WAGECUCKS

Probably because you spelled pajeet wrong.

honestly aspiring to retire and sit at home and do nothing is the worst idea unless you have a group of friends who are able to do the same with you.. sitting at home every day gets depressing really quick

Self-preservation shenanigans aka damage control.

As someone who has spent several years neet I can tell you they are actually right. It starts out awsome of course, but depending on the person, eventually gets pretty boring and depressing. it took me 2 years before I could admit to myself I was not enjoying it anymore. And this was only after feeling anxious and depressed for months and not knowing why, thinking I had some sort of health problems.. Only when I regularely started going out and doing shit every day did I start feeling normal again.

That's because you're hardwire to be a wagecuck.

Been a neet for 5 years now and it's amazing not having to do shit but the stuff I actually want to do. You need other people to tell you what to do so you can have some vague sense of meaning, I just tell myself what to do for the same ends. I've just started drawing and editing video because I always thought it was cool as fuck and just because I wanted to. You wagecucks would only ever do such a thing if your boss told you to, which would become an exercise in frustration rather than something delightful and that you'd truly appreciate on your own terms.

> and can still get any job I want
Bad news kid - 3 years of doing nothing makes you unhireable

I love my job - the hours are flexible and I make 74k + 30-45k commission on consulting gigs. I use my degree. My boss respects me. My co-workers and I go out for drinks. My gf ducks me like she never did when we were in college.

I'm the happiest I've ever been - I wake up every day excited knowing my life is better then it was the day before.

Do like 10 hours of real work a week. get paid a full salary. get fucked NEET niggers

You can't circumvent the system. And the system I mean is the fact all humans are "hardwired" to need to go outside and interact with other humans on a regular basis.

>My gf ducks me like she never did when we were in college.
For a second I was wondering why you were happy about your gf avoiding you

> Thinking because you have a job you have no time for your interests
It's amazing how much free time you have when you don't sleep for 14 hours, Masterbate to cuck porn for 3 hours, and scream at your mommy for allowance every day.

>all humans are "hardwired" to need to go outside and interact with other humans on a regular basis.
Most, but not all, and that's what Veeky Forums is for anyways.

Sorry - I'm on my phone. Usually only shit post at the gym.

>You can't circumvent the system

More like you can't circumvent the fact that you're so hardwired to be a wagecuck you think that you need a job in order to interact with other people.

I thought I was the only one who did Veeky Forums at the gym

This doesn't count as interacting kiddo.

wagecuck reporting in.

Got into crypto 3 weeks ago. Literally the worst fucking time.

Yea, gotta have something to do between sets. Honestly I just turn my screen brightness really low so people can't see and read threads like this - all the sadness and pity I feel for NEETs inspires me to lift harder.

Not even the person you replied to, I love watching the LARPing on this board between sets

>shower, eat, commute, work, commute 5 days a week
>maybe a few hours of free time each night before bed
>wake up exhausted close to the afternoon Saturday
>do chores, by groceries, eat food, etc
>maybe 8-10 hours of truly free time
>go to bed, wake up a little earlier Sunday because you have to be on schedule Monday
>feel a little more energetic and have a little more free time, but now you're just counting down the hours until you have to go to bed
Not that much time. Realistically most people spend more like 50 hours a week dedicated to work due to all the other bullshit like travel that isn't counted. Now spend another 50-60 sleeping. Another 10-15 doing other life necessities. Congrats, you're allowed to spend maybe 15% of your life on things you want to do!

lold

Kek

same here. i wagecuck for about 90k a year and I'm only 24. Most of my extra money goes into stocks but i throw a little in crypto for fun. If all my crypto goes to zero it would affect me in any meaningful way.

feels good to be a wagecuck

Honestly there's a lot of bullshit on this board, but this is completely true - sorry if it sounds like bragging but here was my day:
> Wake up at 7:45 am next to my f2f
> We have morning sex because we were out too late last night and were too tired
> Shower
> Gf feeds the pets and makes cinnamon buns while I get dressed and watch Netflix
> Eat
> Take out trash
> Commute 4 minutes to work
> Talk with my coworker about the new Spiderman movie
> Begin work
> I work in a lab so I'm ordering samples and preparing a power point to present at a national conference later this month
> Go to Old Chicago with co-workers for lunch
> Go back to work that I'm passionate about and that could help millions of Americans that have strokes due to atypical plaque build-up and release
> Talk with a surgeon about next weeks procedure
> Talk with the vet tech about the pigs
> Get off work at 3:45
> Read sad stories on Biz while I lift

Honestly if you think that's too much to handle then you really should start working on yourself. I love my life. And everyone has a story like this. The job may be different, the hours may be different, but having a job is extremely manageable and often enjoyable.

As someone who has spent 10 years as a neet I can tell you that that you are either unimaginative, or hardwired to be miserable unless lashed. It took me 2 years to break the conditioning and admit that I do not want to waste my time working for others; that everyone who has the means not to do it and still does is an enormous cuck.

After that realization every day has been better that the last. I don't have to put up with traffic, simplistic morons you call coworkers, dickheaded bosses and long, boring hours. I do exactly what I want to do, when I want to do it. Sometimes I am even able to monetize my hobbies, but even if I couldn't I would continue doing them.
But keep with the hard work, wagie. You are doing it for yourself, because it makes you happy, right?

How do I stop being a wage cuck?

is this a meme or are there people who live like this? If you don't like your job why don't you just get a better job? As long as you're not a complete brainlet you can make decent money

You become a NEET

Why "get a job" when you have the means to not need on? Is this a meme or there are cucks who live like this?

Lol. Thats called a hobby bruv, wagecucks can afford lots of them. Using their wages.

*Need it. Fucking autocorrect

if you have your own business or something that's great, but i don't see how living off of welfare can be appealing.

Where I live neets don't get welfare. I inherited a few properties and I move around my money reasonably smart. I'm pretty frugal though, so most of my gains go to my rainy day fund.

why are you so angry about other people's lifestyles if you chose your own? if you talked to most people in a decent career, yes they are happy with their work output and the overall experience, despite having to deal with ***traffic*** (wow that would be so difficult for you!)

NEETs are usually the rejects. Here you say you essentially manage properties/accounts which is technically a job So are you dumb or just making shit up?

>arrive at work at 9:30
>eat free cereal for half an hour
>get a request to write a script to check for files with a certain header or similar bullshit
>copy paste 90% of it from old scripts
>spend 5 minutes writing the last 10%.
>"wow thanks user, you did that pretty quickly"
>"i just really like working i guess"
>browse the internet for hours until i get another request. rinse and repeat.
>go home at 5

It's almost fun. I might be underpaid at 55k but i dont think i'll ever have an easier job in my life.

>you essentially manage properties/accounts which is technically a job
Here come the Internet Retirement Police!

I'm with morally, I am literally doing a job that I would do for free (well, I might be less reliable about it if I didn't like the money), and that I was doing for free for years before I was hired to do it. At this point I no longer need any income but I keep on doing it, and if my company went away I'd keep on doing it.

>be me
>be freelancer
>can do whatever I want as long as shit gets done
>sleep in until 11AM every day
>work from home, sometimes go to the office
>make good money and enjoy my job

fuck its really terrible being a wagecuck

I'm not hating it, because the colleagues are great and the boss is a cool guy and actually tries hard to meet the wishes of us workerbees. But I'm anxious and apprehensive about living this kind of month-by-month life with no real major breakthrough if this trend continues. A wagecuck life is good enough to offer the majority of people what they want - a stable life with wife and kids and a dog and a couple vacations. Manageable loans, leased car and new phones, clothes for the kids and themselves and so on and so forth.

But I don't want that. I despise the thought of having kids when I'm not financially secure enough to provide them with all the opportunities to develop as a person that I can. I don't want that beautiful average life. I just want to be relatively wealthy, travel, do things at my own pace, not worry about bills or rent, ride a bicycle on a nice summer day without the looming thought of having to go back in to work the next morning and so on.

I am busting my ass to make sure I get there. I will not fail. Fuck the wagecuck life. It's honestly not even BAD per se, but fuck it. I desire freedom.

Easy. You start by investing in some kneepads. Figure it out from there.

I got out of high school, fucked around for awhile, had some fun, partied alot. Settled down later on, got a job in sales... now I make 135K a year working from 9 to 5:30 every day in wholesale. Its a super easy job, i work with good people and its fun, and i make a shit ton of money. About to buy my second rental property, drive a nice car, go on vacations - go camping, hang out after work and on weekends with friends, have a hot wife and daughter

but yeah.. being a fat fucking slob living in a dark cave 24 hours a day, splitting time between the internet, jerking off to traps and taking 12 naps a day sounds MUCH better than my life. fucking retards

How do I do this? You just described my dream life.

nice larp faggot
>135k
>wife and daughter
>make a shit ton of money

pick 2

I think the problem with NEETs I'd that after highschool they were scared to go into the real world. Maybe they got a shitty retail job for a few months - this is where their warped perception of what adults do comes into play. If you're over the age of 20 and you still work those intentionally shitty jobs then you fucked up.

Most jobs are fun and easy.

>works in a lab
The Dream

lol, a healthy, happy person on this board who clearly is not LARPing. it's a miracle.

i would be.

old but gold

probably cuz the design is shit. hit me up if you need an actual graphic designer

The problem is that NEETs have difficulty socializing and rather than confront their anxiety, they'd rather just isolate themselves and play vidya. Years pass and they realize they became those 30 something year old brony neckbeards they never thought they'd be.

Natural selection is still very much a thing these days, it just uses different methods to weed out the weak

user, i....

is it really that bad?

>tfw considering becoming a pilot so I can have a job I enjoy and have disposable income to throw at investments
>tfw happy wagecucks do exist and I will be a rich happy wagecuck

What job do you have? What is your definition of a full salary?

It starts earlier than highschool. People who grow up with minimal/no responsibilities and spoiled by their parents are more likely to become NEETs. Their warped perception of reality comes from their lazy and pampered lifestyle. They develop a strong sense of entitlement, thinking that the world owes them. They constantly see themselves as victims and the underdogs. The entertainment and whatever other media they consume exacerbate this attitude. If anything doesn't go their way, they automatically claim victimhood and the opposite side as aggressors/villains. They only see reality in black and white. There's no middle ground for them because that would mean that they're at least partially culpable for their own condition. This is how they cope. They play the blame game.

>monday - friday
>wake up at 7 am and go be dev at buzzfeed tier media corporation
>spend entire day implementing ways to make users stare at advertisements for fractions of a second longer
>write highly advanced, modern javascript (node, react, redux, webpack) and the end result is articles about Justin Biebers dick
>get home at 7 pm, smoke weed, masturbate and play video games til 3 am

I feel like shit because I get 4-5 hrs sleep each night , and I spend all weekend catching up on sleep and avoiding my friends.

I'm so tired, I just want to quit and find work that doesn't need to make sure im a cuck clocking in at 9 am like a good goy. People tell me "just fix your sleep schedule" but I've tried everything, quitting weed, turning off all electronics after 10pm, no fap, taking melatonin, going to the gym, yoga fucking everything AND I JUST CANT FUCKING DO IT I JUST WANT TO BE A NEET AGAIN WHO SLEEPS AT 6 AM AND CODES STUPID GAMES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT WHY DID I HAVE TO MAKE A FUCKING JOB OUT OF THIS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

work someplace cooler faggit

if your a dev and you guys don't go out for drinks every week ya working at the wrong place

I am a dev but my coworkers are all old and don't go out. Like age 40-61

yeah sounds lame as fuck. you know now even shitty companies are going 'google' with the office shit, standing desks and what not

What do you do for consulting? And are you secure in the case of a recession/depression?

No one is saying good jobs don't exist, but if you think that's normal or that everyone can do cutting-edge research, you're dreaming. I mean, from beginning to leaving work you spend like 7 hours there, with a lunch break in the middle, and then half the remaining time shooting the shit? Either you're very talented/intelligent/productive, have connections with your employer, or are just coasting in a boom market while your coworkers pick up slack.

and here come the excuses for failure. sad

it's incredibly bad dude. i'm sorry.

What excuses? I'm just trying to find a believable explanation of that guy's story. He's an American and is implying that he works a 35 hour week in a laboratory setting. Most labs are big on overtime and crunching, which means even a standard 40 hour week would be only during lighter workloads.

Good goy

Former insomniac. I was very much like you user, basically had a shit sleeping schedule during high school and when I started to live on my own it just got worse. So here's my advice.

Run. Just run until you're exhausted, and in the sunlight if you can. Going to the gym makes you more sore than tired imo. Also try doing something like math or reading a book. Anything that will tire your eyes. Avoid screens, and try to sleep in the dark with a mask or sheet over your eyes (it also helps to make the room cold). Play music/fan if it helps.

You don't want to exercise within 3 hours before sleep, because it'll raise your heart rate (also bad to have it change fast). Try curling your toes, and raising your legs/arms in the air until they're too heavy to lift.

Also helps to quit smoking. Obviously you didn't quit if you're still smoking. At least try to smoke indica. But I found that once my tolerance rose, I was just goofing off/jerking it and basically wasting my time smoking more and staying up later as it wouldn't hit me hard enough to make me tired. Fixing my sleep schedule totally helped me turn my life around. Definitely noticed the energy difference.

I'm no graphic designer but it looks really amateur even to someone that doesn't care about that kind of stuff like me

seriously. if someone sent me this as their design i would be offended.

:( i will do better next time, i wonder if there's a way i could test if it's shit or not

You been serious that its your design?or shitting with us?

just post it here. it's risk free and no one has any reason to lie to you. you should be doing designs pretty much constantly as practice though. make up fictional companies and do designs for them.

Want to know what's better than loving your business?

REVENUE.

What are you doing to get clients?
I can help you.

oh, and we really shouldn't have to tell you this, but if you're working exclusively in MS Paint, you're never going to make anything worthy of legitimate clientele. you need to research design software and learn that stuff thoroughly.

Definitely the worst logo I've seen yet.

If you want it done right for $5 - - google fiverr logo design

I'm glad it's not crypto meme coin however hahah.

Good start.

Whenever I see shit like this I just want to take Veeky Forums under my wing or bring them into my next company. It would be legendary.

nah fuck that. google fiverr logo design and get it done by a professional for $5.

I've used fiverr for a company that I started up now doing 8k a month. The logos are usually awesome.

no more to it.

Fuck you described me a little user, I'm just 19 but discovered crypto 1 month ago, I saw all these "easy gain", didn't made much because of the crash. Is it really bad if I want to gain money by myself and not working for the minimum wage ? Or working 5 more years at school to gain $1000 more dollars...

Who's going to take care of you after your parents pass away?

>Obviously you didn't quit if you're still smoking
I quit when I started this job (10 months ago) and only started again 2 months ago, so I was fully clean for 8 months.

>running
>fan
>music
>reading
>avoid screens

I appreciate your advice and I'm happy you managed to fix yourself, but I've tried all these methods. It really does feel like my brain is hard wired to be its most focused and alert at night, and I wonder if I'd be happier building a lifestyle around my sleeping habits, rather than forcing a square peg in a round hole.

I would fucking CLEAN and and COOK and get fucking RIPPED if I could sit at home all day. fuck, I want it. I need a sugar momma so I can be a stay at home husband and shitpost while trading cryptos and getting Veeky Forums.

It's simple.

The environment you grew up in shaped you because you weren't aware of the subconscious factors that comes with every moment and every interaction.

You can only blame your past for so long.

I grew up in a single mother household low income, dad commit suicide when I was 17, and my brother is suffering from terminal illness.

That did not stop me from learning and guiding others to making 6-figures.

I've been self-employed since 2015 when I made my first 6-figures.

The only reason this worked is because I made the CHOICE not to let my environment influence me negatively.

You must do the same to succeed.

holy fuck i took a class for design in hs and didnt do shit in that class and i did way better. only a fucking pleb would do shit like that. i designed the school homecoming tshirt, designed some clothing stores black friday shirt, made about 3 logos for people and even i wouldnt go into that kinda stuff for a job. i never had to try, fuck some people just suck.

It is bad because it's not sustainable in the long term. Sure, you can possibly gain a lot of money in crypto, but it's delusional to think that this is "a way out". It's no different than gambling.

there's actually websites that auto pilot this shit and make it look professional.

I'm surprised people can't even google this first.

pilot is a tough track

if i went that route id just join the airforce

ive looked into it and its competitive

Can you make me rich, user?

SOMEONE IS UPSET ABOUT THE WAGESLAVE VS NEET THREAD I MADE EARLIER

SORRY NEETS YOU WILL ALWAYS LOSE TO THE WAGESLAVE

I'm on a mission so apologize for ignoring everyone. But, does anyone have the smoking hot picture of 3 girls in a club and one of them has pants worth no ass on th and you can see her amazing tan line? I need that RIGHT NOW.

Computer tech here.

I listen to nigger hip hop all day and fix and build pcs for about 43k/yr.

I'm underpaid as shit but do what I want. Time flies.

Its pretty fun I do check stocks on me phone every hourish I usually forget about the time.

So I can pay some dude to make it for $5 and sell it for $100? Cause that sounds profitable and doesn't make me look like an ass.

I started last Monday. Cold emailed some real estate agents and skin laser clinics. No reply from anyone. I attach designs of the website to add value to the cold email, which I rip off from theme forest and simplified. I added their logo to it to give it a personal touch. All that burned me the fuck out cause no leads.

I'm thinking of the fb ad approach you mentioned to me in the other thread. Pretty much spent the last 6 hours making notes on how to do it right from kissmetrics and other places. Pretty much make a good ad with a non stock image face, a good landing page, test different ads and choose interests that are super related and specific, don't bid much until you know what ads give high ctr.

You've been pretty helpful thusfar and I just joined the board today. So thanks homie, gladly would go under your wing senpai.

this guy knows whats up

daz it mang

id say if u can find some side income ur set

At the very least, never have broken corners/lines that go past where they're supposed to, and have everything align. If you're submitting a first draft to a prospective client then I understand not wanting to waste time on all the finishing touches, but *never* submit shoddy work to a customer, because it reflects on what you can do.

Also, I just noticed that the window panes on the house in the logo are not symmetrical. If you can't be bothered to even use "align center" and whatnot, graphics design is not for you. And I'm saying this as a graduate student that fucking hates graphics design and fucking around getting everything neat and perfect, but has to do it for the papers I submit to journals. I'm not trying to hold down competition or anything like that, but graphics design requires a very specific kind of mind, patient, high attention to details, and strong sense of spatial reasoning. If you don't have all three of those qualities, just find another line of work more suited to you rather than suffering in something not meant for you.