Kingdom of France

ROY (although I was going for the son Vive Henry IV )

*song

Thanks, hopefully the thread will be alive

Golden Age of the French, since the (((French))) Revolution we're in constant decline

They were undoubtedly the premier cavalry nation throughout much of the medieval period well into the early modern one.

Despite the fact that they had some losses (which everyone likes to point out) their cavalry was generally quite efficient and packed a punch.

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Pound for pound they weren't the best cavalry in europe, but they sure as hell knew how to fight. Pious and bloodthirsty, but not above dirty tricks to win. Not that I'm complaining. It would be quite boring to read of how the 1st crusade ended outside Jerusalem because the leaders didn't feel like bribing the gate guards. They made cavalry charges sexy again. They had just enough of everything that made one victorious in the middle ages. Damn shame that the entire time they never come close to replicating the success they had at the time of Charlemagne. All their romance, all their valor comes from a decay which nevertheless lashes out with a vengeance.

Not the best in Europe? Who do you think had a better cavalry arm?

those trimmings are neat. brass maybe?

Not the guy you were replying to
I think either Poland or Hungary, not because of muh winged hussars but because they had better manuvrability. But for impact on the charge and just pure sexiness the French have always been the best

This is what I was thinking, the difference being they have great cavalry in an area where everyone else also kind of does, so it lowers the effect.

*blocks your path*

*steals your spurs*

Yeah, though they retained the Nassau-Weilburg name of their female ancestor. I hate how Europe is cucking itself by adopting absolute cognatic primogeniture. I think even cognatic primogeniture is going too far.

Thank you very much, i have hours of reading material right here, you're really into the crusaders aren't you?

>Golden Age of the French, since the (((French))) Revolution we're in constant decline

>we're

I assume you're French, its a damn shame the Revolution happened, most people i know throughout the world are brainwashed into thinking the Revolution was a glorious enlightenment that made humanity free and gave us reason, i assume an overwhelming majority of people in France see it as a good thing? Its good to see someone who doesn't.

>Despite the fact that they had some losses (which everyone likes to point out) their cavalry was generally quite efficient and packed a punch.

Its weird, everyone loves to focus on the losses of the French, Agincourt, Crecy, Poitiers, but they completely ignore French victories, i realize that those English victories were truly amazing, but from the way some people speak about the hundred years war you'd think the English won.

Not sure

It's a shame Capetians failed to obtain the imperial crown

Phillip the fair coming in le iron roi. Why were my sons so shit.

Why was the French Revolution a bad thing?

>had better manuvrability.

At the cost of impact.

It's a trade off.

You kill the people aligned by God to rule your country.

So? Does that mean that because it killed people it was a bad thing?

France was just an overpopulated country that sucked at war.They were the Zerg of their time

Reflections

Mob rule, it destroyed the elite of French society, say what you want they knew how to rule, and like i said, modern leftism, liberalism and all related cancer was spawned by the French revolution.

I agree that a lot of intellectuals and even people who did nothing wrong died but that is the effect of a revolution needed at that time
They knew how to keep power, their ability to rule is arguable
All that "cancer" is way better than having to flip a coin and hope that your monarch is not a fucking retard and even then he can just die and put the whole thing country into chaos

Even if the king was a retard he would have loyal advisors as the monarchy was respected.Charles ,more fingers in one hand than great grand parents, II had a decent run.On the other hand the total abstraction of the republic is full of corruption and leeches as no ones respects it

IP ban on burgers when, or underage as how can you get to 18 in a civilised country and not know about France
But yeah modern day France very much so owes itself to conquering TRVE ROMAN territories, supporting the illegitimate branch of Brittany and killing off nobles they saw as uppity.
French Revolution went too far, and conditions for peasants were just lower than usual rather than always bad
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>pious and bloodthirsty
That's the Norman's user not the French

If any kingdom claims to be the successor to Charlemagne then it is the HRE, kingdom of Romans and Germans for autistic anons

>IP ban on burgers when, or underage as how can you get to 18 in a civilised country and not know about France

I know about France, im not American, its just that i never really got interested in the Medieval Kingdom of France.

Are you some Balkan state that focuses 13 years on what they WUZ or something

>Implying the advisors won't just abuse power
The monarchy was so respected that an entire country chimped out and when the entire rest of europe tried to stop them they got their ass kicked by mass enlisting

>The monarchy was so respected that an entire country chimped out and when the entire rest of europe tried to stop them they got their ass kicked by mass enlisting
The revolution was a Parisian thing.Most of the country stayed loyal to Louis XVI until Prussia and Austria launched their invasion.Massing enlisting was mostly forced like in any war

I don't believe you

I'm more of a fan of the duchies and counties of France than the actual royal domains itself. Normandy, Brittany, Flanders, and especially Anjou contributed vastly to European history.

>Damn shame that the entire time they never come close to replicating the success they had at the time of Charlemagne

For that we could only thank perfidious Albion

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Who where the Burgundians though?

>All that "cancer" is way better than having to flip a coin and hope that your monarch is not a fucking retard and even then he can just die and put the whole thing country into chaos
yes the eternal rhetoric form the liberals is that ''liberalism is the least bad system, better than a random dictator''. The best part is that those liberals rely on terrorism which they despise when other terrorists attack them.

So what do you advise to do?

Burgundians were a Germanic tribe/confederation of tribes
The kingdoms of burgundy was made up so a son of king could have independent territories
The free county of burgundy and burgundy are two separate things
>us vs them meme
Wow so original can I SHARE with Reddit Patreon?

>Charles ,more fingers in one hand than great grand parents, II

noice

>The revolution was a Parisian thing.Most of the country stayed loyal to Louis XVI

I dunno if it was mostly a Parisian thing but there certainly were revolts/civil wars after the Revolution by people who weren't down with it. Look up the Vendee.

He did nothing wrong

But it was because of Robespierre's tyranny, a degeneracy, wasn't it?

eh it all started when i just realized how tooth and nail these fights were, thy europeans were severally outnumbered and were surrounded far away from home, it's crazy when you hear about how 2000 men could go into battle and leave with like six left alive, just imagining the sheer intensity of being those six it's just interesting to think about shit like that, also it is pretty much the best of each side of the globe just fighting eachother over what they consider the most important thing ever so it was super tryhard and lots of fuckied up shit happened, i know these strats cant be applied to other things, but when you read about the crusade attempts as a whole it's su[rising to figure out that some of the most effective tactics are making fake retreats or pretty much feinting other commands, the europeans barely used these tactics but when they did it worked, bo, the arabs were great with these tactics though, and i also recommend reading about the arab assassins, i know they have their own name, but they were actually really based, they were surprisingly neutral to each side during crusades and this may sound neckneardy but think of the morag tong from morrowind, they are like them in that they would kill whoever for whomever was buying, and was even an english might have been french, king who actually repelled an assaasination attempt on himself and killed the assassin, in another account, a french noble i believe it was robert de sable but im probably wrong, actually had a meeting with the assassins and they liked him so they offered a killing for anyone he wants, and he flat out said nobody and rejected the offer, in a polite way though. i know im going off topic but i could probably go on forever, another cool topic of the french is reading about napoleon Bonaparte and what he did to the order of malta, i can give the greentext if u want but this post is getting pretty long.

>i know im going off topic but i could probably go on forever, another cool topic of the french is reading about napoleon Bonaparte and what he did to the order of malta, i can give the greentext if u want but this post is getting pretty long.

Not a problem, i really appreciate your posts, lots of info, please do, please post the green text.

How was French feudalism different than English feudalism? For time frame, just just say 1100.
I was just thinking about it earlier today: we get a lot of medieval fantasy that's English, and Warhammer fantasy does Pike and Shottte Germany. Was there anything particularly different about Medieval France (less yeomen and less movement between the classes?) and the other Western Kingdoms of the time?

Define 'feudalism'

Seriously the term is too general if not further specification is provided. I could ramble on about Peers or the Realm but that wouldn't make much sense if you wonder about the difference between a viscount and an earl.

I guess that can be a basis of my problem with my speculation. Should I just try to find some books on the subject? If not, is be willing to read whatever you want to mention about the society of the times--what do you mean by Peers?

i used to think napeleon was a pretty neat guy like everyone else, and i actuallt ran into this info on accident.
>200 years after republic of malta formed
>be 1798
>be napeleon,
>want to attack egypt
>send all troops down that way, remembering malta's now french residents that are in control of the island napoleon contacts the current leader of malta grandmaster Ferdinand von Hompesch zu Bolheim
>"hey ferd i got all these ships(cant find link of number but like his full invasion force) here and they are all gonna park their boats on malta rest and restock ok thanks
>ferd obviously was insulted, but was trying to make the point that the order of malta wasnt part of france politically and tried expressing neutrality, much like austrailia isn't just in direct linked allegience with uk just due to similar heritage. by saying no only like 2-5 ships at a time or some shit, he was ok with landing just small amounts at a time.
>napeleon reacted immeditely and just instantly sent a force down there attacked it and took malta for france, now all of the land malta owned, even some the found are all seized to now france, i know i shoukldnt go into politics but here is what makes me mad, the order of malta still exists, but it is now moved from malta and the latest grandmaster was exiled over a condom dispute, its now pretty much annexed by the pope, and none of this could have happened if not for what napoleon did, im going to be salty at this point but it just seems like france would have had a second chance at being great again if everything ferdinand did worked out but oh well thats history, if you have any other questions about any other part of the crusades i dont mind sharing at all, if you have any slightly-off topic questions i could try to answer those too

Well France had super duper saigan nobles. Twelve of them incidentally.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peerage_of_France

ahh here we go, i found sauce

>On 19 May 1798, a French fleet sailed from Toulon, escorting an expeditionary force of over 30,000 men under General Napoleon Bonaparte. The force was destined for Egypt, Bonaparte seeking to expand French influence in Asia and force Britain to make peace in the French Revolutionary Wars, which had begun in 1792.[1] Sailing southeast, the convoy collected additional transports from Italian ports and at 05:30 on 9 June arrived off Valletta, the heavily fortified port-city on the island of Malta.[2] At this time, Malta and its neighbouring islands were ruled by the Knights of St. John, an old and influential feudal order weakened by the loss of most of their revenue during the French Revolution. The order was composed of men from across Europe, including a significant proportion of Frenchmen, who ruled over the majority Maltese population of the islands.[3] The head of government was Grand Master Ferdinand von Hompesch zu Bolheim, who refused Bonaparte's demand that his entire convoy be allowed to enter Valletta and take on supplies, insisting that Malta's neutrality meant that only two ships could enter at a time.

makes me cri everytim

>i used to think napeleon was a pretty neat guy like everyone else, and i actuallt ran into this info on accident.

Same here, Napoleon was shit.

> i know i shoukldnt go into politics but here is what makes me mad, the order of malta still exists, but it is now moved from malta and the latest grandmaster was exiled over a condom dispute, its now pretty much annexed by the pope

What to they do anyhow? Do they just larp?

Stupid fucking republishits ruined everything.

no they do everything christians now do, give to poor people, enable shittiness, because defending christians in the east is too racist now or whatever, getting old sux.
pretty much the grand master saw another higher up in the order giving out condoms and said that they, as a catholic group should uphold catholic beleifs, he fired the condomer and the pope demanded the grandmaster resign immediately upon hearing about it, they currently have no leader and the meme pope gets to choose whoever he wants as the next leader, no objections, and on top of all this they just own an acre of land in rome now, and do what i said, give money and food to poor pretty stellar huh

>tfw we could've had a restored French Constitutional Monarchy but the autistic claimant refused over a fucking flag
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri,_Count_of_Chambord
I feel salty just reading it again

isnt knowledge fun