I don't think there's ever been one here before.
Pic related. The 'Iron Pillar of Delhi'. Made in about 400 BC and is about 23 feet high and 6000 kg.
It's one of the first examples of a non-corrosive material in the world. As you can see the settings around it have crumbled away to dust but it still stands strong.
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Elephanta Caves. Made about in the 5th or 6th AD. Simple rock cut architecture and made from a small kingdom long dead.
Why? I've seen Roman/Greek/Mesopotamia threads before.
Khajuraho Monuments. The Chandela dynasty, who made these temples firmly believed in the Tantric school of thought. The gist of which, is that their needs to be perfect balance between the male and female.
And here are the statues.
The basic beliefs were that men hold the physical form while women contain the 'energy' or soul if you want to call it. Only together could they reach unity.
Tbh I think it was just a chance to make pornographic statues...
The Ellora caves. It was one of the first examples in mixing in the expressions of three major sub-religions of the sub-continent: Buddhism, Hinduism and Jainism. Not intentionally however. It started out with Hinduism and melted into the other two later.
It started being made around 550 BC and had two eras. The first Hindu phase which was about ~550 BC to a Buddhist phase around 650 BC and a later Hindu and Jain blend phase around 730 BC.
Dunno. The sticky just says they're discouraged.
Those details are amazing!
The Chittorgarh fort. It's unknown when it was first made but the first time it was attacked was around in the 7th Century AD. It's most memorable moment is when it was besieged by Akbar in the mid-1th century.
He attacked the fort with about around 5,000 men which rapidly grew in the upcoming months to be around sixteen times as much. The Rajputs fought for four months before falling and then being swamped by the hordes as well as all of the Rajput women sudokuing themselves to avoid being raped.
After that Akbar stuck the heads of everyone all around the tower lmao
another shot
how safe is swimming in that pool
You'll love this one then. It's my personal favorite
Rani ki vav (Queen's Stepwell) was built as a memorial to the 11th century AD king Bhimdev of the Chaulukya dynasty. It's most commonly assumed it was made by his widowed queen Udayamati.
It has about a length of seven storeys. All of seven of these storeys are carved with around 500 sculptures all together. All of which represent humans, kings, demons and gods with the central theme circling around the ten incarnations of Vishnu.
If you're dying you might as well go for it. Otherwise...
It's inverted so there's a pool at the bottom for people to chill/worship (it's filthy now tho)
And Akbar is supposed to be the most "progressive" mudslime emperor lmao.
Indian history is very interesting but it's also chaotic as hell and not as well recorded as Chinese history. I need to get into it.
Based Akbar
The Mahabodhi Temple. It was first made in 250 BC by Emperor Asoka, the first guy to unite all of India, to commemorate the Bodh Gaya. The Bodh Gaya holds...
You gotta think about it from his perspective. He tried persuading them to accept his sovereignty at first peacefully even tho his army kind was vastly larger as well as having guns, cannons and many more war elephants then them. Although the Rajputs were probably better trained independently, getting BTFO was the only card left on the table.
But then they refused so he had to preserve his dignity at getting told to fuck off and attack them.
It is pretty well recorded tho. It's just that a lot of the documents that recorded our BC and early AD is history is gone because of the Turk's (thanks again guys).
For example the Nalanda university got burned down because they wanted to uproot Buddhism.
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user meant that there's a lot of missing info for India. We still don't know what the Harappan language is for example. Whereas Chinese history is recorded to autistic levels.
... the Bodhi Tree, which is the tree in which under Buddha gained enlightenment. So you can imagine it's a pretty big deal for Buddhists .
>user meant that there's a lot of missing info for India. We still don't know what the Harappan language is for example. Whereas Chinese history is recorded to autistic levels.
Yeah I guess you're right about that desu
This little area here was the battlefield for the Ashoka (back then he was known as Ashoka the Conqueror) and the Kalinga Kingdom.
He sieged the kingdom with about 70,000 men against another equal amount and ultimately emerged victorious.
But after seeing all of the casualties from the war + the massacre he caused indirectly by his soldiers going berserk on the civilian population caused him to convert to Buddhism where he would spend the rest of his life spreading Buddhism across Asia.
>Emperor Asoka, the first guy to unite all of India
Looks like he missed a spot.
Later on he was known as Ashoka the Great.
The patch of gray to the right is what he got.
That's the Tamil kingdoms, right?
didn't want to cause a curry shortage
The Konark Sun Temple is a Sun Temple created in the 13th-century BC to worship the sun. It was developed by Narasimhadeva I of Eastern Ganga Dynasty.
The temple was been built to represent the giant ornamented chariot of the Sun god, Surya. As you can see on the side there are 2 wheels which are 3 meter long each and are elaborately carved into twelve pairs.
And it's worth remembering the Rajputs only ever had 8,000 soldiers during the entire siege
The wheels aren't ordinary wheels too. They can also tell the time as well by the spokes of the wheels creating an artistic sundial.
There are too statues in front of the temple. On top is the lion, after the elephant and then a human.
Priests say it was an attempt to depict human mortality.
The Temple is partially destroyed now because of two massive magnets that lay on the top and bottom of the temple which helped it float (slightly).
These Konark Temple Magnets which were utilized for the construction of the temple were troubling the Portuguese sailors as the magnetic bars pulled their vessels causing massive damages. In order to combat this they got rid of one of the magnets abstracted out of the temple which caused the temple to lose its balance in the absence of the magnet’s magnetic effects.
oh well.
The temple was made in the Kalinga architecture style so it might be similar.
Those are the Tamil kings; nobody conquers the Tamil kings.
Why couldn't they be conquered?
The Tamils made peace with Ashoka and agreed to pay tributes. They were big players in the Indian spice trade at the time so they could afford to get away with it.
Dumping ancient Indian architecture
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tell me more about magnet wizardry
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too irrelevant.
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Why does ancient India seems so marvelous and modern India seems so uh, not?
>conquering the southern peninsula and having control over the spice trade is irrelevant
I'll talk about a person now.
Baba Deep Singh was born in about 1682. He started learning weaponry, riding and other martial skills from childhood due to the memory of rampant Mughal oppression still fresh in the SIkh's minds.
In 1757 Ahmad Shah Durrani took advantage of the carcass of the Mughal Empire and invaded the fourth time. The first two invasions were unsuccessful while third partially was with the Marathas inflicting heavy wounds (before they scurried to save their own asses) causing them to promptly leave after looting Delhi a bit.
The fourth one was a more prolonged trip with the intention to loot as much as they could. After coming to Delhi they took as many with a plundered and slaves as they could.
Baba Singh wasn't going to let it that shit fly tho.
Through a series of guerrilla campaigns his soldiers retook most of the 'cargo' that was stolen. Enraged by the loss, Ahmad Shah ordered the GoldenShrine (basically the /K'Bah for Sikh's) to be blown up and the sacred pool filled with the corpses of slaughtered cows. Shah assigned the Punjabregion to his son and left him a force of 10k men under General Jahan Khan.
As soon as BS heard that the Golden Temple had been ravaged, he pulled his dusty old Khanda off the wall and started marching towards Amritsar withabout 500 men. At every village he came across on the way he'd rally a bunch of furious people until he had an army of around 5k.
The improvised 'army' threw themselves at the soldiers and managed to repel them. BS was killed mid-battle and although there's a popular myth about how he continued fighting with no head, what most likely happened was that he was mortally wounded with a blow to the neck, but not completely decapitated so he could still continue fighting.
His death inspired a lot of people and in fifty years time the Sikh's would be the dominant force in Northern India, despite being outnumbered largely in their wars with the Rajputs and Afghans.
A-anybody still here?
they already were receiving tribute from them and had spice ports of their own like barygaza.
Imperialism, colonialism,
probably because it was a pretty unique and somewhat secluded part of the world at the time and right now you are seeing indians everywhere in the news as A)streetshitters B)Rapists. The 60s were the the last time india was shown somewhat positively in the western world.
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Based Sikhs. Maybe there would be no Pakistan today had they defeated the eternally perfidious Anglos
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funny because the earlier british company traders went full native for the most part. By the time the EIC started expanding rapidly those officers were being replaced by Nabobs who wanted to make a quick buck and go back home.
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the brits would have been curtailed if the marathas had asked for a much harsher peace treaty after the first anglo maratha war. Their operations weren't damaged at all and it was a pretty basic white peace.
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Ancient Indian Chess
First recorded surgeon who also did plastic surgery in India
Boddhisatva
Ancient Indian trigonometry measuring the distance between the earth and the sun. They were off by a few inches by today's standards.
to be fair trig as we know it was an indian invention. It's kinda funny how the terms sine and cosine came into being.
Well, it is 400 CE, not BC.
metallurgically speaking, the impressive fact is not that the artifact is non-corrosive, thats the nice side effect of a beneficial materials combination in the production process.
Whats insane is the size and construction of that thing, like it took the rest of the world a 1100 years to catch up in technology to produce ferro metal pieces of the same size.
India can righteously claim to be the world champion for iron and steel from 300 BC to around 1500-1700 CE.
Between every two stones an iron plate's been placed.
Massive iron beams have also been used to construct the higher floors of the temple.
A 52-ton magnet was used to create the peak of the main temple. It's said that the
entire structure only tolerated the harsh conditions of the sea (it was made to directly overlook it) for so long is because of this magnet.
So after it was removed well...
* Constantinople/Ka'Bah
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Also, for every village they stopped at he'd constantly say right before they left
>"Once you step onto this path, you may well give up your head rather than the cause."
Also he was 75 when he kicked it wew.
>the brits would have been curtailed if the marathas had asked for a much harsher peace treaty after the first anglo maratha war.
They would have been curtailed if the Marathas didn't lose the Third Battle of the Panipat, due to thinking they could juggle a hundred or so thousand civilians and fight a trained enemy that outnumbered them without allies.
Seriously. It's when you see that the Durrani's managed to come with thousands of allies despite everything that you finally manage to remember what massive dicks the Maratha's were behind their pan-Hindu crap.
I hate these threads.
>start reading on Indian myths, architecture and history
>get hooked on it, I find them aesthetically perfect
>go to India
>it's a capitalist dystopia
It was disheartening, really.
The Kerala school of astronomy and mathematics discovered a few of the principles of Calculus about two centuries before Newton:
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I-it'll change eventually...
Geometry as well. Pythagoras is said to travel to India to learn mathematics.
The teachers of this schools are referred to as "Vaidyas". All mathematics can be traced back to India, including algebra. People think of the middle east/islam when they hear algebra, but the math itself predates it in India. Without the number 0, no math can be solved. Without the Indian numerical system, it would be nearly impossible to do math. I would like to see someone add, subtract, divide, or do basic multiplication using roman numerals.
An interesting fact that the Indians invented the number 0 can actually be attributed to Buddhist sutra such as the Heart/Prajnaparamita Sutra where the Bodhisattva Avalokiteśvara explains the phenomenon called "Sunyata" (emptiness).
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>Ancient Indian trig
>Greek writing all over the page
wew
False
Arabic peoples had their own numerals that utilized counting corners. The numerals shown here for "Arabic" are a later set that replaced their own numerals. North Africa still uses the old set and Europe eventually picked that up
Lmao
I began to admire ancient Indian culture when I read Rene Guenon's book East and West. I finally got it. In Hinduism, there's no antithesis between science and religion. On the contrary, all arts and sciences revolve around religion. For example they needed to build altars, so they studied geometry to construct altars having precise measurements. They needed to clarify the meaning of a certain obscure passage in scripture, so they invented etymology and logic. They needed to find out the most auspicious days for sacrifices, birth, marriages, so they studied astronomy. Etc. the only time in the Western world that has something similar was the Christian Middle Ages. This also debunks atheists who claim that religion is an impediment for scientific progress. Historically we see that it was the contrary.
That's not the paper he was talking about tho. I have no idea why he uploaded it...
I made a mistake of using trigonometry to measure the distance of the earth to sun. I mean using trigonometry to measure the circumference of the Earth.
Ancient India's contributions in the field of astronomy are well known and well documented. The earliest references to astronomy are found in the Rig Veda, which are dated 2000 BC. During next 2500 years, by 500 AD, ancient Indian astronomy has emerged as an important part of Indian studies and its affect is also seen in several treatises of that period. In some instances, astronomical principles were borrowed to explain matters, pertaining to astrology, like casting of a horoscope. Apart from this linkage of astronomy with astrology in ancient India, science of astronomy continued to develop independently, and culminated into original findings, like:
The calculation of occurrences of eclipses
Determination of Earth's circumference
Theorizing about the theory of gravitation
Determining that sun was a star and determination of number of planets under our solar system
There are astronomical references of chronological significance in the Vedas. Some Vedic notices mark the beginning of the year and that of the vernal equinox in Orion. This was the case around 4500 BC. Fire altars, with astronomical basis, have been found in the third millennium cities of India. The texts that describe their designs are conservatively dated to the first millennium BC, but their contents appear to be much older.
Yajnavalkya (perhaps 1800 BC) advanced a 95-year cycle to synchronize the motions of the sun and the moon.A text on Vedic astronomy that has been dated to 1350 BC, was written by Lagadha.
In 500 AD, Aryabhata presented a mathematical system that took the earth to spin on its axis and considered the motions of the planets with respect to the sun (in other words it was heliocentric). His book, the Aryabhatya, presented astronomical and mathematical theories in which the Earth was taken to be spinning on its axis and the periods of the planets were given with respect to the sun.
In this book, the day was reckoned from one sunrise to the next, whereas in his Aryabhata-siddhanta he took the day from one midnight to another. There was also difference in some astronomical parameters.
Aryabhata wrote that 1,582,237,500 rotations of the Earth equal 57,753,336 lunar orbits. This is an extremely accurate ratio of a fundamental astronomical ratio (1,582,237,500/57,753,336 = 27.3964693572), and is perhaps the oldest astronomical constant calculated to such accuracy.Brahmagupta (598-668) was the head of the astronomical observatory at Ujjain and during his tenure there wrote a text on astronomy, the Brahmasphutasiddhanta in 628.
Bhaskara (1114-1185) was the head of the astronomical observatory at Ujjain, continuing the mathematical tradition of Brahmagupta. He wrote the Siddhantasiromani which consists of two parts: Goladhyaya (sphere) and Grahaganita (mathematics of the planets).
The other important names of historical astronomers from India are Madhava and Nilakantha.
>ywn live in an organic society
Would you say a lack of classifying things as blasphemous meant Indians were more free thinking.
What acts as a limitation on abrahamic religions is the fear of doing something sinful and therefore a people too scated to think free because they dont want into hell.
Arabic numbers were influenced by Indian numbers. They had to agree upon a single numerical system in order for trade and currency exchange to be met. This numerical system traces back to India. India was the powerhouse of trading in those times because the subcontinent's peninsula surrounded itself around the Indian Ocean as well as the Arabian sea.
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the marathas raiding bengal also didn't help. The brits exploited the power vaccum in india after panipat which is when they started becoming relevant.
it combines the worst of socialism and capitalism combined. Fucking hell this country wasn't so bad when I was growing up. People were poor but they looked after their own communities and extended familes.
Right now it's a cancerous mix of gibsmedat and burger republican tier "minimum government"
TOO MANY INDIAN NATIONALISTS ITT
ABORT
Good point. In Hinduism (and Buddhism) there is a great tradition of debates. Even atheistic or nastika schools of thought were considered valid. So this freedom must have contributed too.
In medieval scholasticism there was a tradition of debates too, but these were made within very limited confines.
that's actual fact though. Plastic surgery is attested by the gr*eks
/general/ threads need to fucking die
Not him but archaeologists found evidence of teeth having been drilled, dating back 9,000 years to 7000 BC
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This isn't plastic surgery however was wrong as. iirc, the Greeks did it first.
stop trying to revise history to make yourself feel better about being browner than your northern neighbors
I can't help but think that had Gnostic and other so-called heretical sects of Christianity been allowed to flourish, rather than brutally persecuted, the excesses of both religion and secularism could have been avoided in the west.
>the Greeks did it first
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>stop trying to revise history to make yourself feel better about being browner than your northern neighbors
Does every thread have to descend to shitflinging like this?
Not even him/her but I'm not ashamed about anything.
Heraclitus, Aristotle and the Stoics believed that the universe was eternal and underwent periodic cycles of creation and destruction as well. This would have been the dominant cosmological view of the west had it not adopted the Babylonian-Abrahamic worldview that says that the universe was created out of chaos in the beginning by god. Origen however, the first Christian theologian, tried to meme the idea that the destruction of the world talked about in revelation, and subsequent resurrection, was but one moment in an infinite series of cycles or aeons, and all souls currently existing will one day reincarnate, etc. But it was rejected as heresy.
>another greek revisionist
Heraclitus, Aristotle and the Stoics were all influenced by Pythagoras. As mentioned before, Pythagoras traveled to India to learn about Atlantis and in his journey he learned Indian mathematics as well.
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>After traveling to Egypt, Greece, and possibly India
Stop embarrassing us. It's never confirmed that he went to India.
>Greek revisionist
Where did I imply that Greeks invented the notion? I said that they believed as well. They may or may not have gotten it from India, which is a matter of speculation.
>Pythagoras traveled to India to learn about Atlantis
WE
>people like this exist
Universal literacy was a mistake
>The noun is from Middle English man, from Old English mann (“human being, person, man”), from Proto-Germanic *mann- (“human being, man”), probably from Proto-Indo-European *mon- (“man”) (compare also *men- (“mind”)). Cognate with West Frisian man, Dutch man, German Mann (“man”), Norwegian mann (“man”), Old Swedish maþer (“man”), Swedish man, Russian мyж (muž, “male person”), Avestan 𐬨𐬀𐬥𐬱 (manuš), Sanskrit मनु (manu, “human being”), Urdu مانس and Hindi मानस (mānas).
The Germanic and English word for man is also the Avestan and Sanskrit word for "human being", and is cognate with "mind". Human beings are those who possess mind according to the conception of the Indo-Europeans.
>and ignore what our teachers wanted us to hear
it was beautiful b8 until then but it got too obvious there
Derived terms Edit
Terms derived from the PIE root *men- (think)
*mn̥-yé-tor (deponent yé-present)
Celtic: *manyetor (see there for further descendants)
Hellenic: *məňňómai?
Ancient Greek: μαίνομαι (maínomai), μνάομαι (mnáomai)
Indo-Iranian:
Indo-Aryan:
Sanskrit: मन्यते (mányate)
Iranian:
Avestan: 𐬨𐬀𐬌𐬥𐬌𐬌𐬈𐬙𐬈 (mainiiete)
Old Persian: 𐎶𐎡𐎴𐎹𐎠𐏃𐎹 (mainyāhay)
*me-món-e ~ *me-mn-ḗr (stative)
*mon-éye-ti (causative)
Italic: *moneō
Latin: moneō
*mn-eh2-sḱé-ti
Ancient Greek: μιμνήσkω (mimnḗskō)
*mén-mn̥ ~ *mn̥-mén-s (“understanding”)
Celtic: *menman (see there for further descendants)
Indo-Iranian:
Indo-Aryan:
Sanskrit: मन्मन् (mánman)
*mén-os ~ *mén-es- (“mind”)
*me-mn-os ~ *me-mn-es-
Italic: *memnos
Latin: memor
*mén-ti-s ~ *mn̥-téy-s (“thought”)
*mén-tro-m
Indo-Iranian:
Indo-Aryan:
Sanskrit: मन्त्र (mántra)
Really made me... think.
>Pythagoras traveled to India
That story is about as credible as the claim that his father was Apollo himself.
What people ignore, willfully or not, is that Greeks made up stories about far away lands like "India" and "Ethiopia" (they couldn't decide whether Ethiopia was in Africa or in Asia though) to legitimize certain narratives. These are the same stories that tell of giant ants and dog-headed people living in these lands. So it went like this. Pythagoras didn't made up all these things out of his imagination. No. He studied in an ancient "secret school" in Chaldea. Oh and also Egypt and India. New agers are still using this same trick to this day.
>Seemingly balanced, even handed India general
James Mill would be angry.
I wish I had a scanner, I have a few books of Indian art and architecture lying around..