As a military leader, was Francisco Franco any good?

As a military leader, was Francisco Franco any good?

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Meh, so so

He was at least a good politician or negotiator seeing as he kept his right-wing coalition together unlike his left-wing counterparts.

No. The nationalists were losing the war badly until Germany/Italy intervened and bailed them out.

he was supposedly very good in his youth
implying Franco was the only rebel general. silly mistake.
its hard to look back and not think that franco was the mastermind, but he really wasnt. i it was an organized plan by the most important generals in spain
nobody of the generals in the coup knew Franco would end up being the leader of spain, any of the others could have taken that spot.

Not really, it was Nazi and Italian aid for the nationalists, the cowardice of liberal nations like the UK and France, and Stalinist perfidy that destroyed the republic.

Not at all. He was promoted to general at a young age because the Spanish military promotion system had degenerated at the time and any officer willing to do some reckless movement in the colonial wars and come back alive was bond to climb the ladder. During the Spanish Civil War Franco made several blunders and was unnecessarily cautious and too focused on 'stunning' movements to the point of delaying the conflict for quite a long time.

Not joining WW2 on either side was a genius maneuver.

>implying the republic was not asking for its removal

>No. The nationalists were losing the war badly until Germany/Italy intervened and bailed them out.
This is false. In fact the Italians did jackshit and the Germans just some bombings. From where did you get that information

>it was Nazi and Italian aid for the nationalists
Kek. This mene again. The italian legion was garbage and the Germans just sent bombers to test their strategies. The replublicans were shit at fighting and had no actual leadership

The Italians used their air fleet to transport Franco's Muslim forces across the Gibraltar sound.

The African army wasn't muslim.

Yeah they were. They heavily came from Spainish Morocco and Franco declared them honorary Catholics.

tfw /pol/ finds out that Franco and the Falange won thanks to the mudslimes

>what airlift of the entire elite Army of Africa how is that relevant to the outcome of the war
>what air cover for merchant ships transporting an additional 3000 troops
Confirmed for knowing nothing about the Spanish Civil War. If Franco and that army were stuck in Morocco then the Republic wins the war handily.

He was not a genius but was good enough. And did some remarcable actions such as:

-He saved Melilla at the nick of time when se was just a commander.
-He led the Alhucemas Disembark.
-He directed Zaragoza Academy until the Republic closed it.

I never understood why it would matter to them. The fact was that (almost) fascism won in the end and was implemented. pol is so dumb to put race higher than ideology

>the cowardice of liberal nations like the UK and France, and Stalinist perfidy that destroyed the republic.

It's a LOT more complicated than that. The British viewed both the French and Spanish governments as communist sympathizers because their coalitions included avowed communists. Britain warned France that if they supported the Spanish leftists then Britain would support Franco. France thus stayed neutral, not seeing a point in intervening.

The Soviets helped the Spanish leftists until they realized it was pointless and a waste of military supplies.

Source: "The Spanish Civil War" by Dante Puzzo

Celebrate diversity, communist!

>The fact was that (almost) fascism won in the end and was implemented.

Leftists need to stop with this meme. Franco was a conservative catholic authoritarian who actually banned the fascists party when he got into power.

"Yeah, but anyone to the right of Lenin is LITERALLY HITLER!" - what leftists actually believe

I'm literally for fascism, what the fuck is wrong with you? Rightists with victim complexes like you are just as bad as lefty cucks.

At their peak, the Nationalists had 1 million soldiers.
Only 80 thousand were Muslims, and a lot of them joined in the later stages of the war

I think he was a decent military leader, as can be seen in his actions in the 1934 Asturias miners strike, but I don't think that's what set him apart. Other generals like Queipo de Llano were just as capable as he was in organizing attacks on the Republic. What made Franco special was more the fact that he knew how to control the other generals and make his army stand united without the internal insurrections that plagued the Republican side (see the May Days of 1937). I particularly subscribe to the fact that Franco was somehow involved in Sanjurjo's death as a way to further cement his power from contenders.

he was shit commander

He would have been nothing without German/ American support. Franco was not a terrible general, but he's nothing to write home about.

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>Franco as tactician and strategist was like he was at every other field: cautious, prudent, obsessed with keeping as much territory as posible, not in to mechanized or fast war. A man of a very traditional and conventional military formation who disdains the modern [mechanized] war.
>His most notorious idea was to realize about the vulnerability of the Northern front and focusing on it.