Actual reasons with supporting evidence and real arguments as to why this documentary is or is not a good documentary.
Not /pol/, just want to get a truthfully most objective opinion on it as possible. /stormfront/ opinions fuck off. I want an actual discussion on this.
Unironically the most through debunking of this piece of shit.
Juan Hughes
>It denies Holocaust, citing Leuchter. >A fucking exclamation mark in the name >Hitler dindu nuffin That should be enough of a red flags.
Owen Scott
>reddit
Brandon Gomez
>shitwehraboossay
Henry White
fuck off stormfag
Angel Cooper
Not an argument.
Owen Thompson
>>Hitler dindu nuffin
What did he do wrong? This is all just a matter of opinion. I, personally, don't think he did anything wrong... well, maybe except not finishing the job.
William Sanchez
He was a murderous maniac. Normal people consider it wrong.
Adrian Perez
>What did he do wrong? The whole world war bussines, genocides and stuff. But hey, if that's your opinion than it's your opinion. Good luck with not being ostracized from society, though.
Christopher Young
>What did he do wrong?
genocide, causing the worst war in human history, and being a corrupt dictator who led his people into ruin/being a shitty leader in general.
Robert Hughes
You have any proof of what you're saying? What was he so different from the rest of the leaders in history and present day?
Didn't the UK and France start the World War though? I don't remember Hitler wanting a war with them.
Tyler Price
>You have any proof of what you're saying? History. >What was he so different from the rest of the leaders in history and present day? There are all kinds of leaders. Hitler was one of the worst.
>Didn't the UK and France start the World War though? No, Hitler started it by invading Poland.
Gabriel Bell
>What was he so different from the rest of the leaders in history and present day?
genocide and war mongering on a global scale. Also, other shitty dictators existing in no way somehow justifies Hitler or magically makes his actions good.
>Didn't the UK and France start the World War though?
No, Hitler did when he invaded Poland, and then later invaded the USSR (both of which he had non aggression pacts with)
Robert Edwards
>You have any proof of what you're saying?
yes, but your a low IQ internet conspiracy theory who will ignore it anyway in favor of your neo-nazi revisionist internet conspiracies
Nathaniel Butler
I was looking for something like this. Seems like only nazi apologists recognize this documentary. I want an actual review. This is pretty close (while obviously still has some agenda).
Isaiah Williams
sort of related, but theres also this that BTFO of holocaust deniers
Nobody BTFO'd Holocaust deniers more than Hoess, Wisliceny and Brunner. Basically people who were involved in it and were proud of it. The details may be dicussed etc. but claiming that it "was just typhoid because of allied bombings" is obviously wrong.
Dylan Gutierrez
dont you get it? THEY WERE ALL TORTURED INTO SAYING THAT BY THE JEWISH REPTILIANS!
Matthew Martin
>the part where they ACTUALLY use the "well you lynch negroes!" argument
>part 8 says "zionist communism"
seriously, do stormfags know ANYTHING about communism or the USSR?
Kayden Kelly
Or him. How do you torture this man and get away with it?
Jayden Bennett
>torture doesn't happen in the real world pal, it is a conspiracy like reptilians
Easton Hill
notice how you had to strawman my argument (it was more of a joke) in order to hold any water in this conversation?
John Richardson
It did not happen to the Nuremberg defendants, witnesses and people who escaped and died as free men.
Ryan Gutierrez
If the mere fact that the Allies could have tortured the Nuremberg defendants into confessing "proves" that they did in fact do so, doesn't the mere fact that Nazi Germany could have committed genocide equally prove that they did so?
Justin Ross
>History Uh-uh. >There are all kinds of leaders. Hitler was one of the worst. In your opinion. >No, Hitler started it by invading Poland. Poland refused to give Danzig, a vital part of his plan. He actually wanted to ally with Poland and invade the Soviet Union, but the Poles refused him.
>genocide and war mongering on a global scale. You have no proof of the genocide and the "war mongering" was already explained.
The Jews were killed, but nowhere near the numbers that's being constantly thrown around. It wasn't worse than any other leader has done to them.
Besides there is a reason why the whole world hates the Jews. Literally ever single nation and religion in the world has had a problem with them. Ever think about that?
Blake Ramirez
It's written for a community that's all about shitting on Nazis and Wehraboos, has in-jokes that aren't very funny.
Hudson Perez
It's cute how dumb stormfag newfags think they are knowledgeable about the subject. Wow, we have this thread like every day. And it's always the same """"""""""arguments""""""""""".
Cameron Wood
>He actually wanted to ally with Poland and invade the Soviet Union, but the Poles refused him. Which is of course why he signed a treaty with the USSR to divide up Poland between them.
>The Jews were killed, but nowhere near the numbers that's being constantly thrown around. Really? Then where did they all go?
Colton Rivera
Who would've thought this board is being raided by leddit
Could you all just fuck off already?
Isaiah Hernandez
>The Jews were killed, but nowhere near the numbers that's being constantly thrown around.
yes they were. Stop thinking you are an equal in the discussion. Youre a low IQ little boy who is having something he knows nothing about explained to him.
>Poland refused to give Danzig
This is what I mean. Poland didnt even own Danzig, it wasnt theirs to give. Danzig was a independent city state. Hitler invaded Poland because they wouldnt give him a part of their country called the Polish corridor.
You have no idea what you are talking about. You just remember reading something about danzig somewhere+Hitler dindu nuffin so you just throw these two together and spout out shit like that.
Gavin Ramirez
>Wow, we have this thread like every day.
This. They think repeating the SAME EXACT neo-nazi revisionist line for the 198492383743th time is going to OMG BLOW US AWAY!
Luke Thompson
I discussed it with one guy on /pol/ once. About the origins of WWII. The way the documentary presents it is both hilarious and disgusting. Czech and Polish people hunting down poor German minority even as their countries were being overrun.
It's especially annoying because they often post pictures that either don't have a source or they do but it's something extremely vague that can't be found. Finally the guys cited some neo-nazi website that quotes a newspaper (with the exact date given) with some anti-German, pro-war manifesto. Just so happens that I have the access to these archives and posted the entire issue proving it wrong. The entire narrative falls apart once it stops being vague and based on conspiracy.
Carter Scott
>Didn't the UK and France start the World War though? I don't remember Hitler wanting a war with them. He started a war against their ally which meant he started a war against them. Same if Russia invades Turkey which would be an act of war against all Nato members
Alexander Ross
He wanted war with France though. Not the UK but he had a score to settle with France.
Adam Richardson
Watch it and see what you get from it. Why let others form your opinion ?
Evan Hill
ree harder, maybe the fearsome sound of your autistic screeching will send all the ledditors scampering in fear.
Landon Jones
When I was a kid, I used to play parts of games on demodisc, look at the covers of them, and then piece those details together and write my own little comic books with the very little info I had on the game and its story.
Thats basically what stormfags do with WW2.
Jonathan Diaz
Awesome post. Allow me to +1 this post!
Elijah King
Holy crap it actually tries to justify einsatzgruppen. That's gotta be the final stage of the "how much of a Wehraboo are you?" scale. I'm almost impressed.
Josiah Phillips
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Brandon Lewis
>"Hitler's Wehrmach and Waffen SS were in reality the most culturally, ethnically and religiously diverse military forces in Western history." Episode 9. This is gonna be a trippy ride.
Austin Campbell
Sigh. It's quite funny considering you've provided no arguments at all.
>yes they were. Stop thinking you are an equal in the discussion. Youre a low IQ little boy who is having something he knows nothing about explained to him.
You sound like a 12 years old. Reddit is your place to go.
>This is what I mean. Poland didnt even own Danzig, Yes they did, little retard. They owned it in all but name.
By most accounts Hitler was actually quite surprised that they joined the war to defend Poland. He expected them to abstain one more time.
Cameron Wilson
>I want an objective opinion Spot the retard
Oliver Turner
And they did in a way. He expected them to sit back and watch so as they did. It would be unrealistic to assume that they're going to ignore their treaty 100%.
Hudson Wood
>cannister has the skull and cross bones on it. universal symbol for poison
>literally says "poison gas"
>"DUDE ZYKLON B WAS A HARMLESS DELOUSING AGENT!"
so this is the power of stormfaggotry
David Martin
the plan was to use naval supremacy to starve Germany into submission and then use bombers to destroy their industry behind the lines. None expected the USSR to supply them with everything they needed to not only invade Belgium and France, but also take the Netherlands, Denmark and Norway
Lincoln Reyes
>You sound like a 12 years old. Reddit is your place to go.
nice projection
>Yes they did, little retard.
no they didnt. Youre just a really stupid person who thinks hes an expert on a situation he knows nothing about because you watched a youtube video on it.
Brayden Rivera
>"Yet no matter how many bombs the Allies drop on German cities, there will never be a hint of uprising against the Fuhrer." Episode 12
I want off this ride.
Carter Wilson
>nice projection More like a fact. You're proving it time and time agian
>no they didnt. Youre just a really stupid person who thinks hes an expert on a situation he knows nothing about because you watched a youtube video on it.
Here you go... "projecting". If you have nothing to say, than don't say anything at all. There is no reason to showcase your autism with each post.
Dylan Reyes
>"The Germans managed to save thousands [in the Auschwitz] during the outbreak using the pesticide Zyklon B, but the disease is so deadly that the victim's clothing had to be removed after death and burned to destroy the typhus-bearing lice."
I don't support treating WWII as a black and white conflict. I'm fighting against Soviet apologism wherever I can. I don't like when they make Hitler into a comic book villain. But is it too much to ask not to be a complete retard in the other way?
Henry Wood
>By most accounts Hitler was actually quite surprised that they joined the war to defend Poland
Sauce?
Easton Allen
>Here you go... "projecting"
stating historical facts isnt projecting.
Gavin Garcia
>Didn't the UK and France start the World War though? I don't remember Hitler wanting a war with them. No, Britain desperately wanted to avoid a war that would destroy their empire and have a higher cost than WW1. Likewise with France. The problem was that fascism and reasonable people are ideologically incompatible. Much like how Bismarck's German nationalism forced him to take Alsace Lorraine, Hitler's ideology forced him to take up arms.
Ayden Jenkins
>No, Britain desperately wanted to avoid a war that would destroy their empire and have a higher cost than WW1. Likewise with France.
lol no. They were following their Jewish overlords who had control of their banking system and finances.
But that is ironic because it was because of WW2 that their imperialism and colonialism was put to an end.
Jonathan Anderson
>Sigh. It's quite funny considering you've provided no arguments at all. At the rate /pol/ posts on this board just look to the archive if you want 1000 more pieces of evidence proving the Holocaust happened.
Cooper Scott
I stopped watching this about ten minutes in. The constant use of emotional music was too manipulative. If you turn it off and only read the flash cards it becomes a lot less compelling.
Benjamin Green
Britain let hitler build up his military, occupy the rhineland, annex austria, gave them the Sudetenland and also let them take Lithuania
once again, stormfags have no fucking idea what they are talking about and just make shit up as they go.
Joseph Howard
It's sad that without knowing your verbal tone I can't tell if this is sarcasm. The rate /pol/ spiraled at really is incredible.
Joshua Hernandez
Who were their "Jewish overlords", then? I don't want any vague inferences, I want names.
Andrew Morris
>The constant use of emotional music was too manipulative
neo-nazism is predicated on appeals to emotion.
Lincoln Hughes
>projecting this hard
Ryan Reed
I think it mostly uses fragments of other documentaries and movies.
>When you know cool words, but you don't know what they mean
Colton White
>projecting is a "cool word".
Gabriel Carter
>However, three historical events in particular especially damaged the interests of all Rothschild banking families across Europe: 1) the Revolutions of 1848, 2) the Great Depression of the 1930s and 3) Nazism of the late 1930s until the Second World War.
This says that WW2 damaged them especially. Did you read your own source?
Juan Howard
>when you get BTFO and have nothing else to come back with, so you just misuse a buzzword like a jackass
this amazing stormfag intellect of yours is making me take the red pill!
Wyatt Kelly
In your opinion, which one did lobbied for a war against the nazis? Victor?
Jordan Wright
>until the Second World War.
Do you even know how to read to begin with?
Connor Cook
So in what way were the Rothschilds responsible for British foreign policy? How did they effect their aims? Explain it to me.
>So in what way were the head of the financial baking system responsible for British foreign policy?
This isn't a serious question, is it?
Leo Howard
>When you saved cool reaction pics, but you don't know where to use them
Austin Brooks
>until the Second World War. 1930's-1945 >implying the Nazis didn't persecute jews even more once the war ramped up >implying they wouldn't have brought the war around sone if they held the reins in London
>Rothschild sons not only established themselves in the UK but also in Paris, Vienna and Naples in the Two Sicilies. >implying they would have let anti-semetic Nazis take Austria
Now show me real evidence and not a list of names and properties.
Lincoln Foster
>1930's-1945 WW2 literally started late Q3 1939
>>implying the Nazis didn't persecute jews even more once the war ramped up Implying persecuting minorities would be beneficial in times of war against another empire
>>implying they wouldn't have brought the war around sone if they held the reins in London >implying Hitler did not restrain himself from invading London on a full scale
>>Rothschild sons not only established themselves in the UK but also in Paris, Vienna and Naples in the Two Sicilies. Irrelevant
>Implying persecuting minorities would be beneficial in times of war against another empire
yeah, but they still did it. Why do you faggots always pull this line and pretend the actions of Nazi Germany are so ridiculously unrealistic and impossible when they arent at all?
David Diaz
>implying WW1 does not tie into WW2.
Luke Sanchez
>Surprised reddit is here considering the state of /pol/ u having a giggle m8?
Levi Allen
engaging in sophistry to avoid having to admit a simple question isnt an argument.
Jason Wilson
First of all, the Balfour Declaration is one of the most frequently misunderstood artifacts of modern history. Arthur Balfour himself did not write it: it only bears his name as the cabinet minister. Whatever the wisdom in acceding to Zionist demands was, the Declaration was in any event not acted out: the British under the Mandate were loathed by Zionist migrants and seen as being too pro-Arab, betrayers of the Declaration (which was far more important to Zionists than it was to the British foreign office) leading to awful incidents like the King David bombing or the Sergeants' affair. The British retreated from Mandatory Palestine in 1948 precisely because they refused to grant Zionist groups anything more than the two-state solution, triggering a widespread revolt. Second of all, the Balfour Declaration has no relation whatsoever to Hitler nor to Nazi Germany. It was drafted in 1917, two years after the British had already begun the Egyptian campaign in the Great War, where they were already at hostilities with the Ottomans. General Allenby had captured Jerusalem around a month after the Declaration had been delivered to Walter Rothschild. In other words, the Declaration was an opportunistic act that came after the fact: Zionist groups had watched the political situation and realised the Ottomans were on the losing front. The Declaration did not actually compel foreign policy in the first place. So then in what possible way does the Balfour Declaration relate to Hitler, WW2 or British foreign policy in that war? How is it in any sense relevant?
Adrian Phillips
>muh ad hominem
not an argument
Jeremiah Nelson
The question asked is how the Rothschild played a role in Britain's foreign policy. That was just one example.
saying ad hominem isnt an argument user. Just because I call you a name while explaining why you are wrong doesnt mean you are automatically correct.
Notice how you keep having to avoid questions and bitching about semantics? Its because you cant articulate any defense for you silly little internet conspiracy theory
continue to flail around like a retard for our entertainment though. Its funny watching you guys try to think
Dominic Nelson
Yes it is, asking a biased source their opinion on the opposing biased source is ridiculous. That fact that board exists is reactionary as fuck.
Joseph Perez
I smell the leddit in this post
Blake Jackson
WW2 was not a continuation of WW1. They were very different wars.
Adrian Foster
>WW2 literally started late Q3 1939 Not what I said. It talks about the period of Nazism until WW2. Reading comprehension is a bitch, huh? >Implying persecuting minorities would be beneficial in times of war against another empire Yeah, it never happened. Oh except for the Armenian genocide, Anglo concentration camps, and Holocaust to name a few of very, very many. >Irrelevant The Rothschilds having vested interests in territories seized by the Nazism before WW2 changes destroys the argument that the war was fought for their interests. They would have started the war before the Nazis seized their assets there if it was the case. It dismantles your reddit-tier "le joo shekels" conspiracy completely. >implying Germans did not arrest a Rothschild in Austria That vindicate my point that the Rothschilds would have stopped the Nazism sooner if the war was fought over their interests. A lot of their shot was liquidated or redistributed before WW2, and they would have fought to stop it earlier if they were in control.
Nicholas Watson
>you silly little internet conspiracy theory
Another ad hominem once again.
Hello JIDF. Long time no see.
Isaac Hernandez
>"le joo shekels" conspiracy
Another JIDF. Working overtime, are we?
Justin Walker
>Reading comprehension is a bitch, huh?
This much self projecting butt hurt.
Brody Sanders
You have to be over 18 to use this site.
Adam Russell
I was referring explicitly to British foreign policy in WW2. You claimed that the British "were following their Jewish overlords" in declaring on Germany. You've explained neither the motive nor the means, and you linked a non-sequitur to the Balfour Declaration which predated the war by over thirty years. If a Rothschild were responsible for British policy against Germany then you should be able to provide evidence for it.
Brody Thomas
Not an argument
Julian Lewis
not an argument. Youre still failing at defending your silly little internet conspiracy theory
Gabriel Clark
The fact that jews gravitate towards banking was an unavoidable aspect of Christian ethics. There is no conspiracy in it, a wealthy and educated minority endso up disproportionately on the top. I'mean not JIDF, and I find it funny you think that shills (if they are widespread, which I doubt) would even go to a board like Veeky Forums that sees 10% of the traffic of /pol/.
Kayden Torres
And here it is. When the stormfag realizes that their shilling didnt work, all their revisionist memes got BTFO, and they basically made asses of themselves so they just start calling everyone a jew
Joseph Cooper
>he thinks head of the financial banking interest groups would play no role in foreign policies