Why are we still trying accept pre-existing conditions with health insurance? Why should the average American have to pay the same as all the fat fucks with a myriad of health concerns? All the old fucks who have refused to die for the past 20 years and are draining all resources?
The prices keep on rising, but no one is addressing the obvious reasons why. We're unhealthy as fuck and modern medicine is keeping us alive.
What do you think?
What healthcare stocks should i into?
Which company is shkreli in?
Hey jidf shill you are still on biz :^)
Your brain may have completely melted from seeing nothing people pushing their shitcoins on you. However, this is a pretty relevant thread for this board even though it may not be popular. Unsure how not being a fat fuck like you makes me Jewish though.
IM ONLY OBESE BECAUSE OF MY GENETICS ITS NOT FAIR THAT YOU GET TO PAY LESS BECAUSE OF YOUR GENETIC PRIVILEGE
Genetics do matter. I had to watch skinny fuck eat twice what I eat and stay skinny
If this is a generic trait then it should be killed off from the population for the sake of humanity.
Really though, growing up as the "skinny" guy (a normal BMI) around fat people I got that a lot. In reality, I only ate that much for the occasion and 95% I eat a normal amount. There's no super-human metabolism. Basically, swallow less food and weight will go away.
Why is the south so fat compared to the rest of the US?
Just self insure. I've saved 50k over the past 10 years simply by refusing to buy health insurance.
Sweet tea and corn bread.
t. southerner
>Why are we still trying accept pre-existing conditions with health insurance?
Because I'm not a monster and I wouldn't want any of my family to die of cancer. Just because there's a ton of fat fucks out there doesn't mean you get to dick over people with genuine issues outside of their control
It's out of my control that I was born in the shithole that is Africa instead of as the child of Bill Gates. Does that mean I should get handouts?
You think this is just about being fat?
What if someone has cancer, loses their job, then needs to self-fund health insurance? They die. They have a pre-existing condition.
Is this fair?
I really hate how conservatives have decided that human empathy and basic respect for human life itself is a partisan issue. It's reprehensible
What if someone gets run over with a car? They die. Let's ban all cars.
I'm guessing OP's opinion on this matter will change drastically once he is an "old fuck who refuses to die"
wow an American with common sense, though those didn't exist in the wild
That's not even remotely an equal comparison. You're a fucking retard. I hate you, honestly, you pull the world down. You fucking idiots with retarded ideas.
If people get bad luck that's their own fucking problem. Others shouldn't have to bail them out.
Do you understand the concept of a society and how we're all working together to try to make the country as a whole a healthier and more productive place to live?
Why do you conservatives have this every-man-for-himself, no-matter-what mindset? I don't comprehend it. It seems to me that the primary defining characteristic of conservatives nowadays is a complete and utter lack of any basic human dignity and respect for others, as well as empathy. Prove me wrong, please, but that's what I and many others have been observing over and over
You're shit
I will gladly pay a bit more taxes so that people who get unlucky can have healthcare. Are you so fucking greedy that you can't pay your fair share back into the very system that you benefit from?
HSA's for the win.
Yes, reducing the consequences of being unhealthy will surely convince people to be healthier!
Wow - an user with some compassion AND brains. Underrated post.
>reducing the consequences of being unhealthy
He's arguing about supporting people who can't do anything to prevent their conditions and you know it
You think the fact that some people don't take care of their health means we should help nobody? You understand that the vast majority of people, no matter how active and healthy a lifestyle they live, suffer severe health issues at some point in their lifetime, right?
This is the same argument I hear from conservatives over and over again - some people will abuse the system, so it's not even worth providing it to anyone at all even if those who genuinely need it suffer
This is a short sighted and unethical viewpoint that seems to me to be based more on a desire for some sort of abstract revenge against fat people than it is based on any real economic or ideological opposition to healthcare.
And you can't support those people without also supporting the lazy fat fucks and alcoholics responsible for most of the cost of the system. Good thing I never have to deal with this bullshit because I self insure and pay the measly Obamacare penalty instead of thousands in premiums every year for insurance I will get pennies on the dollar back in returns.
We aren't trying to accept anything. We are forced to by parasitic voters who use the state as their proxy mob goon to extort us.
But that's all going to change right lads?
No more central banking for us!
And no more paying taxes!
Who's with me?
>the lazy fat fucks and alcoholics responsible for most of the cost of the system
Part of the issue is that fucking echo chambers like Veeky Forums allow retards like this to have their viewpoints reinforced by others. That's why you see those idiotic Nazis who deny the holocaust and the like. This place is fucking disgusting and I don't even know why I come here anymore.
But the saddest part is that even if you step away from the cesspit that is Veeky Forums, lots of Americans share these viewpoints. And ironically, lots of the people who share these viewpoints are the people who need healthcare the most. Rural poor people who tend to seemingly unknowingly vote against their own interests
Christians who vote for politicians who espouse views that are literally diametrically opposed to everything Jesus preached
What the fuck is going on in this world. I'm just a simple autist tending my memes and trying to make some crypto gains, but in my heart I feel like I want to devote every second of my life to becoming President of the US so I can fucking fix this shit. But I know I can't. Why are things the way they are.
Why are so many people basing their viewpoints on fallacies, misinformation, bigotry, and hate? It's disturbing, it's absurd - is this really the timeline I live in?
Fuck this gay Earth and fuck you selfish conservatives.
cancer versus being 500 lbs due to your own lack of any shred of common sense isn't even a reasonable comparison.
if i'm HEALTHY, keep myself in shape, don't smoke or do anything wild I shouldn't have to pay a ton. fat fucks should have to pay more so they realize it's not worth being a piece of shit.
Okay why is weight the only thing you can talk about?
What about healthy people who did the right things but got cancer? What about people with a family history of heart disease and even if they eat right they get it?
You're so fucking dumb it hurts my brain
What if you get run over by a car? What if you get shot by a supreme gentleman? What if the stocks you invested in suddenly crash? What if you are born in a poor family? YOU FUCKING DEAL WITH IT.
>Bad things can happen so we shouldn't help anyone who suffer very common bad things related to health and should just let them die so that health insurance company executives can get bigger bonuses
You're a fucking uncivilized retard, get the hell out of my civilization and go live in your libertarian/anarchy fantasy inna woods cuck
Don't tell me what to do. I'll do whatever I want, which is not subsidizing fat fucks.
You feewwww sooww bad for the poor poor cancerfags? Then pay for them yourself you thieving turbonigger.
I'd kill you myself Tyrone sooner than I let your shitskin hands touch even one of my quarters.
I found the faggot couple
Nah but seriously liberal fucks like you can eat shit and die
You are cancer, please go get raped and killed by the niggers you so love to protect
I think it's clear from these posts which side has ethics and human decency in mind. I'm sad for the world.
Really weak attempt at false flagging m8.
Your the one who wants to take peoples money by force to redistribute to your liking. Do it with your own money, not others.
You don't know what anyone else's interests are. Eat shit.
A bit more in taxes? I appreciate your empathy, but look at socialised medical systems and you will see it is not 'a bit more' in taxes. It is A LOT more. Not saying it shouldn't be done, but it is a lot of money.
Get these conservative "free market anti-regulation" politicians who actually regulate more to secure monopolies for their crony friends, out of healthcare and costs could come down 50%
You are just plain wrong
>Conservatives don't want healthcare reform
>Implying abortion is basic respect for human life
Two can play the assumption game.
You can have universal private healthcare through individual mandates, and this is optimal as compared to universal Medicaid
Your idea of a solution is equivalent to putting a band-aid gangrene foot.
>obesity is the only preexisting condition
>people should be killed before they grow old and sick
nice bait faggot
You do realise you don't actually care right, you just think it sounds good and right. You're just swept up in virtue signaling politics. The free market can handle health care better than any government.
>fat fucks with a myriad of health concerns?
Obesity doesn't really cost much
>All the old fucks who have refused to die for the past 20 years
The old fucks who are still alive have and are paying wayyy more taxes than you you fucking ignorant millennial snowflake
>The free market can handle health care better than any government
kek, private healthcare is easily the most bloated and dysfunctional industry that exists today
I know what's best for you poor losers. Let the government decide how you live your life.
Want to know why? Because they have cushy jobs and pensions that they built into the system for themselves that WE are paying for
Source: I make way more money than you and pay way more taxes you pathetic wagecuck
What's stoping these people from being prepared?
The only way to be a fat shit is to have : input>output.
Body mass don't create by itself.
If you diminish the input you loose weight.
Everytime i see a fat shit (public transports etc), the fat shit is drinking or eating.
>The free market can handle health care better than any government.
Is that why we pay exorbitant prices on medical supplies in the US while the countries that make actual agreements with and competition between distributors for specific supplies pay a fuckton less?
I'm not exactly well versed in the medical industry but I do know the U.S. always has the most state of the art medical equipment. There's a reason rich from all over the world come to America for medical treatment (including socialist Europe).
>thinks a government regulated industry is comparable to an unregulated industry
>is this much of a faggot
Do you honestly think you're paying free market prices in the us? The problem doesn't lie within the industry itself but the bloated goverment that enables it.
is cancer the only thing you can talk about reddit fag?
>seemingly unknowingly vote against their own interests
>This bullshit again
>red states are the fattest
Not surprised.
Who the fuck is getting denied medical treatment? Even the illegal beaners who cross our border get healthcare. How the fuck are you so fat, lazy, and inept that you can't get healthcare if you are an American citizen.
No, I do care, and it is good and right.
It's not virtue signalling. I literally voted in my county's special election today, and guess what - I voted in favor of a new tax to help fund the arts and education, and voted all Democrat knowing they are more likely to raise taxes than the other candidates
Stop assuming that because you're a heartless sociopath, everyone else must be.
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reuters.com
>Obese men rack up an additional $1,152 a year in medical spending, especially for hospitalizations and prescription drugs, Cawley and Chad Meyerhoefer of Lehigh University reported in January in the Journal of Health Economics. Obese women account for an extra $3,613 a year. Using data from 9,852 men (average BMI: 28) and 13,837 women (average BMI: 27) ages 20 to 64, among whom 28 percent were obese, the researchers found even higher costs among the uninsured: annual medical spending for an obese person was $3,271 compared with $512 for the non-obese.
