living in EU

it's so cool country! i have seen movies!

american dream

>moving to USA
>not wanting to be a wagecuck

You dun goofed, new friend. The USA is wage cuck central.

don't come we have too many worthless immigrants already

name one country that is better than the USA
(im german an plan to emigrate to the us)

under the table jobs are 7-11

are you an illegal immigrant? with so little money and no job already on the line, there's no chance in hell you are getting in legally

pfff... good luck buddy. you'll get in easily without any struggle (you won't)

>(im german an plan to emigrate to the us)
Germany is among the top countries in work conditions and life/work balance. Why the fuck would you want to move to a shithole like the US?
Don't tell me you fell for the muh ray-fuugeez meme.

If you want to be a programmer/IT or doctor, and already have a job lined up here it is great. Pay is way higher here

If you plan on min wagecucking you are better off in Europe where there are actually white cities

what do you plan on doing in the USA once you arrive german bro ?

I wish I could work on my own business but you need a lot more than 10k to start.

It's really not hard at all. There are so many loopholes. All he would have to do is go to a US base in Germany and marry an American there if everything else fails.

>wanting to move to burgerland

is this some kind of satire?

I'm legal nigger, just tired of wageslaving for jews

what's wrong with USA ? wages are higher there for pretty much every kind of job.

so it's life

are you fucking retarded? serious question

user, how old are you?

oh come on, an IT developer can get 200k a year in burgerland easily. That kind of money is really hard to come across in western europe.

This country sucks man, get ready to struggle because there's no dream here anymore.

exactly this. I love the huge bike lanes and walking paths and ample trams and busses in Europe, but I wouldn't move there if I weren't rich. I don't want to make 26,000 Euros per year and get taxed at 40% after all the VATs and socialism.

Europe has twice the amount of people in about the same space as America. I'd still rather be here, generally.

Fuck off we're full, beaner scum!

>IT developer can get 200k a year in burgerland easily

the average wage in the UK for an adult is like 25k pounds. here it's like $34k. still better here. at least we aren't being taxed 40% making under 30K.

Your problem is that you are thinking in terms of money alone. You have to consider the quality of life in general and the work space quality in particular.
Germany is known to have the lowest working hours per week and the most paid vacations per year.
Americans tell me how much they love it here and many of them plan to settle in here after they finish their studies.
Whether you decide to go to the US or remain in Germany is your choice of course but I tell you to research every single aspect and not just money.
Good luck with whatever you want to do.

are you an anchor baby?

i've tried for 8 yeas and still stand at square zero. there are no "loopholes" if you want to do it legally. arrange marriage is considered a felony if it is meant for papers.

sure, i'm from a third world shithole and they make it impossible for people that really need help, eventhough i'm a mechanical engineer with 60k in cash in the bank.

german user will probably have better chances because of the place he was born in, although he very well could stay in germany. i wish i could live in germany. ironic my grandma was german but when i begged at the embassy for help to escape this shithole they told me to fuck off.

Anywhere on this list.

>meme
I thought people on here had some foresight, bringing an unlimited number of useless welfare leeches over generally does not end well

is that parody?

getting pretty closed to it though

my hometown is less than 40% white
i never see other germans but me at the gym
all schools are full of muds and they are getting more by the minute, literally
Atleast maybe 10% of american niggers are useful but with muds its a 0% quota

Yah when the crisis hits we will escape to a better place. But so far it is just one more million unemployed dead weights. Everything else is still good as ever from my side anyway (I live in Bavaria which is the least cucked state in this case).

Can you name the town please? I also live in Germany but I haven't seen this issue. Must suck to be you though. Why not just move to another state?

No. But I think it assumes you're making money online or have a big expat wage, not being a local wagecuck.

I lived in Taiwan and it was awesome.

oh you were a german shittalking the US
watch less ard and zdf you brainedead mongol
nrm near dortmund here

that's why I don't want to wageslave and the reason I started this thread. I know working conditions are much better here in EU but you can make more money in USA.

Also houses are much much cheaper

> mexico

Dortumund was infested with third worlders way before the refugees came in.
And no, I don't want the news and I do despise the third worlders, but that is not enough reason for me to move to a shithole like burgerland. For god's sake just look at their streets and cities, not a single city is that dirty in Germany.

i am german the refugee meme is small problem.Problem is the next goverment coalition in this or if we are lucky in the next election. Its called R2G it means RED RED GREAN Coalition, it would be the dawn of german economy thats why i wanna also leave, furthermore the political situation is stronger on the far right then ever (AFD) and ond the left aswell, not from seats in the parlament but from the extremists, just look hamburg or Hambacher forst.
Also generall the German mindset is about safety, equality, and general a dark mood.. every start up leaves for AUS, Britbong Land, the USA new zealand even for estonia, the only new companys that stay here are meme food deliver start ups.. burecraucy here is a ton more then in the usa also
> muh healthcare
but pay around 180 Euro every month only for healthcare
> muh retirent..
wont get a cent only if the refugees breed like shit and their children will become high paying workers
> muh work life time balance
its shit because you cant make additionla money and if you are selfemployed and wanna employ sb it will brake your neck because you have to pay nearly the same amount of sallery additional to the sallery in taxes and stuff to the gov.

Also i want guns and you reall get blamed here if you show off your money, i make some money with my gardening company and i employ Polacs illegal because i cant afford fucking german workers. Thats why i want to leave, us is my fav because i believe your main value is freedom, so is mine, but i am also ok with NZ and AUS or Thailand to my grandma if i cant get a greencard

he is a bavarian german
he is not from the us
he might have never informed himself of other countries and their conditions
he believes germany is a nice to live in country

i would rather go to italy greece or saudi arabia instead of the top 4 on your list

i dont care about working conditions or taxes or making money
i want a safe haven to start a family and to start producing my very own soccer team that can live in that place for generations
germany will not be a safe space in the future and is not right now islam will undermine germany by a 100% centainty and there will either be a real brutal civil war or germany will go islamic and become islamic in maybe 40 years

i forgot that germany is drifting further and further left like the frog above me said
we are literally going into sozialism
i dont want to live in this country any longer than i have to

uez user meddl an dich

also this, a house is here minimum 150k Euro, a small one cause of building regulations and muh climate change I DONT FUCKIN CARE I JUST WANT MY KEKSHAD

i gues this election FDP and CDU can get one last time a majority, but next election we are fucked and we gonna make debt like berlin.
If you burgers wanna see how shity it can become just to inform you , nearly all of berlin is payed buy bavaria , because berlin is long time governt by this r2g coaliton, if you wanna healthcare have fun wih it :) oh and dont dare to say sth mean to the goverment ! its Hatespeech dummy, you will get arested ! Isnt that cool ? no meany words and other opinions ( thx to heiko maas one of the social dems in gov)

Ideally I would want to make money in USA and later on settle down in Italy or in a rural area in America.

With 500k you can literally buy a fucking palace in a rural area in USA, whereas in EU you might be able to get a 2 bedroom cuckshed.

USA is the land of milk and honey.

>not earning tons of money in USA and dumping it on bitcoins

how come germany is one of the richest countries on earth yet you say there are no startups ?

> palace
> "rural area"

i think you mean shithole middle of nowhere no one wants to live in and its cheap for that reason.

This thread is two hours old so I don't expect a reply from OP, but:

Why are you coming to the USA?
What do you plan on doing once you get here?
Do you have citizenship, or are you coming with a work visa?
Do you have any skills/talents/experience in anything that isn't flipping burgers for minimum wage?
What do you do currently in the EU?

german here
heres whats wrong with germany

>highest taxes in EU (after belgium - not even a real country, so doenst count)
>massive overregulation
>wages suck compared to US
>getting flooded with niggers and arabs
>government will literally take 60% of your money and give it to shitkins to breed you out of existence

so yeah Im considering a move to the US too

telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/rogerbootle/10221867/The-Germans-are-walking-tall-in-the-eurozone-but-just-how-rich-are-they.html

Nevertheless, when you look at less distorted measures of material success, the Germans are not as well off as you might think. If you look at GDP per head, then of course Germany comes out well ahead of Portugal, Greece, Cyprus, Spain and Italy. But in fact Germany is only just above the eurozone average.

When it comes to household consumption, the picture is more striking. And there should not be that much surprise in this either.

Since 1999, German average earnings have risen by about 23pc, compared with 39pc for France and 48pc for the UK.

germany are not rich

lmgtfy.com/?q=how rich is germany

after ww two were good conditions for buisness, and if you have to build up a whole country its easy to fund companys because you have a whole market to fill, but over time burecreacy growths so much and to become a biz man is pretty unaccapted by society now, your family will blame you because you risk so much and can drive you biz against the wall. Its hard to do biz here, its mostly common you take over a biz from your parents or in rare cases if your really good worker in a small company, the owner sometimess sells the company cheap to his favorite employed if he has no children himself, but most buisness stuff is done by the huge old companys like BAYA, VW, BMW, Alliance, BOSCH etc. because they can afford burecraucy workers and workers in generall, also they can afford the ground to expand their company, like i said land is expensive and builidings are super expensive. Also you have to buy safety stuff and courses. the only biz you can do here is maybe online stuff, but all the internet meme cucks leave for muh silicon valley bs. I was just lucky with my gardening biz because i hoped on the trend for regional food and a greenhouse doenst need a lot of regulaiton, also i employ the polacs illegal.
> short
> all money if from huge automobile and pharmacy companys from after war
> if biz condition will be socialist cuck shit in next or next next election
> chinks will fuck our economy
> chinks already buy a lot of old german companys

T. Christian Lindner
> tfw hes right

this
corporations and politicans are getting filthy rich
middle class is dying out
and after elections this year they will raise taxes even more
germany is a slave colony and a terrible place if youre ambitious and want to make money

great place if youre a nigger and want to live on welfare though

Kek you don't know shit about the USA

Here in the USA, you get eaten alive by things other than taxes. You pay your taxes, but healthcare is shit, you work long hours, but don't have nearly the same quality of life as European countries. You complain about refugees, but here we have literal no-go areas in cities because the cops are afraid to enter them.

I love this country, but I know that there are a LOT of things wrong with it. It's not all fireworks and hamburgers, sadly.

If youre moving to usa, and only have 10k, bet your ass you will be wage slavin, boy. Welcome home, have fun.

visit a major eu city or the ruhr area in germany
you will change your opionion as fast as your neurones can fire buddy

40% after VAT? Closer to 60-75% after VAT here in scandinavia

I actually visited Budapest, Hamburg, Dresden, and Prague before the refugee crisis. It was very nice.

:^)

and you dont know shit about germany
income tax here is 42% if you make more than a measly 70k a year
on top of that you got healthcare (which is shit here too), social security (which goes directly to niggers), capitalgains taxes, real estate tax, 19% VAt and the list goes on and on and on

at the end of the day youre lucky if they leave you about a third of your money

US has lower taxes
99% white states
guns
in my field I could probably 3x my income just by moving to the US

and what quality of life are you talking about exactly?

noone said US is paradise. but if you want to make money its infinitely better than western europe.

i guess everything but hamburg is still nice
its not just before the refugee crisis
stuff is spiraling down real fast since 2000
if you visited before that you might have seen the last nice image about modern day germany

is quality of live accounting your daughers getting raped in borad daylight or at public celebrations

you have no idea

It ain't that much better in the US regarding taxes.
taxfoundation.org/average-us-worker-pays-over-16000-income-and-payroll-taxes/

You've never been to Europe though
I've lived in America for a few months, you absolutely have it better. You've got the space to hide from diversity. Your blacks are on average harder workers than arabs - due to the simple fact they work at all! Socialized healthcare isn't so great because the same arabs on welfare hog up every doctor since they can come at any hour of the day. You need money in the US, but at the same time making 6 figures is trivially easy compared to Europe. You've been born in the land of easy mode (only australia has it even better) and you're blind to that because it's the norm to you. Europe is easier if you're a slave but 10x times harder if you have the drive to desire more from life.

>The average U.S. worker faces a tax burden of 31.3 percent.

lol
I would kill to pay only 31.3 percent in taxes
you still dont get it, do you?

thelocal.de/20170411/germany-has-second-biggest-tax-burden-worldwide-report-shows

The quality is pretty shit here, i know it sounds like a meme user, but the most people here are the most time depressed, just the good think about germans is they dont swallo tons of antidepresivas like the scandinavicucks.

I think you dont know how it is to dont have so much freedom as you do, i hated the usa because i thought you are so patriotic and arrogant, then i was in holiday in the usa and slowly understanded that you patriotism is way more a love for freedom, i never enjoyed live as much as in burgerland.
> hiiking and shooting in idaho
> slap city singing
> rainbows with meme hippies
> cheap icetea everywhere
> nice greetings from people
> so much individualistic persons
> finnaly get appreacheadet for being biz boy
> georgia with rednecks

one thing annoys me, dont wanna sound racicst, i am a shitskin myself but the blacks are really all pretty agressive besides them in Orleans.

user even that you can hunt that easy, i have to pay here over 8k in Euro for hunting licence + cheap rifle

T. Racicst user

the most welfare is consumed by east germans, wich a majority still suports nazis or cuckoonism

The American dream is to work until you are unable to then retire to the years you spend waiting to die. This country is a shit hole under the guise of greatness.

Wew, you burgers really don't understand how lucky you are.
I'd suck dicks of everyone in this thread for American citizenship.

I'm sure you're completely impartial as a self-professed shitskin.
Your 90 IQ probably doesn't comprehend the notion of per capita.
Regardless, I'm in France and arabs use the most welfare EVEN in absolute terms, this is why the law forbids ethnic statistics.
I don't give a shit about your kind, I don't give a shit about my country anymore, you're just disgusting people with disgusting customs who ruin my happiness and I want to go as far away from you as possible.

t. niggerloving communist

wsj.com/articles/germany-puts-migration-related-costs-at-over-86-billion-over-next-four-years-1467392402

cant even go fishing in germany without having a fucking license

American freedoms are getting tighter and tighter every year. This country really is not paradise. Guns are not worth dealing with this shitty meme of a country.

>implying i would live on welfare
> being french
stop socialist cuck

germany would be a good country if they wouldnt combine DDR and BRD, seperate states with open border would be fine, so the DDR could contuine they socialist shit like the french and i would live a happy life in the BDR

I hate communists, but some of my cildhoodfriends are now unironical antifas, uni was also invested, you dont know how much it hurts if you trigger me with that
REEEE
To be fair fishing licence is ceap for 80 Euro but i am annoyed to spend 2 months or what is it ? for a fucking fishing licence

>Germany’s tax wedges was much lower for married couples with children, at 34 percent

Is it that you can't get married user?

Yeah i regogniced the mood shifts, i guess you addoped some german values, but i have more hope in your country, where freedom was and propaly still is one of the main values, here in germany the freedom maybe thrifed 45 until the late 60s

okay, retards. read this to have your hopes of reaching the US crushed
reason.org/files/a87d1550853898a9b306ef458f116079.pdf

and trump wants to halve the legal immigrants by half

> Why are you coming to the USA?
To make money

> What do you plan on doing once you get here?
work as a wageslave, tired of doing that though, maybe start my company, need money though

> Do you have citizenship, or are you coming with a work visa?
visa but not tied to any company so I can do whatever I want

> Do you have any skills/talents/experience in anything that isn't flipping burgers for minimum wage?
Software Developer

> What do you do currently in the EU?
Software Developer

Unironically Slovenia, provided you aren't a wageslave

oh wait youre a shitskin yourself
and youre in favour of immigration
well colour me surprised

and you piece of shit have the nerve to complain about east germans?
get the fuck out of my country and go back to whatever hellhole you crawled out of

Use your 10k to buy an old pickup, a little trailer, and some lawn care equipment and then cut old ladies' lawns for a couple hundred bucks a day. No more wageslaving for you!

what visa?

>live in oppressive socialist hellhole
>2nd highest taxes in the world
>"LOL just get married user"

You don't need a 9-5. Come to Boston and get a 630-11 like me.

whats so great about slovenia user?
seems like a post-gommunist shithole to me
these are usually not the greatest places to live

O1

According to your easiest way is to get married to an American.

I'm ooropoor and would love to become one with the burgers. America is the land of opportunities!

>O1
o1a, o1b, o2?

but if it fraudulent, you get the boot. and if not, you are hooked with alimony for life

yeah no thx
everybody knows american wimmen are the biggest whores on the planet
no offense to my future US host country of course

Try to get a job with a big tech company, learn as much as you can about marketing both products and yourself, try to spread your name around and build up your resume.

Try and live cheaply (It will be hard considering all of the big tech companies live in rather expensive areas) and reinvest your money into other things when possible. Only way to beat the life of a wageslave is to build up enough money-making assets so your passive income is enough to surpass living expenses.

>Marrying an Army girl

Women in the military (at least here) are probably the biggest whores on the planet. Stay far away from them.

>alimony
>whores
It is your fault for falling for the first pussy you see. You have to learn how to choose your wife anons.

Doesn't have to be an army girl. Just go to any international program gathering in any university. Bam, lots of americans.

yeah, no. i call shenanigans. i'm reading about the O1 visa

if you had this visa, you wouldn't have made this thread