We need to talk about this religion

>what are the unique reasons why Islam is violent compared to Christianity now a days

It's an Arab problem, not a Muslim problem. Most Muslims live in India, Indonesia, and Central Asia, and don't really bug anyone.

The type of Shia Islam Iran expouses is a sect. Not all Shias accept the idea that the Guardianship of the Jurist extends to everybody. The Salafist/Wahabbi doctrine expoused by most terrorist is also a sect. The muslim world is still divided on the interpretation of the Koran despite is being the suppose word of God. Hadith also play a role.

My Shia friend says the terrorists follow the teachings of religious leaders and hadiths whatever those are.
He says they are all heretics who pay no heed to the Quran. Is this true?

WHO CARES ABOUT WHY MUDSLIMES DO MUDSLIME THINGS?

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I wouldn't go that far. There are issues with Muslims in those regions as well. Look at the protests against Christians in Indonesia or the various conflicts Muslim's have had with the Hindu's historically speaking.

That said, I think the issue with Muslim's is more political than it is religious but I don't think we should pretend there aren't issues with the Muslim's living in those regions.

Well Chris. Hitchens makes a suprisingly good point about Hamas' suicide bombers in Jerusalem. They didnt stop bombing because the Palestinians became less miserable. Rather it was because "nasty, vicious, fanatical old men, not human emotions, were making the decisions and deciding the days and hours of death."

In that regard it's less following the Koran and more upholding a death cult. I think there's a grain of truth to what your friend said tho at the end of the day what determines the religion is which sect has the most guns.

The West backed fundamentalist radicals and dictators during the Cold War to destabilize the Middle East, in order to keep the Russians from having any control of it

They never bothered to clean up the mess until after their chickens had come home to roost on 9/11

Unironically it is because Muhammad was a professional warrior. Both Christianity and Islam are designed to replicate their founder's personality within their adherents because Jesus and Mohammad are the ideal Christian and Muslim respectively.That there are passages in the Koran which take place on the battlefield and depict Mohammad himself engaged in warfare means that wherever Islam is preached there must always be war because war is forever enshrined in their most holy text and by the actions of their prophet. Conversely Jesus was a craftsman who's most violent outburst consisted of Him flipping tables and whipping some merchants. It is extremely significant that Jesus never partook in deadly combat as Mohammad did and this goes to the heart of the difference between these two faiths.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jemaah_Islamiyah

Islam isn't to blame, it's the region and the hate towards the west. If it was Islam, we would be seeing a lot more Indonesian suicide bombers. This is why all the talk of banning Muslims is counter-productive, you're just feeding the fire and validating the narrative that the west is incompatible with Islam and must be irradicated.

If it is just because of regional hate, how come there are no secular/Christian/Jewish/pagan Middle Eastern suicide bombers?

How can the West be compatible with Islam when Islam demands Sharia law?

Because the West is retarded and keeps on funding and has funded extremist muslim groups without any foresight.

There are all kinds of extremist groups in the world but only the Islamic ones do suicide bombings, why is that?

THATS ALI NOT MOHAMMAD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Yes, they are the only ones who do suicide bombings, but there are other groups that have massive attacks.

I can't remember how exactly suicide bombing got started (iirc it was hizbullah but I'm not sure) but a religious extremist group is naturally have people willing to die if they're promised paradise, which isn't the same for secular terrorist groups

>why is that?

Theologically the Quran is literally the word of god in Islam, like it's considered a miracle that it exists and Mohammed is just the last prophet. It's not really comparable to the position of the Bible within Christianity

Pretty much what said

But Christians and pagans believe in an afterlife, why don't they blow themselves up when they go to war? How come only Muslims do it?

Plenty of terrorist groups use suicide tactics.

But how come only Muslims blow themselves up a pop concerts?

No idea
It's just a good tactic I guess

If it was such a good tactic you'd think other groups would use it as well but only Muslims do it so there must be something special about Islam that makes people blow themselves up.

Wahhabism.

can we just delete this polshit thread? you're more likely to be killed by a right winger than a muslim. stop trying to justify your fear of brown people with your retarded "muh terrorism" narrative, when it's white men who are actually the dangerous ones.

It's a good tactic for people who are willing to die for their cause. I don't actually know the Islamic position on auicide in general but it's sinful in all Christian sects so it wouldn't take root there and secular groups wouldn't want to kill themselves for their cause

Other groups aren't at such a technological disadvantage that they need to rely on improvised explosives to kill others. Mass shooters kill themselves at the end of their run too. It's not like the 'essence of Islam' is manifest in these actions, it's just what disenfranchised young men tend to do.

Willing to die for your cause is does not require blowing yourself up at an Ariana Grande concert.

No one is saying isis are master strategists
And you don't need to post a pic with every post you make

Why are you hung up on suicide bombings specifically?

I just want to know why it is only Islamic young men who do suicide bombings specifically. There are plenty of other disadvantaged militants who rely on improvised explosives, Timothy McVeigh for example, but yet only Muslims do suicide bombings. It really makes me think.

>don't post images on an image board

But Christians are still significantly more violent than Muslims

They had both, and, unlike Christians, they had more than one Reformation and Enlightenment

Because there was another one in Manchester today.

Muslims are right wingers of the worst kind, sweetie.

fuck off

umm honey mohammad was a feminist. dont you read huffpo??

huffingtonpost.com/jim-garrison/muhammad-was-a-feminist_b_12638112.html

There are bombings all over the world daily
Also
>today
This is a history board

asking a history question

So if there was a gunman who shot up the crows and offed himself, that would be ok? Throughout this thread, you're bringing up the fact that Muslims are the only ones doing suicide bombings

You do understand that Islam mandates its followers to emulate Jesus too, right? In Islam, Jesus is considered as much a perfect Muslim as Muhammed is, which is why explaining the difference between Christianity and Islam by comparing Jesus and Muhammed is extremely retarded.

Not really
Only the earliest parts of Islamic suicide bombings fall in the jurisdiction of this board

Is your concern the combination of explosives and suicide? Because Islamists don't necessarily die when they commit acts of terror (sometimes guns are used, or trucks) and sometimes get caught. And other forms of terror (mass shootings) the terrorist sometimes ends up killing themselves anyway. Are you trying to suggest there is something in the Koran about explosives?

Are you retarded?

Muhammad was a warlord

literally Islam's most cherished figure was a man that spread Islam with the sword and conquered and killed people

you can obviously see why this important fact could cause Islam to be unique compared to Christianity and Islam

look, little triggered poltards can't handle the truth

go back to your echo chamber, nazis

Because most Christians have access to advanced weapons and therefore do not have to use this tactic.

thats why the vast majority of terror attacks on the planet are of islamic origin

The Jesus of the Gospels and the Jesus of the Koran are two completely different people. It's absurd that Muslims believe the Koran's depiction of Jesus is accurate when it was written five hundred years of His birth.

Christianity also condemns suicide in every case, while it's more of a gray area in islam

Wiping some village off the map with a drone or missile isn't a terror attack?

Again, Jesus is as respected in Islam as Muhammed is, which is why the differences between Jesus and Muhammed do not explain the differences between Christianity and Islam, especially if you take into consideration that Christians venerate people who were as violent as Muhammed.

oh it's the >muh western intervention is the reason for islamic terrorism

even though most islamic terrorists are young western middle class men who have no political baggage besides

>they were mean to me

are you really compairing bombing suspected ISIS targets to mudslimes bombing a Arianna Grande concert

The vast majority of Muslim terrorists live in Muslim countries and kill other Muslims

The vast majority of both Christians and Muslims condemn suicide in virtually all cases. Muslims use suicide bombings more often than Christians for strategic, not theological reason. The belief that Islam permits suicide bombings is a heterodox view within Islamic theology

>oh it's the >muh western intervention is the reason for islamic terrorism

No. How about answering that question?

Muslims are simply incapable and incompatible of being civilized in Western culture

Yet all the suicide bombings are done by Muslims.

I would like to know why suicide bombings are unique to Muslims.

Yes I don't understand why non-Muslim terrorists aren't also blowing themselves up.

no because the intent between western bombing and islamic attacks are radically different that even attempting to create a compairson is laughable

>not being a consequentialist

Kys

Islam is the most violent religion on the planet at this moment

their is no dispute

"Suspected" is the key word here, the USA kills off of suspicion and often has massive collateral damage as a result of these stupid attacks, then blames Islam. ok

>Yet all the suicide bombings are done by Muslims

That's objectively not true.

Both are acts of war, yes? What I'm getting at is that 'terror attacks' are usually defined as having an Islamic origin so of course most 'terror attacks' are going to be of Islamic origin since that is literally their definition.

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The most violent religion at the moment is objectively Christianity. Who do you think killed more innocent people in the last decade, ISIS or US?

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You realize it could something that Islamic terrorist groups have taken up as a tactic and will leave behind once something else comes by, right?

Why is it that Shia symbolism is always used to portray Sunni terrorist attacks? This picture you're using depicts Husayn who's venerated by the Shiites for dying at the hands of the Sunni caliph in a place called Karbala

so the 19 year old belgian born westerner that joins ISIS is a result of western colonialism?

>US
>Christian

It's actually not that different. The Quran doesn't depict him as a warlord.

>Yes I don't understand why non-Muslim terrorists aren't also blowing themselves up.

Few use explosives. The ones who did wanted to keep blowing stuff up. It's also probably so heavily associated with Islam now that non-Muslims wouldn't do it.

comparing State actions and linking them to religion is laughable

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why is Islam the most violent religion on the planet

someone answer me this.

Don't know about that

independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-islamic-state-suicide-bombings-military-civilian-terror-attacks-record-900-year-report-mosul-a7604406.html

>More than 80 per cent of more than 900 suicide bombings last year hit military targets

Islamic terrorists didn't even invent suicide bombing.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_Tigers_of_Tamil_Eelam

The Koran claims that Jesus didn't actually die on the cross and that contradicts even the non-Christian sources we about Jesus!

This whole thread started with a discussion of the state action, you imbecile

Isn't it Husayn?

That's Christianity

What do you think the first S stands for in ISIS?

the fact is the most violent religion on the planet is Islam

the VAST MAJORITY of terror attacks are of islamic origin

why is that?

Irrelevant

Are you saying that U.S Bombing of ISIS targets is because of christian reasons?