Was Moses real?

Was Moses real?

Of course not, there's no evidence of the Israelites ever being in Egypt in any major capacity.

How does that prove Moses didn't exist?

yes and he had horns

The Jews just didn't want us to know they were really Canaanites. Yahweh was a Canaanite God, Ba'al (Hebrew name for God) was a Canaanite God, as was Adonai, El (Elohim means making El their primary God).

Judaism was an extension of Canaanite Paganism, it was more of a civil war then two separate entities.

Except Genesis and Exodus, but those are Christian so they must be lying

>Ba'al (Hebrew name for God)
Good lord go back to /r/atheism you historically illiterate twat

Genesis is blatant bullshit so yes. And exodus has little to no outside support for it's claims.

We know for a fact that Israel didn't exist yet in the bronze age, it started existing when the habiru, aka rejects from Near Eatsern cities who couldn't pay their debts, conquered and occupied Jerusalem and other fallen Levantine cities after the bzonze age collapse, and became the hebrews.

The Myth of the exodus could originate from the Hyksos, aka people from the Levant, being expelled from Egypt after conquering it and/or Egypt conquering the Levant itself (Modern day Palestine, Lebanon and all the way up to Anatolia)

>Genesis is blatant bullshit
euphoric
>exodus has little to no outside support for it's claims
So does Plato

>>euphoric
Is that what we're calling simple acknowledgement of reality now?

>>So does Plato
A guy named socrates existing is hardly as unbelievable a claim as some of the stuff that is supposed to have happened in exodus.

Some people who one day became Hebrews or mixed with people who would become Hebrews could have easily become Egypt considering the two places were right next door. remember naysayers use to think Troy was fictional until we found it's ruins. I think Josephus relates exodus to the hyksos so that's something.

>Is that what we're calling simple acknowledgement of reality now?
Do tell, what part of Genesis is "blatant bullshit"?
>A guy named socrates existing is hardly as unbelievable a claim as some of the stuff that is supposed to have happened in exodus
How unbelievable you find history is irrelevant

You will nothing here.

>>Do tell, what part of Genesis is "blatant bullshit"?
The world took a lot longer then 7 days to form for one thing.

>>How unbelievable you find history is irrelevant
This comment in turn is irrelevant because the account in exodus is highly unlikely to be historical.

PS. Magic doesn't exist and angry bearded men cannot make their imaginary friends rain frogs from the sky.

Maybe, but the exodus account includes a lot more then that and most of it is ridiculous horseshit.

>The world took a lot longer then 7 days to form for one thing
Nope. Augustine was right, everything was created in a single day ex nihilo
>This comment in turn is irrelevant because the account in exodus is highly unlikely to be historical
Because it's Christian, right? Of course, if atheists applied the same historical methodology consistently, you'd have to dismiss the existence of Socrates.
>Magic doesn't exist and angry bearded men cannot make their imaginary friends rain frogs from the sky
euphoric

>>Nope. Augustine was right, everything was created in a single day ex nihilo
That's also wrong.

>>Because it's Christian, right?
No. Because it makes blatant and brazen reference to things that simply do not and cannot happen.

>>Of course, if atheists applied the same historical methodology consistently, you'd have to dismiss the existence of Socrates.
Nope, as the existence of a man who said some things is not the same thing as the blatantly supernatural events outlined in the exodus account.

>>euphoric
Try "correct" instead. It accurately describes my position on this matter.

>Yahweh was a Canaanite God,

Unless you claim to be divinely omniscient then we don't really know you either assume or you don't.

Does it matter whether or not if Moses once physically existed? The real question is: was ever alive in your heart?

One like=one prayer.

>That's also wrong.
No u
>Because it makes blatant and brazen reference to things that simply do not and cannot happen.
And they can't happen because the supernatural doesn't exist, and we know the supernatural doesn't exist because the supernatural doesn't exist, so if anything supernatural happens, we know it isn't really supernatural, because the supernatural doesn't exist
>blatantly supernatural events
Funny you think supernatural is a synonym of fictional
>Try "correct" instead. It accurately describes my position on this matter
euphoric *tips fedora*
Not assuming is assuming not.

Dude, the earth is something like 4.5 billion years old, not 6000 years. We know this because of the half-lives of certain radioactive elements in the earth's crust.

>>muh circular reasoning
I wouldn't try this when attempting to argue for the truth of supernatural events in the bible. Because there is very little to no outside sources for any of the supernatural claims contained therein.

>>muh euphoria with an image this time!
Pretty sure this meme is officially played out by now.

There's nowhere called palestine, what country do you mean?

kys kike

what a brilliant thread we have here.

A guy false flagging as christian/jewish and another guy taking the bate, forming one of those wonderful greentext walls everyone loves so much.

Moses obviously wasn't real, there were probably jews in egypt, probably not in the capacity or situation that the bible/torah describes, thanks everyone I'm out have a nice night.

Plato has Aristophanes and Xenophon as corroborating authors when it comes to Socrates' existence.

Inb4 Amarna Letters

You're the one with the circular reasoning. You claim that supernatural events don't exist because God doesn't exist, but then claim God doesn't exist because he's supernatural, etc. Just admit that you have literally no explanation for the beginning of life or the universe and come to terms with the fact that you're just an atheist because you don't like God.

Nah.

You have no argument for the existence of the christian god other then reference to the bible, and no argument for the bible being reliable as proof for the existence of the christian god other then appeal to divine authority.

Just admit you're an intellectual lightweight utterly incapable of facing life without a celestial sky-fairy watching over him.

>(((they))) don't want you to know the truth

>David never existed guys
>just some mythical hero from a stone age fable guys
>they just made him up on the go guys
>no evidence whatsoever guys
>euphoric
>don't trust anything the Jews say
>*material evidence of David is found*
>oh wait