I'm reading The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich right now and am enjoying it greatly. What are some more nice...

I just ordered this book, actually, though I hear it's widely criticized by scholars. Why is that?

Because the central thesis is that the Holocaust was a unique event caused largely by a small group of anti-Semites rising to power, and Germans being uniquely slavish and unable to ignore authority figures and just went along with it. Being both retarded and unsupported, it gets panned.

>, and Germans being uniquely slavish and unable to ignore authority figures
yeah this is the retarded part

it might not be pc, but its right

can you name a single disaster in european history that wasn't caused by the slavish nature of germans?

Chernobyl

Currently reading this, also why I firmly believe a president will never be impeached.

Because scholars disagree
Look yo the three schools of thought for holoxaust though

If you don't care so much about the holocaust is OP book still decent? Holocaust is like the most boring yet for some reason most talked about part of WWII, why?

>yet for some reason most talked about part of WWII
its not

Have you checked out netflix? Half of their WWII content is Holocaust related.

this is your argument?

One of them. They're also really common on the history channels on tv and the books take up half the shelf space in book stores' WWII sections.

Muslim Conquest of Ibera
British crimes against humanity in war with Ireland
Italian cooking

Bought it a year ago, started reading it but stopped after about a week. Don't know why. Might start reading it again thanks to this thread.

I'm also reading it right now. Taking lots of notes about the oratory & political stratagem of Hitler and the NSDAP. Also very excited to read about the diplomatic & military maneuvering of the Nazis later on in the book. Great fuckin book so far if this kind of shit intrigues you

>I popped a boner when I reached the part of human experimentation, especially the freezing experiments.

Weirdo

>Irish dying by the million
>Disaster
Nah.

Some of my favorites:
Roots of the Western Tradition
Empires of the Sea
Before the Deluge
Enemy at the Gates
The Story of Philosophy
A History of the World in Six Glasses
Glittering Images
Plutarchs Lives

>italian cooking
I can tolerate Veeky Forums being full of reddit commies but this is over the line

Trump could easily get impeached simply by not getting anything done. Republicans can get fed up with him and put in Mike Pence instead.

I will say that Shirer is a great writer and makes all the people and events exciting and interesting.

However, read Shirer with a grain of salt. He hated Hitler the whole time and does not write im partial at all. He cherry picks and sometimes flat out lies and reports obvious lies as truth. For example Hitler's reply to roosevelt speech he lies about Hitler 'omitting poland'. If you go listen on youtube you will Shirer is just wrong and probablly lied because it would have been so easy to get a transcript and check. Another example is the Reichstag fire. Shirer behaves just like a modern journalist thinking 'Russia hacked the election' without any proof. He just doesnt like Hitler and assumes he did it.

That said I enjoyed rise and fall alot. Its a good starter book if you aren't interested in learning who Hitler was or what his world view was. It just cherry picks to make Hitler out to be a comic book bad guy.

John Toland's biography is infinitely better and more fair. You'll get a fair understanding of Hitler the man. Shirer literally thinks Germans are huns and suggests in the afterword that they should be genocided which is actually top tier Veeky Forums banter but not appropriate in a self respecting historian.

I will be reading his Decline of hte Third republic when I find a copy though. He writes really well, just not fair. I agree that hte 1000 paiges flew by.

Its also interesting how little detail shirer has on the holocaust. Just hte einstatzgruppens and some lampshade and experimental mistreatment of prisoners.

No. Impeachement is not allowed to be used due to misadministration or poor performacne. "the president doesnt serve at the pleasure of the congress'. Its for treason or high crimes not unpopularity. Gas yourself reddit moron.

Amendment 25, section 4

>Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration taht no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representative thier written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within 48 hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within 21 days after the receipt of the latter written declaration, or if the Congress is not in session, within 21 days after the Congress is required to assemble, determines by 2/3 vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

Conquistador by Buddy Levy. It's written more like a novel, chronicling Cortes' landing in Mexico and his conquest of the Triple Alliance. It easy to read and it keeps you in suspense as to whether Cortes succeeds in conquering Mexico (protip, he does).

I'm highly interested in 19th century Western European history. It's fascinating seeing all these old-fashioned empires slowly encountering technology that it beyond what their culture is based on.

What's the best book focusing on this time? I'm particularly interested in the personalities of the major figures (sorry for showing my 'Great Man Theory' bias) and of the artistic movements of the time too.

Tearjerking sells well

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I have the perfect book for you: Birth of the Modern by Paul Johnson.

>What are some more nice, easy to read and interesting history books?- 38 posts and 2 image replies shown.
Caesar by Adrian Goldsworthy is great
If you're interested in Britain then Churchill's History of the English Speaking Peoples' volume 4(?) is good

You're mixing up impeachment (for crimes and treason) with removal due to inability ot do hsi duties (because of a physical or mental illness). Neither of these may be used for punishing a president's 'poor performance' (and who the hell would be the judge of that?). In short, you have the reading comprehension of a 12 year old and should never post again.

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This is a fine, accurate, first-hand, free and easy read:

gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=6F91A3720072559944AA2FEE1E43862E

Does anyone have a link to an epub of I can only find PDFs except for the epub on archive but that has headers and footers mixed in with the normal content.

somewhere along the lines one of my girlfriends disposed of my copy before I was able to read any of it.

well there is that., kek

Whats like the modern equivalent of Machiavelli's The Prince?

Something that discusses political pragmatism/power/realpolitik?

Why did she do that?

Dictator's Handbook?

Haven't read it but that sounds like something in that direction

Women cant grasp the concept of reading something without fully agreeing with the book, the subject matter and the characters
Only a nazi could possibly want to read a history of the third reich user don't you know Hitler was a bad guy??

It's why you will often hear women criticize a book by pointing out that they didn't personally like and agree with all the actions of any character
>there is no one here that i would get a cup of coffee with 1/5!

Oh shit, I read that book when I was like 12.

I wish I remembered it.

If a work with zero new scholarship is fine - like Evans trio - then Burleigh's " 'New' history " is much better choice. The tone of Evans books is just fugly, he loses no page trying to tell the reader that 'you should feel bad, Nazis were epithome of evil and you are to blame'.

On this subject, obviously the many biographies of Hitler. I would recommend starting with Toland's. In my opinion - although not written by academic historian - it's still the best and very easy read. After that Maser Werner's and Kershaw's two part biography.

And obviously one should read about the event that caused all the subsequent bloodpath of the 20th century, Russian Revolution (and coup).
Start with Chamberlin's 'Russian revolution', two parts and move onto Pipes' 'Russian revolution' and 'Russia under the Bolshevik regime'.

If you can read Italian, then read Renzo De Felice's massive Mussolini biography/history of Fascism. But that is definitely not easy read, even if you're native speaker.

Origin of the Second World War. If you like Shirer, you'll enjoy Taylor

What do you lads think about David Irving's books?
Is he crazy in the cocunut?

I'm not /pol/ I'm just wondering if he is maybe worth reading for some sort of "different perspective" or whatever
I don't even know how much he gets into the controversal stuff and how much he's just a Wheraboo, did he mabye write and enjoyable book that just coveniently forgets to mention the holoaust and whatnot?

I hope you broke up with her.

The very same Evans mentioned in the thread says Irving has systematically falsified archival sources, giving too high body count for Dresden among other things. When he released his work on V2, it was favourably received, but that was long before he wrote his revisionistic (read: apolegic) biography of Hitler ('Hitler's war').

Not crazy, but he lies just like hundreds of commie apologists about his hero.

Thanks user!

I don't think I like that Evans fellow but falsifying anything is a total no-go

Apparently Hitler's War is banned or no longer being printed anyways and his other books seem to have some issues with credibility too (according to wikipedia) so skipping over him seems like the smart choice here

Cover looks boring but it's a great read. There's a WWII one too.

these are books that I've read or I have yet to read that were recommended by Veeky Forums and so far, it's been good. Some, like Peter Wilson's The Thirty Years War, McPherson's Battle Cry of Freedom, and Clark's The Sleepwalkers are very informative but very dry in areas, so it is hard to finish quickly. Others like Gaddis' The Cold War, and Levy's Conquistador are very straightforward and are actually hard to put down and read fast.

I would definitely like to add more to this collection, preferably contemporary books written this past decade. I have an interest in The English Civil War, Cromwell, Mexican history after the conquest of the Aztecs to the French invasion, books on the American presidents during the Reconstruction to Teddy Roosevelt period, any other interesting topic that doesn't go before the year 1000.

>The Cold War: A New History
This book is awesome. And it's so easy to read. It's the first book on history that like captivated me. It was so good and interesting that I had no trouble at all staying focused. It was much harder for me to quit reading this book when I had to.

Has anyone read this book before?

>amazon.ca/Heinrich-Himmler-Peter-Longerich/dp/0199651744
>Heinrich Himmler Paperback by Peter Longerich
>1072 pages

Some people say it drags on about redundant things, but I am very curious to read a book about Himmler. I also plan on checking out the Irving book after the Lonerich book (If I do indeed end up picking it up). Does anyone have any recommendations?

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>Europe's Tragedy
Literally just finished reading this. Fantastic book.

I am beyond a doubt shocked Clark's Iron Kingdom made it, fantastic book but I'm surprised frogboot licking Veeky Forums put it up there.

Yeah, right? Conquistador was also similar in that it was an easy and fun read.

It took me forever to finish it. The first part on the way the HRE works was interesting but very dull. It picks up after all of the background info.

It's like 4chins in general, there are always gems hidden amongst the shit. Still, this is my list that I got recommended by Veeky Forums, so it might no be fully approved by other posters.

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Is there a good book on the history of Liberia?

I'm interested in this as welll
It really was a neat idea it's a shame it got into the condition it is in today

>Italian cooking
Pasta is god's gift to man you faggot

King Leopold's Ghost by Adam Hochschild and The Last Crusade: The Epic Voyages of Vasco da Gama by Nigel Cliff.

(((Hochschild)))

Jews (and Nigels) get really mad when you imply that sonderweg is bullshit.

Sleepwalkers can be dry I suppose but I think the situation itself makes it interesting no matter what. Diplomatic political wrangling is surprisingly engaging. I'm re-reading Pursuit of Glory and while there's a few somewhat boring areas (I really just cannot find anything interesting about agriculture) Blanning's a good writer in that he can certainly spin a phrase well. I do like that the back, rather than footnotes, has a large list of recommended reading for the various topics covered which also makes it a good springboard for someone looking to learn more about that era. Wish more history books did that.

nice

holy fuck i hate those gavin menzies books

so retarded, i always see them overflowing the bargain racks and bins at my local bookstores. can't believe that shit is so popular

Is this abook list made by Veeky Forums to mock us?

>can't into self deprecating humor

What are you, autistic? (rhetorical question)

>tfw can't find a decent non-pdf of Gulag Archipelago

REEEEE

Arabs, A History

how about you go to your local library and loan it, you fuck

I want to read it on my e-reader you rude girl

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who gives a fuck about liberia
jesus
you better be a black american or this is a waste of your time

Are there any other books like The Horse, the Wheel, and Language? PIE is a pretty fascinating topic

Fuck off, you dumb cunt.

>Wastes time learning about Liberia
>calls others dumb
hmm...

>Wastes time learning

Oxymoron.

You could have learned about a relevant country during the time wasted reading about liberia

probably because it had a swastika on it and all of my exes are varying levels of SJW.

>Europe's Tragedy
It's a weird one, its surprisingly in-depth but at times features sweeping generalisations without any evidence.

Any good biographies guys? I'm reading a nice Theodore Roosevelt one by Nathan Miller.

Three Empires on the Nile: a Victorian Jihad

Amazingly well written, fun and easy, and available on audiobook. About the Mahdist war and Egyptian colonization of the Nile.

Anyone?

I'm reading Marcus Aerelius biography by Frank Lynn and really enjoying it. It's also the first book on Roman history I've ever read and it establishes a lot of context on roman culture so it serves perfectly for any newcomer to the period.

you need to be more specific

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Ordinairy Men
The Ghost of King Leopold

All societies have people who blindly obey authority figures though. It doesn't sound contraversial at all

No, you're missing the point. It's not that every society has people who blindly obey authority. It's that Germans (and only Germans) ALL blindly obey authority.