they had some influence in the early middle ages, that much is true and at one point Cordoba was the largest city in Europe and one of the largest in the world but the cultural or scientific influence of the Moors and Arabs in general is hugely exaggerated in pop-history
Nathaniel Smith
The 'Moors' were Arabs and Berbers.
Logan Sanders
Painting foreigners the artist never saw before as exotic and outlandish as possible is common throughout history. Other non-ethnic/racial examples are artists from other time periods making art of historical battles from centuries ago, like the Biblical tales of the Macjiowski Bible. All the soldiers are in 13th century armour/weapons, all are white. Other subtler examples are artists from 100 years later portraying people in their contemporary clothing, etc.
Gabriel Nguyen
Every notable Moor was Berber or Arab, not black
Justin Watson
Arab and Berber are socio-lingusitic groupings not hard fast terms denoting any particular phenotype
Gabriel Ward
are you guys sure they were not black
but what about the Moorish Science Temple
"The Moorish Science Temple of America is an American national and religious organization founded by Noble Drew Ali, born Timothy Drew. He based it on the belief that African Americans were allegedly descended from the Moors of North West Africa and thus were Moorish by nationality, and Islamic by faith. Ali put together elements of major traditions to develop a message of personal transformation through historical education, racial pride and spiritual upliftment. His doctrine was also intended to provide African Americans with a sense of identity in the world and to promote civic involvement."
Berbers used to be a race of pallid ginger people, according to the Egyptians and the last Canarias surviving population of isolated Berbers.
The furthest you can go for WE WUZing in Andalusia are the slave soldiers which were niggers, and they didn't permanently settle there.
Grayson Bailey
Ethnic Arabs, the original Semites, occupied posts of dominance over Andalusia and were its rulers, with Berbers as their enforcers. You could directly see the ethnic ties to Arabia through their lineages.
Alexander Murphy
Even sadder is that the notable philosophers or scientists weren't even Arab, mostly persians.
Jose Rogers
It's the conflation of Moor/Mauro/Marino/Maure all being used throughout Europe to denote blackness with Moor used in the Americas denoting West African Muslims (generally the literate amongst Mande, Fula and Wolof enslaved people) or implying a regional (not racial) demarcation such as Robert Purvis's grandmother.
Nolan Butler
This is like saying Turks made Hagia Sophia.
Dominic Parker
This is Wuzzery Arab is a semiticizing language there is not Semitic people only semiticizing peoples. Secondly Arab proper from Arabia Felix are of Cushitic, Nilosaharan and Levantine semiticizing speaking populations.
There is no "pure" Arabic race.
Aiden Howard
Semitic my phone is autocorrecting
Luke Diaz
Then why did Arabs erect an Arab-supremacist system before the Abbasids, contrary to Islam's actual theology, where they ranked Muslim non-Arabs, like Berbers, almost to the level of non-Muslims?
There was a massive ethnic consciousness in Arabs of the early Caliphates.
Dylan Miller
The context is the Zanj not the al-Sudan or al-Habash two other black groups. The Zanj are the inland peoples of the Swahili coast unrealistic to either the Shirazi, Waq-waq or Swahili proper
Also thanks for editing it. You stupid ferenji were misquoting Al-Jahiz and other writers for far too long until I kept bringing up how silly you poster were
Jayden Collins
Unrelated
Leo Myers
Moorish Spain? The place and period where Jews and Christians had to wear clothing different from Muhammedians and were subject to random violence and massacre by the last mentioned?
Ayden Ross
zanj became generalized to mean all blacks, retard
Robert Gomez
muslims were racist towards blacks/
James Mitchell
No it's not زنگی or Zang is a specific region in Southeast Africa as every Persian and Arab person knew. That's why they differentiated between all the known regions of Africa.
"bilād as-sūdān" means land of the blacks and is talking about the Sahel from Mauritania to Sudan.
You should study before posting misrepresented memes.
Sebastian Peterson
>Berbers used to be a race of pallid ginger people
AYO HOL UP
Gavin Perez
so the question is did the arabs know that niggers are dumb?
Hudson Sullivan
Some believed Zanj to be "dumb" because they were radically different than other Africans and Eurasians.
Not West Africans or East Africans.
Zanj were "dumb" because they did not "know" Islam and were proud of their color and culture.
Anyways Al-Jahiz scholar from Iraq stated
>Everybody agrees that there is no people on earth in whom generosity is as universally well developed as the Zanj. These people have a natural talent for dancing to the rhythm of the tambourine, without needing to learn it. There are no better singers anywhere in the world, no people more polished and eloquent, and no people less given to insulting language. No other nation can surpass them in bodily strength and physical toughness. One of them will lift huge blocks and carry heavy loads that would be beyond the strength of most Bedouins or members of other races. They are courageous, energetic, and generous, which are the virtues of nobility, and also good-tempered and with little propensity to evil. They are always cheerful, smiling, and devoid of malice, which is a sign of noble character.
>The Zanj say that God did not make them black in order to disfigure them; rather it is their environment that made them so. The best evidence of this is that there are black tribes among the Arabs, such as the Banu Sulaim bin Mansur, and that all the peoples settled in the Harra, besides the Banu Sulaim are black. These tribes take slaves from among the Ashban to mind their flocks and for irrigation work, manual labor, and domestic service, and their wives from among the Byzantines; and yet it takes less than three generations for the Harra to give them all the complexion of the Banu Sulaim.
Ryan Rodriguez
Not true, especially not for Moors who had little to no Persians amongst them.
Arabs in Spain introduced irrigation techniques to utilize water in more efficient ways to them the amount of water in Spain was crazy they also introduced oranges and chickpeas, algebra, alchemy, modern numbers rather than roman numbers.. a lot of people look back at arab rule in shame but thats an extreme oversimplification In Spain the term "morisco" or "moro" applies to anyone that came from Morocco AFAIK
Ian Miller
Black nationalists are retards and dont deserve to be taken seriously.
Joshua Garcia
if you white people want to believe that everything came from white, then just do it, be an ignorant fool, let it fuel your racism, no one is stopping you,
Adrian Long
This is what I meant by misquoting and misrepresenting text
Jordan Anderson
Dude just look at most of muslim philosophers they are mixed/caucasoid.
Alexander Gomez
>In Spain the term "morisco" or "moro" applies to anyone that came from Morocco AFAIK It applies to any muslim
Brody Hughes
Arabs, Persians, Afghans, Pakistanis are Caucasoid. Not mixed.
Daniel King
moriscos were muslims converted to catholicism moors are basically called to anyone from northern africa, arabia etc as a generalization.