My theory on Germans

You guys keep saying that Germans are evil or barbaric or whatever. I think it's different.

I think Germans are just very obedient and complacent. They do whatever they are told and whatever they are given, to the best of their abilities.

Consider the fact that Germany has never had a major civil war or successful revolution, apart from the parliamentary nonsense of 1919 that the average German didn't care about.

For Germans, rebelling against authority isn't a concept. When they get told to do something, they do it and they do it to the best of their abilities.

Like, when someone like Hitler tells them to go kill all the Jews, they all know it's a bad thing, but they do it because orders are orders and they intrinsically can't disobey orders. And they go over the top with it. Whereas countries like Russia when they sperg out at the Jews, they do it in isolated uncontrolled outbursts and pogroms. When Germans get a general order to kill the Jews, they organise this highly efficient and neat structure to doing it to maximise efficiency.

If Russia wanted to kill Jews, they'd just send some angry peasants and soldiers to do it. When Germany wants to kill Jews, they build a huge network of railways, build all these factories, create a huge beuracracy to manage it, autistically keep paperwork and documents for each minor thing.

After the war they get told that nationalism and racism is bad. They accept that and go over the top with it, shunning the flag, banning patriotism and flooding the country with foreigners.

They get told to march to war they don't want and know they'll lose, but they go and fight to the death in it anyway.

Whenever a tiny dispute arises, whether it's Denmark, France, Russia, Poland, the answer is always full fledged open war. There's no concept of middle ground for them, it's either all in or nothing.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmalkaldic_War
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Peasants'_War
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peaceful_Revolution
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Prussians
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>It is amazing indeed. Gold is a very valuable commodity. You are very powerful and I have no choice but to submit to my servile instincts and become your vassal.

>tfw you realize that Germans are literally children, and that their occasional chimpouts happen when Germans are in charge and go full Lord of the Flies

>Consider the fact that Germany has never had a major civil war
"germany" WAS a civil war for most of history.

Tell a German speaker in the 1700s that Germany would be a country and they'd keel over laughing.

>Consider the fact that Germany has never had a major civil war or successful revolution, apart from the parliamentary nonsense of 1919 that the average German didn't care about.

Peasants War and wars of religion of religion would count as civil wars. 1933 can be seen as a revolution achieved through the ballot and on the street - why didn't the obedient Germans just do what their Republican leaders told them to? The events of 1989 are also a case of mass civil disobedience, as was the uprising in 1953.

>apart from the parliamentary nonsense of 1919 that the average German didn't care about.

Where did you get that idea? And the events of 1918 (Kiel mutiny) and 1919 were not just "parliamentary nonsense".

>Like, when someone like Hitler tells them to go kill all the Jews, they all know it's a bad thing,

Disregarding the question whether there even was a 'Holocaust order' from Hitler, the planners of the Holocaust didn't think it was bad, at most they regarded it as a necessary evil.

>Whereas countries like Russia

The Tsarist government didn't plan a genocide against the Jews, they just wanted to use them as occaisonal scapegoats to divert discontent away from the regime. Of course it's going to take different forms

>If Russia wanted to kill Jews, they'd just send some angry peasants and soldiers to do it

I don't know if it would be possible to do it that way, but why does it make a difference?

>After the war they get told that nationalism and racism is bad. They accept that and go over the top with it, shunning the flag, banning patriotism and flooding the country with foreigners.

As opposed to the white nationalist governments in the rest of Western Europe?

>Whenever a tiny dispute arises, whether it's

>Denmark
limited war, appropriate response
>France
You're talking about 1870? Started by France
>Russia
You're referring to WWI? Not caused by a tiny dispute; there were a bunch of crises before WWI that didn't lead to war
>Poland
Neither

>Tell a German speaker in the 1700s that Germany would be a country and they'd keel over laughing.

Not really. Germany was considered a country by everyone

>I think Germans are just very obedient and complacent. They do whatever they are told and whatever they are given, to the best of their abilities.
Is this why the Holy Roman Empire was what it was- a loose confederacy of German Kingdoms, Duchies, Marches, Counts, and Free Cities obsessed with their individual rights and liberties- as opposed to the other Europeans who were easily unified by their kings?

> never had a major civil war

Sure, if by country you mean "group of states with a shared language"

The more accurate version of the guy you quoted would be
>Tell a German speaker in the 1700s that Germany would be a nation and they'd keel over laughing

Also wrong, it was common to speak of a German nation.

he said, citing absolutely no sources whatsover and generally just shits on the discussion

>Consider the fact that Germany has never had a major civil
What are the Protestant rebellions?

OP, you have autism

you compare the germans to the russians and in my opinion they're pretty similar endgame, but they're still a little bit different.

russians do take pleasure in being evil - which they inherently are. germans on the other hand do it but they're not even entirely sure why... i mean, they hate everyone else, sure, but they also have a conscience with some very dim traces of empathy telling them that's probably not something they should do - but they still do it anyway.

anyway, add turkey and you have the holy trinity of the most unredeemable cancerous and repulsive people/nations in the world and the best places to be used as ground zero for a nuclear test.

>russians do take pleasure in being evil - which they inherently are.
stfu you faggot.

vladimir pls
you know that's true. russians lack the ability to feel other people emotions and they're unable to develop empathy with any other being... and that's the price of pay for a forced evolution since the first miserable human being touched that forsaken soil.

still, being chaotic in your ways isn't always bad. brazil does it too, but unlike russia they're not inherently evil so they just huehue everywhere they go and are usually seen as goofy people that light up any room they enter

anyway, russia will never be a real threat to the world since they lack the both the mental and physical structure to cause any mayhem outside their borders. the germans on the other hand are the best at that and will turn on the heat virtually over night

A nation STATE, user.

It's completely true though more then half of the population loves Putin who honestly hates Russia and took billions into his bank account from how own people as long as there is vodka they're fine in any predicament their leader sees fit

Did Protestants get btfo that badly?

>forced evolution
>Brazil
>goofy people
Wtf are you even doing

Both of the posts are just missing the word "state" which would be the best one to use. You could argue about a German 'nation' (common cultural / linguistic ties) and country ('land of the germans'), but it wasn't a uniform German state until it was made so.

In any case the guy is basically making an ignorant argument that purposely leaves out all of Germany's myriad internal conflicts up until it actually became a state under the Prussians.

They just don't care about a corrupt but effective leader. Many of Russians consider politics to be 'that's none of my business, he seems to know what he's doing'.

The answer to the riddle of the Germans is simple: They have no brains, culture, or souls.

What were Prussians ethnically?

N-I-G-G-E-R-S

Communism is hell of a drug
russians were always born for communism in a twisted kind of way

Germans

>Consider the fact that Germany has never had a major civil war or successful revolution
>you: in charge of history
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmalkaldic_War
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Peasants'_War
>After the war they get told that nationalism and racism is bad.
They also got taught Socialism is good. Guess what happened. One of the revolutions you stated didn't happen.
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peaceful_Revolution
Baltics: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Prussians
The notion of Prussian values is self affirmed however it's well researched that those values were actually imported by Calvinists from France and the Netherlands. After some time their values were taken for being "Prussian" and later on for being German. However this contradicts OPs retarded thesis and doesn't treat the world like a cartoon.

What the fuck is this thread? Why would you post this retarded "theory" on Veeky Forums

I feel like most of Veeky Forums is Italians Jews chinks Arabs and French/Brit so natarally hatred of Germans is just a part of the culture on this board.

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I don't disagree.

This post basically refutes everything OP said. OP's theory is dumb.

it is true that Germans are seen as ridiculously law abiding and respecting of authority.

Stories of Germans not crossing a street when the traffic lights are in red, even if it is 3 am and there is no traffic at all, are very common.
Like a Spaniard, an Italian, and a German are walking together late at night past mdinight after a party, suddenly the Spaniard and Italian realized they lost their German friend, and he was some blocks begind because he morally refused to cross the streets if there were red traffic lights.

Germans also see the science of Economy as a relatively small part of moral philosophy. And dont understand how running a country (or a group of countries like the EU) should and must be very different from running a household.
For example for Germany everybody should be like them and have trade surpluses, a virtuous thing, but it is mathematically impossible, illogical.

>Consider the fact that Germany has never had a major civil war

The Wars of Religion? The Liberal Revolutions of the 1840's? The Unification Wars waged by Bismarck? Not to mention the centuries of near-constant internal warfare under the HRE.

before the 19th century there wasnt really that much of a common german identity,it was no differet than germany and austria today,so you cant really call that civil wars.And the franco-prussian war wasnt really a civil war either.

This is all a bunch of shit! Hitler never gave any written or spoken order to kill the Jews, and there never were 6 million living in Europe. The whole thing was made up, possibly including the very existence of a man named "Hitler."

By the way, those "blonde" girls are fake. They bleach their hair and have brown eyes. I'll bet that picture wasn't even taken in Germany.

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No natural white-blonde can tan like that.

Does a single one of you fucking know Germans? xD

OP where do you come from to judge Germans like this?

Explain Scandinavians then. They get very brown. Google it and you'll see

>No natural white-blonde can tan like that.
What?

They are from Munich according to reverse google image search

it's a history board i was hoping i didn't have to write every single word but mass famines, the weather, genocides by czars and similar shitheads that ruled russia with iron fist, etc served many purposes but in the end all combined did something far greater than that: an artificial evolution

needless to say, most traces of mankind were left behind in this homicidal race and this is why the average russian is no more than a cross between a hooligan and a viking

>I will finally world relevance by becoming the most loyal servant of the pope and give him all my money.
I think OP is on to something.

>Consider the fact that Germany has never had a major civil war
Umm, about that...

>No natural white-blonde can tan like that.

Sounds like Asians desu

>From the German Nationalist perspective of history, Pre-Unification Germany was a "failed nation" because it took a bitch ass long time to unite the German states
>"I think Germans are just very obedient and complacent. They do whatever they are told and whatever they are given, to the best of their abilities."

Germans existed in different tribes, states and regions to avoid exactly that OP. Back in the 18th and the first half of the 19th century was the German peoples happiest and most prosperous era, precisely because they had no hive mind mentality, due to their political and cultural localism.

It all went downwards when they unified, and the Anglo played their autistic instincts like a fiddle.

>The notion of Prussian values is self affirmed however it's well researched that those values were actually imported by Calvinists from France and the Netherlands. After some time their values were taken for being "Prussian" and later on for being German.
No, those values evolved from Teutonic chivalry.

>"As a people made up of the most extraordinary mixing and mingling of races, perhaps even with a preponderance of the pre-Aryan element as the "people of the centre" in every sense of the term, the Germans are more intangible, more ample, more contradictory, more unknown, more incalculable, more surprising, and even more terrifying than other peoples are to themselves: - they escape definition and are thereby alone the despair of the French."

>"The German soul has passages and galleries in it, there are caves, hiding places, and dungeons therein, its disorder has much of the charm of the mysterious, the German is well acquainted with the bypaths to chaos."

>"It is even part of my ambition to be considered as the despiser of the German par excellence."

-Nietzsche

What did he know that we don't?

>I hate Krauts who disagree with me but i hate other countries even mor

I'm starting to see a pattern here

This just proves that germans are the biggest autismotrons out there

No, Celts tan like shit. Germans can be straight matte sand colored and still have blue eyes and blonde/dirty blond hair. Germanic-heavy English have the same gene.

The Unification Wars entailed more than the mere franco-prussian war, retard

>Consider the fact that Germany has never had a major civil war or successful revolution,

What an uneducated post.

Most Germans spent a thousand years living in a descentralized political entity that wasn't a State in the modern sense, but a network of prerrogatives and jurisdictions, with a degree of autonomy being given to bodies like the Church, free imperial cities, some peasant communities and even sovereign individuals in the case of the Imperial Knights.

Germans were known at that time by their merriness, their art, their love and liberty. It was Prussia that ruined everything and created the stereotype of the stiff, obedient German. But Prussia wasn't really German, most of it stood outside the Holy Roman Empire and they were just Germanized Slavs.

don't know, but if you type in "teutsche nation" in google books you get plenty of hits from before 1800

Nigga u went full retard

>I think Germans are just very obedient and complacent. They do whatever they are told and whatever they are given, to the best of their abilities.

So they're like 99% of the rest of humanity?

Neither Germans nor the rest of humanity are very obedient and complacent. It's hard-coded, almost nature-like, oedipal cycle.

idk where to even begin with this retarded thread. "germany" was at war with itself for most of that region's history until the 19th century, they were never united until then. Furthermore they were the catalyst for hundreds of years of religious civil wars, thanks Martin Luther.

keked

This.

kinda yeah. catholics started that war in great fighting shape, the protestants took quite a while to get into gear.

Except that Germans were so not obedient that they refused to give their emperor full rights to control them.

>But Prussia wasn't really German, most of it stood outside the Holy Roman Empire and they were just Germanized Slavs.

And Protestant Frenchmen who came as refugees in Brandenburg.
Up until the Napoleonic era Berlin was a Francophone city, then they switched to German out of spite.

So pre-1815 Prussian was a bizarre mishmash of former Polabian Slavs and Baltic Prussians, Poles and Frenchmen.