Communist crypto investors

How can I force myself to love state-controlled economy and society, and finally become a Communist?

kys, commies

Nope, you can't. You can't force yourself to love centrally planned economy (state-controlled in your word) if you don't become selfless.

Pathetic

If you're selfless, what stops you from living in self-abnegation?

Also, doesn't it feel to be a cuckold trading crypto while hoping that the blockchain and the decentralized internet will be forbidden under a planned economy?

>communism
>taxes
lmao
crypto and fiat have no difference for me, other than volatility

Aren't communist taxes like 100%? I mean, in the USSR, if you created your own farm and lived off of its produce, you went straight to jail.

there are no communists with money of their own

I find my personal interest meaningless and empty, that I constanstly strive to do something for the higher good. It's not forced self-abnegation, but happen naturally in my thought.
I understand other people are different from me, though.

And for trading crypto, my motto is using any useful tools and means, even from the enemies. The capitalist cucks in 20th century even borrowed some ideas from us communists in order to fight us, right?

>something for the higher good
the only question is who gets genocided next by your negatively-selected minions? until the inevitable collapse, of course

you get paid for your work just like in america. also the state get to keep a large percent of what you produce, just like corporations in america. the salary differences were smaller in the ussr though.
also, in 2017, only third world shitters live off of their produce. modern agriculture needs heavy government subsidies and support. so soviet farmers were much like modern small and medium
american farmers

>crypto and fiat have no difference for me, other than volatility
Besides, you can say that fiat is enforced to you by the bourgeois hegemony, but crypto is something that you voluntarily delve into. Don't you feel like you go against your own principles by actively participating and supporting (by your actions) a totally ancap phenomenon?

Nope, you are free to cultivate your own farm for personal use. But selling its products in "free market" is forbidden.
No one was forbidden to live in his own way if it didn't affect the society, but he effectly denied himself from many
"benefits".

Some people like gambling by their nature, or like accumulating various material and status points in their life, and then using them. You can't go against the human nature.

You, so're trying to save up some money by gambling? I think you might consider launching a Communist ICO, it would be funny

>in the USSR, if you created your own farm and lived off of its produce
1. land ownership was extremely limites so one had to be dependent on the totalitarian state
2. the land was either nationalized from those who knew how to farm and given to ignoramuses who couldn't even grow weed

I call it the natural selection. Who will win in the end? Survival of the fittest, of course. If you guys is really the future, we will accept to go the way of dinosaur. But don't expect we will go down without a fight.

History will decide everything.

In the USSR, there was literally a law against adults who had no work. Let alone a total deficit of all goods, when you could only get access to good books, food and items if you had connections. Corruption was omnipresent.

>Nope, you are free to cultivate your own farm for personal use. But selling its products in "free market" is forbidden.
Exactly. Selling is forbidden, and to maintain that forbiddance you need the strong hand of a powerful, watchful state that closely monitors your actions and thoughts.

>Survival of the fittest
but that is uncommunist, after all forced equality of subhumans and underachievers is the very basis of communism
survival of the fittest is ancap to the bone where negative traits weed themselves out unlike communism where positive traits weed themselves out

It's human nature (or nature of everything) to ever growing, accumulating or dead. But our direction of growing are different. I'm not denying my human nature, but my nature is different from your nature. It's a simple fact.

>but my nature is different from your nature. It's a simple fact.
Exactly, your nature is to deprive others of freedom while justifying it by your supposedly high ethnic standards

>the Soviet Union adapted the formula as: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his work

What is wrong with that?
BTFOs gibs and nigger welfare parasites
BTFOs jews and kike banking schemes
BTFOs nepotism and useless leeches

[spoiler]in theory[/spoiler]

So, why was this premise wrong?

>So, why was this premise wrong?
It makes you worse than niggers and jews

central planning never works because it eliminates supply/demand and price discovery thus leading to starvation, misallocation and decisionmaking on wrong apparatchik-supplied data

>BTFOs gibs and nigger welfare parasites
no, dependency on the state is desired in totalitarian societies
>BTFOs jews and kike banking schemes
devaluation is a regular occurrence in commie central banks which all follow the kike model, only put "people's" premodifier in front of their names
>BTFOs nepotism and useless leeches
hahahha

Nope, you are mistaken us with the other socialists. We Communists don't promote forced equality of subhumans or underachievers or some morality hypocripsy.

Socialism is the future because of that the wagecucks are not "subhumans" as you guys mistakenly think, but actually the "ubermensch" of the future. Just my 2 cents, believe it or not.

I don's see how, please elaborate what other than material motivation would such a society provide to exceptional anons? anons who are aware of competing ideological/economic systems in other countries?

Actually yes. I am a communist and make money off crypto. I actually think blockchain technology has has potential to build decentralized distribution of goods, necessary to communism. Once I make some money, I can funnel it towards propagandizing.

Regardless, I have no problem riding on the capitalist's coat tails and making profit off their speculative games rather than wasting my time with some bullshit wage job.

So who care? Might make right. Why mankind allow themselves to eat other species?

>I learned a lot from crypto and why speculation is a cancer. At least i took some of those free market retards some of their money.
Also, if this is true and you're in profit with crypto while being a commie, which I don't really believe somehow, but am ready to take as granted, then you most likely took the money of some pajeets and third worlders, which, last time I heard, Communists strive to defend

Just like capitalism cannot co-exist with other economic systems, since it subsumes everything and expands until it is completely dominant, so must communism. Communism must be international, everywhere, or it is nowhere and succumbs to capitalist market forces (which are far stronger).

that's cute
as long as there are armed people there will be dead communists

I'm still laughing my ass off on the funny fact that in USSR, there the tittle "Hero of Labour" for expectionally outstanding wagecucks. It's not worth much materially, but enough to make proud as fuck.

That's not really who you're taking money from, even if there was a "taking."

This is how obtuse capitalists are: hopefully someday they'll sell us the rope to hang them with.

>I'm a communist
So you're a Jew or a faggot from New York or SF? Trust fund? Lmao

Just become a vegan if you hate eating meat so much.

Any fags who claim to be communists or socialists need to help a fellow man that is trapped in a socialist state Venezuela, and I assure you it a shit economy and I am, by your standards almost starving. So please even if you are a greedy miser, plz give me something to eat i literally only have 2$ worth of crypto

>i'm a communist
>but I openly use a capitalist system such as free trade
>and I actually own my own cryptos instead of the state

Commies are literally retarded which puts into question if these numb nuts are investing in crpyto is it time to short.

Kek, my point is that I'm fine with destroying capitalism, just like human is fine with eating meat. There's no moral hypocrisy here.

Do you realize that to build communism, you'll have to prohibit cryptocurrencies? You might leave out the blockchain technology as a whole, for distribution of goods, as you said, but all other stuff will have to be prohibited

Also, I'm really surprised that commies DO trade crypto. There are several people in this thread already. I'd never guess. I don't think you really gain that much, though, if at all. But anyway, it turns out it's possible to make money off of commies. Holy shit.

Just become a wagecuck like me, do you think I'm better than you, user?

Because I don't believe in blockchain bullshit. Even jew banks are more efficient than this shit.

The fact that Communists are deeply violent and barbaric in their mentality, while at the same time claiming to possess some "superior" moral values is nothing surprising. One just has to look at history.

Are you fucking serious? Minimum wage here is about 100$ month

The same could be said for nationalists.

Make money off of me? The other way around, clown. I am actually making money off of this whole thing. I've already made tens of thousands of dollars.

Yes. Of course, the value exchange mechanism of crypto is not going to exist under communism. But now it does, and I'll use the speculative, contractions of capitalism to my benefit.

Then give me some you irreverent talk the talk but no walk the walk boasting faggot

How does it feel that the earliest adopters and hence largest holders of Bitcoin are libertarians? You might be able to take a few dollars of the Stacy's and Pajeets that think they can trade these days but every fiat dollar that goes into crypto is making libertarians stronger.

No, you're thinking small-scale, not like a businessman.

There's a way to profit off of the WHOLE online left-wing community. You can promote crypto investing to them, saying that this is the way to finally overthrow capitalism, spruce it up with the sayings of Marx and Lenin, images of the hammer and sickle, WHILE making money with affiliate links (receiving commissions per each commie trade) AND recommending that they buy various shitcoins which you would of course have accumulated. Can be automated with advanced marketing techniques like list building.

It would be rather ironic.

Delicious. I'm outta the thread, thanks for the insight.

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I'm an anarcho primitivist.

If you look at the facts regarding our future ability to achieve viable space colonization within a reasonable timeframe you will see that it doesn't look good for us. So with that in mind one can see there is little point to our civilization.

That being said I'm a survivalist so I must survive in capitalism while also preparing for its inevitable end.

>Selfless
*Brainless

Commies fuck OFF
Reeeeeeeeee

That's kinda similar to regular market crashes in capitalism, user. All 20th century reactions to industrialisation were failures. If the left wants a change, they'll have to reinvent communism completely, since what Marx wanted was essentially capitalism without capitalism. Great productivity but without exploitation and shit like that. Unfortunately, that doesn't work. 20th century communism only created a new ruling class and a new way of exploiting people. (This becomes clear once you take a closer look at China) It's really sad that there are no new solutions coming from the left. It's all either post-political bullshit or 20th century nostalgia.

Generally involves being gelded.

>>BTFOs gibs and nigger welfare parasites
>no, dependency on the state is desired in totalitarian societies
Except that its clearly against "to each according to its work". Same with your other complains.

You cant refute "From each according to his ability, to each according to his work". At most you can say its impossible to implement, in which I agree.

crypto is literally ancap technology. kys you faggots. use your lack of economic understanding somewhere else. I heard you're all well suited for mass murder, bagging and heroin addiction.

Welfare recipients don't invest.

> is communist, makes profit in a open market by himself
>disproves his own retarded views of economic impotence
> doesn't realise it

also speculation serves the purpose of price finding and volume creation. therefore it is a social act benefiting other people. kys faggot. lrn2economics

Communism will win and Ethereum will be used for good, not for giant capitalist hedge-funds and dystopian AI-run corporations.

>You cant refute

are you retarded? it's not even a quantifiable statement. in what context do you want it refuted? moral? here: it can not result in anything else but slavery. without the ability to decide the purpose of your actions for yourself you have de facto given up ownership of yourself to someone else. additionally for any of your economic needs you have become completely dependent on the good will of some one else, be it the state or a private owner, you are de facto a slave, as you lack any ability to be independent. how can you even defend such a notion you degenerate freak?

maybe you want it refuted economically: without the ability to decide the best course of action for yourself economic outcome of your actions (and anyone elses) is bound to be suboptimal, resulting in increase of poverty.
ever wondered why any attempt of introducing socialism has always led to a famine 10 years after? here's why: no one has a clue what to - and no one has a reason to do it right in your magic system.

maybe you'd like it in the form of valuation of human life: with the only instance of ascribing value to your existence being the benefit of others, your own life loses any value. you can at no point argue against human sacrifice any more, as that sacrifice, be it in a gulag to the gods of class warfare or on top of a pyramid to quetzlcoatl, might become benefiting the collective without any other way of valuating your life anymoe, since your only purpose is to serve others. and when something has no value, you can break it as you please without being a crime.

did you never think about this? honestly, how stupid are you that you do not question your own believes? especially when they have resulted over and over again in the death of millions throughout history.

no joke, people should be afraid to admit they are commies. I personally am going to kill you when the civil war comes around

a) based
b) nazis are the same collectivist lefty pest. just because it's not marxian socialism, doesn't mean it doesn't suffer from the same short comings. they too murdered millions, just not as effective as the other commies.

false, they didnt murder million, theres no proof of such a thing

they did however save many russians from being killed, so you could say they saved millions

how the fuck do communists not realize that crypto is literally the most ancap thing to ever exist on the face of the planet. Do they realize that crypto will put an end to this commie Keynesian nonsense. I hope when all of us sane freemarket people have all the fucking money we have the sense to protect ourselves accordingly from these entitled delusional scumbags. Will we also have the strength to provide no food/water/shelter for them so that they die at the gates once and for all, i hope so.

Has ethereum really been overrun by communist faggots.

Vietnamese here > live under commie gov > sounds good didn't works > create extremly rich red guys (especially the poliburo) > the rest is poor > only good things is electricity is cheap > many miners. Another good thing is no muslim > when Ramadan happens they are watched or even captured and trapped in police station > very peaceful

are you somehow stupid. even without acknowledging the holocaust as perpetrated in the death camps you still have a raging war, documented pogroms, executions of whole villages by shooting, and whatnot. the german soul is anal and bureaucratic. you do not even have to rely on countless witness reports, or even allied documents. the germans themselves kept book. stop the nazibooing, it's pathetic. what is it you people like so much about degenerate socialists with coprophile obessions?

Not even sure if it's worth arguing with people like him. Some people just have their own version of reality that they want to believe and no one can tell them otherwise.

yeah, you're probably right. on the other hand if there's no one calling out their bs, it makes believing their fantasies much easier for others.

>we communists

Hello tumblr, how many cosmetic items and clothes did you steal today in the name of communism

SPOOKS ITT

lmao baby ancaps still think they stand a chance when their population isn't growing while us radical commies are, and more-so when we're active and they're not.
Sorry but when WE overthrow the government you'll be the minority and us commies will band together and suffocate you if not downright destroy you for violating the NAP.
You stand no chance as an individual against a huge collective capitalist. We'll blockade you. We'll be armed ready to assault. We'll suffocate your economy in every way imaginable.

sorry but the goyim know here. you arent fooling anyone with your propaganda

Radical commies are only growing in weight because 90% of them are fat and lazy. If they were intelligent and hard working they would be too busy profiting off capitalism to risk their life trying to overthrow the government.

>anarcho

How many cars have you set on fire so far? Anarchy is litteraly apocalyptic and nothing worth aiming for

>We Communists don't promote forced equality of subhumans or underachievers or some morality hypocripsy.

do you somehow don't understand your own ideology? 'you communists' are obsessed with the working class. in fact you want it to take the power. remember? dictatorship of the proletariat?
but guess what? the working class is at the bottom of society for a reason: they aren't that smart. in fact, all they have to offer is their physical labour. in what universe does that sound like the ubermensch to you? have you ever looked at these people? are you somehow blind to reality? the left constantly makes fun of them. calls them rednecks, nazis and what not. ubermensch my ass.

and them you want to give power, meaning you want them to be equal to the upper classes who are in power right now. by means of revolution. that's your fucking doctrine. how is this not forced equalisation of subhumans and underachievers? you fucking degenerate idiot?

kill yourself, because if you won't, the working class will.

yikes!

They all went to a butterfly farm like my Dog did as a kid, ofc, Nazis are worse then commies, and holocaust deniers are the worst of em all

>If they were intelligent and hard working they would be too busy profiting off capitalism
HAHAHAHAHA this babby thinks capitalism is a meritocracy!

go live in africa then.
you will soon realize that governments come naturally among all animals, and that anarchy is impossible, because warlords will step in

Some people are born wealthy but for the most part, capitalism is a meritocracy. Or at least the closest we will reasonably get. You probably think you're a genius but since you're not successful, capitalism couldn't possibly be a meritocracy.

>lol fat and ugly lazy commies XXXXDDD you can't work lazy frekos!
Meanwhile apparently we're emaciated weak-armed skinny faggots though as well?
Then we're violent dangerous coorderinated terrorists the next day?

Sorry but you're delusional.
You will be suffocated and either killed or will comply.

Most of us make plenty of money or are at least happy with our living situation and lives in general, just hate the system.
I made $40,000 in the last month off crypto shorting and I don't even have a big account (sub $250,000). I'm nineteen and I still collect welfare and disability, just for shits.
I also bummed it to #BurnLimo 2017 and masked the fuck up.
Sorry we aren't soulless selfish cucks like you who won't take a risk or make a stand. This is why we will win, and we will suffocate scum like yourself. You're trash.

>Small people are ususally richer so we should stomp on poor people
Wow you're stupid. You really understand nothing in regards to education, upbringing, culture, etc, do you?
You're fucking clueless.

Yeah that's why historically the most wealthy, civilized, and "smart" cultures were always based off direct-democracies and communalism rather than individualism.
Okay.

I am a commie, but blockchain might just the crucial step towards GAI before or after helping to establish neocameralist micronations. It's a far-right technology.

here you have it in two languages. now think for a moment:
a) you have a population that you deem subhuman, but somehow still a little more worthwhile than jews.
b) you murder anyone from that population aiding jews (by hiding them)
c) you totally did not murder the jews.

Lul have fun killed at a protest just so you can feel good about potentially letting a tumblrina live for free while contributing her "fair share" aka tweeting about how evil men are.

> in regards to education, upbringing, culture, etc

yes, because people who do well in school end up working class. in the whole history it has never been shown that individuals who excel end up higher in the hierarchy than those who do not. because obviously your own shortcomings as projected onto all the groups you deeply feel are inferior aren't your own fault. no, it has to be a conspiracy. there's no such thing as being worse, right?

you are a fucking moron if you believe those who can will not overcome obstacles you impotent freak.

image has been misquoted countless times
Im not going balls deep debunking the holocaust, that will take hours and you arent going to listen to me

its been disproven by many revisionist, suggest you start there.

>he doesn't know that the best way to build socialism is to be as capitalist as possible right now so everything can be automated sooner