

What are the primary sources of Viking literature you're referring to then?

Skyrim

yeah, a bunch of butthurt monks who couldn't handle the banter wrote a bunch about le ebil vikings

:-DDDDDDDDDDD

>He thinks butthurt monks are the only source of our knowledge on the vikings

It's time to stop posting

when did i say "Only source"?

>Viking Literature
>Literature

Monks. I thought we have been over this? Much of pagan culture is a mystery although there were detailed accounts supposedly in the Library of Alexandria before it burned down

But in terms of overall Viking history Snorri is not the arbiter

Wrong person desu

that helmet puts a big smile on my face

So you agree that this post () is nonsense?

it's snorre

No he's still right. The poems written by Christians were just old tales and songs sung by the pagans based on local folklore, sort of like the Grimm Brothers or Aesop.

Plus he's still right, there are very extensive records of the Vikings thanks to Catholic monks.

>how did they become more famous than any other european tribesmen?
Paganism revival by nazis + having cucked Britbongs, which, with their descendants (USA), partially rule the world now.

I was not making the case that the Norse were better because they had their stories written down, but the case that the Vikings are the most famous and interesting barbarian group because it is the group we know the best. Goths etc. are interesting, but there is just much more literature about the Vikings. No other barbarian group can compare. What have we written down of Gothic myths and legends?

The question to OP was why did the vikings get famous. I feel I answered that question.

He said they were written by the barbarians themselves and not the Christians.

How can you say he's right when you disagree with him?

>>Left genetic imprints all across Europe, Ireland was basically used as a concubine hub
kek, the raided initially, took the Irish by surprise. But the Vikings settled in BOGS next to RIVERS so the Irish couldn't fight pitched battles against them.

They didn't conquer Ireland at all, got routinely rekt by the Irish and were VASSALS of the Irish for longer than they were free in Ireland.

At one point the Irish got so pissed off with their hit and run tactics, it drove the Irish to build their own fleets, which they did, then the Irish went to the Viking sea base in the Western Isles and destroyed them.

The Vikings were actually controlled by parasites.

>Rape a few Irish women
>Leave
>Irish persecute the rape babies

Sounds about right you Micks are sub human

>Say that the barbarians converted to Christianity.

Did you forget about that part?

You know Norse had a revenge system where it was acceptable to kill someone just because he was related to the guy you hate right?

>Awesome Manga of battles and political intrigue
>Now farm simulator and faggot pacifist shit

It really activated my almonds

In order to forget something it has to exist first.

>They had a law system for that

Probably because people still do that to this day? See Hatfields and McCoys

It does exist you just don't know how to read the thread

Point out where it says that in this post () right now.

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The whole quote? Icelandic people , not Icelandic pagans? There were Icelandic clergymen who wrote some of the poetry which was recorsing ancient poems and stories they had no part in making under a Christian lense.

How autistic are you? You high?

Nowhere in the post does it mention Icelandic clergymen.

>Just make it a giant bell-end with eye holes and cheekguards.
What do you mean I'm a dickhead?

Kek dickhead

i hope you realize theyre going to travel through the russian rivers all the way down to constantinople right? And then to vinland to meet indians/skraeling. Its going to be amazing