And what's the fucking accomplishment there? How literally did everything he could to lose this war...

Is Howe landing on Long Island and not on Manhattan(thereby cutting off Washington's escape route) or ordering a halt to his subordinates who chased the American army part of Washington's genius? Or that Howe didn't even try to engage him most of the time?

So this is shitposting

The only reason Americans won the war is because the Comte de Grasse broke the naval blockade and landed 10,000 French regulars at Saratoga, causing the British to be outnumbered by almost 3:1.
The cost of the war to the French was so catastrophic that the country plunged into starvation and famine and led directly to the Revolution when it was discovered Necker had been cooking the books. The Americans STILL didn't have the integrity to pay the French back when they were on their feet (probably because it was to the tune of billions) and in fact they almost started a war with France over it.
There should really be an "eternal Burger" meme because if there's one nation in the world that is actually, genuinely perfidious it's the US.

Sorry, I meant Yorktown, not Saratoga*.

so Howe was a double agent? what's going on here?

>Try to land in Manhattan.
>Get sunk by cannon on the coast
>Get shot at as you try to disembark
>Thinks this is a good plan
It didn't work at Sullivan's island and there's no reason to believe it would have worked in Manhattan.

The Whigs (and crypto-Whigs) in the North ministry were against the war altogether. I don't know about Howe but it almost certainly had an influence on how things turned out.

Yeah, they were so powerfully against the war that they raised a force almost as big as the entire English army that existed before the war to put down these colonial upstarts.

if you think 50k soldiers is a lot then you're retarded

americanrevolution.org/britisharmy1.php

Compared to the forces that existed pre-war, and were scattered around the globe, it's actually pretty big. For a campaign that has to be conducted across an ocean's breadth, it's massive. You look at campaigns against the Marathas in around the same time period, and you often see forces in the low thousands, and 4/5 of those are locals, not British.

Go on, show me an 18th century war where a European power committed 60,000 troops from the home country to fight across a body of water.

Parliament was not a strongman system, there were various factions that could bolster or cripple a given ministry even if it had full confidence in the Commons. The North ministry was staffed with Whigs who not only wanted peace with the colonies but actively sympathised with the American cause. Burke (ironically famed for his conservatism) had even sponsored multiple bills seeking full redress and ceding to every American demand. There had been two attempts to offer peace by negotation in the Staten Island conference and the much more serious Carlisle Commission, where the Americas would've had total self-rule and independent parliamentary representation, however impractical.
The Whigs hated North in large part because he mediated a middling, wishy-washy compromise between the various voices in parliament, two of which could be said to be "extreme", which is why he lost a vote of confidence and was replaced by a Whig government before the war had even ended.