What are some of history's greatest betrayals?

What are some of history's greatest betrayals?

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A betrayal is personal, this was a temporary pact made by politically opposed enemies who both were preparing for war, the Germans had the grace to strike first.
>the action of betraying one's country, a group, or a person; treachery.
You know, like the Rosenbergs in the OP.

Alger Hiss comes to mind. Benedict Arnold of course.

The death of Ernst Rohm and Otto Strasser.

mmmmmm
You'd still call what Hitler did a betrayal. Stalin wasn't expecting the invasion so soon.

>Stalin wasn't expecting the invasion so soon
>so soon

Once again, they were political opponents of Hitler and no longer members of the NSDAP. For fucks sake you fucking blow at this.
These are acceptable, although Benedict Arnold's was somewhat understandable.

>no longer members of the NSDAP
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>killing his lifelong friend wasn't a betrayl
>without even trying to sway him

Am I missing something? He expected Hitler to at least win the war in the west before he turned to the east.

The founder of Swedistan

>Lifelong friend
They didn't know each other until 1920
>In late April 1930, Hitler publicly and firmly announced his opposition to Gregor Strasser and appointed Goebbels as Reich leader of NSDAP propaganda.
It was all downhill from there. It isn't a betrayal if they're active enemies, even if they are politically similar.

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Need I say more?

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_betrayal

Stalin fucked up a litteral utopia. Never understood why

Anything you can say about Arnold you can say about Washington other than Arnold was on the losing side.

>Kill church members for no other reason than "muh bourgeoisie"
>Utopia

this is your brain on socialism

You can fairly say that Washington was a turn-coat from Britain, but Arnold was a turn-coat twice over so... I cannot say that anything I can say about Arnold I can say about Washington.

Munich Agreement

Alcibiades changed sides more often than a tennis ball.

youtube.com/watch?v=U6fmcXouVxg

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Fucking Brutus. I understand the why, him being a Catorean(?) Republican, and I understand Caesar would not have gone into exile. But still.
I can't understand how Americans defend these two. I also can't undertand how George Lincoln Rockwell had such a small following despite evidence such as this.

it's sad the the only jews who died in holocaust were just ordinary working class people and the real enemy was sitting comfy in USA counting their shekels from war profiteering.

>Rosen"""berg"""
really makes you think

thats why I will never follow stormfags. For all their memes about "no, I just hate jewish evil bankers!" all they do is go after regular jews and all Hitler did was massacre regular jewish peasents in eastern europe.

The only difference between the two is connections and opportunity. A snake in the wild is more dangerous than a snake in a cage, the only difference is location.

I'd say Arminius' betrayal of Varius (even if it was justified through the sheer idiocy of Varius and the Roman treatment of the Germanic tribes)

Thatcher's cabinet turning on her

This is worth a read about

>I can't understand how Americans defend these two.
A lot of people think that if you were accused of being a commie spy in the 40's and 50's, it must have not been true. Gee thanks McCarthy.

These two were guilty as fuck and any attempt to rehabilitate their reputation by any party is an assault on the security of this nation and liberty of its people. The only lesson we learned from this is that we should assassinate such filth rather than let it go to trial.

>The only lesson we learned from this is that we should assassinate such filth rather than let it go to trial.
that's not how we do things in America

>who is Anwar al-Awlaki
or whatever glasses dude's name was

and
>who is his 16 yr old son
both got dronebama'd without trial

that doesn't make it right
no one should be above or below the rule of law

I understand Jews joining the Bolshevik Party in Russia. They truly suffered persecution there under the tsar and all the pogroms.

But Germany? It was like contemporary America in assimilating Jews, Jews were not only not discriminated in Germany, but they had a lot of power and influence there, Walter Rathenau, for example, pretty much ruled the country economy during WWI.

Their attempted communist coup was pure betrayal at what was at the time the darkest hour of the German nation. At the time all Germans were more in need of unity, the Jews attempted to establish a hated regime.

Is there any wonder what they were disliked afterwards?

In matters of intelligence and covert operations, nothing is above or below the law.

Rohm and Hitler were good friends though. He only killed him so the army and industrialist would support him, and even then it took lies from Goering, Himmler, and Heydreich to get him to act. Hitler even hesitated before giving the order of Rohm's death.

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>Eugene Levine is a "literally who?"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugen_Leviné

>The ruling government of the new republic lasted only six days, due to poor leadership under the German playwright Ernst Toller. Leviné rose to power as the communists assumed control of the government.

>Leviné attempted to pass many reforms, such as giving the more luxurious flats to the homeless and giving workers control and ownership of factories. He also planned reforms for the education system and to abolish paper money, neither of which he ever completed.

>Under orders from Leviné, the Red Guards began rounding up people they considered to be hostile to the new regime as hostages against imminent outside attack. As the German president Friedrich Ebert gave orders to subdue the Council Republic and reinstate the Bavarian government under Johannes Hoffmann, the Red Guards executed eight hostages on 29 April 1919.

>The German Army, assisted by Freikorps, with a force of roughly 39,000 men, invaded and quickly conquered Munich on 3 May 1919. In retaliation for the execution of the hostages, the Freikorps captured and killed some 700 men and women. Leviné himself was arrested, found guilty as part of those executions, and was shot by firing squad in Stadelheim Prison. The political activities of German Jews such Kurt Eisner and the role of Leviné and many other prominent Jews such as Rosa Luxemburg in the establishment of the Bavarian Council Republic played prominently in the rise of Adolf Hitler and the other Nazis in Munich. [1]

Why is there an effort to hide and blot out the Jewish leadership of the Bavarian Socialist Republic?

This right here.

Brutus was only alive because Caesar was merciful and did not have his ass executed after defeat in the Civil War. Caesar was about to leave Rome on an expedition which killed the last guy to try it He was aging and his health was starting to fail.

Killing Caesar was absolutely unnecessary, even if you sincerely believed the Catonian idiocy that a guy who repeatedly refused efforts to make him a king wanted to be king.

>Varus

>prominent Jews such as Rosa Luxemburg in the establishment of the Bavarian Council Republic
this isn't true

>anarcho random executions of clergy and middle class that rival anything done by any "red terrors"
>spend less time fighting Franco and more time alienating middle class popular front allies
>"waaaaaaaah! stalin's fault!!"

PSUC and PCE did nothing wrong

>I count the Emperor amongst my friends. I would never betray him.
>Actually, disregard that, let's depose the bastard.
>Also exile him while we're at it.

>forgot picture
Well fug

>no mention of Ephialtes or Quisling yet

Both those names have come to mean traitor in their respective languages, though Quisling's contributions were pretty negligible in the end.

A few more

>Judas Iscariot
>Delilah
>Northumbria and Stanley at Bosworth Field
>most of the Nawab's allies at Plassey

>We're the army and we're tired of this empire shit, we want a republic
>We need a general who is prestigious and popular enough to unite everyone around this cause
>I guess there's Deodoro, but the guy is a fervent royalist... Well let's ask him anyway
>He actually did it the absolute madman!

a lot of snakes aren't harmful for one, so shitty metaphor stormshit
second your argument can be applied to any individual or group. with the right incentives anyone can be evil: jews aren't inherently more evil than anyone else

>is an assault on the security of this nation and liberty of its people.
if an event 60 years in the past threatens our liberty then our liberties must be pretty fucking flimsy

not American, so i just read up a bit on this and they fucking deserved it.

>I can't understand how Americans defend these two.

The only people who defend the Rosenbergs are their two sons and super lefty hippies who sympathize with the former soviets.

This
sheesh

Obviously because you said so.

>Rosa Luxemburg (also Rozalia Luxenburg; Polish: Róża Luksemburg; 5 March 1871[1] – 15 January 1919) was a Marxist theorist, philosopher, economist, anti-war activist, and revolutionary socialist of Polish-Jewish descent who became a naturalized German citizen. She was, successively, a member of the Social Democracy of the Kingdom of Poland and Lithuania (SDKPiL), the Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD), the Independent Social Democratic Party (USPD), and the Communist Party of Germany (KPD).

>In 1915, after the SPD supported German involvement in World War I, she and Karl Liebknecht co-founded the anti-war Spartacus League (Spartakusbund), which eventually became the KPD. During the November Revolution she co-founded the newspaper Die Rote Fahne ("The Red Flag"), the central organ of the Spartacist movement.

>She considered the Spartacist uprising of January 1919 a blunder,[2] but supported it as events unfolded. Friedrich Ebert's majority Social Democratic government crushed the revolt and the Spartakusbund by sending in the Freikorps (government-sponsored paramilitary groups consisting mostly of World War I veterans). Freikorps troops captured and executed Luxemburg and Liebknecht. Luxemburg's body was thrown in the Landwehr Canal in Berlin.

Judas is such a sad story and I would like to see a story written from his perspective.
He fucked up (albeit probably the biggest fuck up in history desu), but his fuck up was truly necessary for the salvation of mankind, and he felt incredibly remorseful and despondent over what he had done to Jesus. He kills himself, in my mind not because he is wrathful, but because he sees himself as beyond redemption, he thinks he has committed a deed that is beyond even the infinite forgiveness of The Lord, and he tries to begin paying for his mistake in the only way he can think of: by suicide.
I don't think I agree with Dante that Judas has a special place in hell alongside Brutus and Cassius, but it's an interesting thought, to imagine Judas trapped in the maw of the archfiend himself; is he happy? Does he see this as a redemption, as a way to pay for his transgression? Has he found purpose in his unending suffering? Camus asked us to imagine Sisyphus happy, but I instead imagine Judas happy in much the same way as old Sisyphus.
I'll never forget watching an animated film in Catholic school of the Last Supper and events leading up to the crucifixion, there's a scene where Judas is in the garden after the soldiers take Jesus away, and Judas is counting his coins, and it sort of hits him what he's really done: sell out his savior, his messiah, but more importantly, his FRIEND, for 30 lowly pieces of silver, and he takes the bag of coins and with tears in his eyes casts the bag on the ground and runs away from them. Such striking imagery, such an insightful commentary on the character and nature of man, such human tragedy.