Is capitalism un-Christian?

Is capitalism un-Christian?

Jesus was a socialist

capitalism is jewish
everybody thinks they are the "chosen" ones, like the jews think of themselfs
therefore you are better if you have more than other, therefore it is acceptable to fuck over anyone that is not you

the death of society by jews

Of course, Communism is secular Christianity.

Not necessarily.

Capitalism as a system, possibly. It depends on whether or not liberalism and consumerism are inherent to capitalism or merely accompany them.
Capitalism has accommodated Christianity and vice versa, at the very least.

Who cares ?

Uh no, Jesus believed in free will offerings and people helping the poor. You didn't see Jesus stealing from the rich and giving to the poor, he wanted the rich to do that of their own volition.

Yes, it's Jewish.

Jesus was pretty clearly anti-merchant though.

Knocked over some tables or something. Not to mention "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." (Matthew 19:24)

Jesus preached to the poor and the Bible has a clear pro-poor narrative. To twist it into some proto-capitalist story means you've successfully been cucked by the 1% into not only accepting your lower position as natural, but their higher position as virtuous.

Neither are true.

Jesus rampaged through the temple because it was supposed to be a house of worship, not a marketplace. He considered the blending of the two to be an insult to God and believers alike

It's not. However how you spend said money (or not spend it) can be very unchristian.

Catholicism is un-Christian

Christianity is un-Christian.

God is un-Christian.

Well, you know, the entire underlying philosophical basis of capitalism (classical liberalism) is materialist. Which christianity is opposed to. So, yeah, capitalism is pretty unchristian.

Agreed.

>"Yeah guys, John Smith is way more educated on the Bible than that Pope guy or whoever"
>"Lol Nice try Catholic fag, but purgatory isn't mentioned anywhere in the Bible. What? The rapture isn't mentioned in the Bible either? Well that's just common sense"
>" I mean yeah Luther removed seven books from scripture and added the word 'alone' to Romans 3:28, but it was totally justified!"
>"Wait, you don't edit the Bible whenever you want to fit your views? LOL Catholic bootlicker !"
>"Maybe if I call the Pope a cuck over and over again that will win this argument!"

You clearly are taking the church passage out of context like the other user said. Also, Jesus did think that rich people should give away their earthly possessions because rich people tend to focus too much on their earthly possessions.

However, Jesus never forced the rich to give away their belongings, that would defeat the whole purpose if their stuff was taken by force. Now you might claim that Jesus didn't force anyone because he was never in a position of power, but don't forget that in the old testament when there was a nation made with God's (remember the bible says Jesus is God) rules that it was capitalistic. The closest to socialism was a 10% tithe on everyone (flat tax) which was given to the church, and partially used to help the poor. In fact, this nation was arguably more capitalistic than any society nowadays.

No, but ultra-rich corporatist CEOs and rampant wealth-disparity are

Purgatory isn't mentioned to my knowledge...and the rapture *is* mentioned in revelations if you take certain parts more literally.

The first Christians were communist it says it in black and white

>Is capitalism un-Christian?
Yes.

Using your fellow man for profit?

Would could be more Satanic?

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You can't have capitalism without wealth disparity you dumb fuck

You're retarded. Did Jesus flip the tables of every market place he came across?

Did Jesus murder everyone who sinned?

Did Jesus murder anyone? What are you even trying to say you assbaby?

What Pope Francis is referring to is most likely the natural tendency of the capitalism to rapidly devolve into corrupt state mercantilism whereby the initial success stories of a capitalistic market use their new found wealth to manipulate governments and maintain an artificial stranglehold on power,often to the detriment of a large majority. The 2008 banking crisis comes to mind, as well as many other heavily regulated nations like France.

So Pope Francis was actually a libertarian all along, he was just pretending to be your stereotypical Marxist liberation theology Latin American priest. Really made me think.

God kills Ananias and Sapphira for not giving all their money to the communist collective and Jesus is God.

Defines of your definition of Christianity and capitalism.

According to some, Capitalism is a protestant invention which as a non-Christian seems pretty plausible to me.

He killed them for lying to Him, and from trying to cheat the system. They weren't forced to participate in the commune.

Not necessarily. Consumerism can be, especially when it serves things instead of people.

"Rerum Novarum" is a papal encyclical that was written by Leo XIII in the 1890s. It gives you the basic idea of Catholicism's relationship to capitalism.

Keep in mind Pope Francis is not an economist and when it criticisms "capitalism" he's usually talking about the negative aspects of Western consumerism which, to be complerely fair, does leave out a lot of people. Also keep in mind that socialist materialism is also condemned.

Also it should be mentioned that this consumerism is tied up in a culture of waste that the past few popes have often talked about where people (the poor, mentally ill, elderly, unborn, vulnerable, people in unstable countries, etc.) are ignored or tossed away when they're inconvenient.

Define capitalism
Define Christian

Yes,the entire impetus of capitalism is to feed into greed.

However that is not to say the alternatives are better, (Communism started as a criticism of Christian communal ism and how it puts too much (any) power into a higher power rather than in the hands of the people.)

>Communism started as a criticism of Christian communal ism and how it puts too much (any) power into a higher power rather than in the hands of the people.)

Citation needed

>Yes,the entire impetus of capitalism is to feed into greed.

But that's wrong

Ananias and Sapphira were killed for blaspheming, greed, pride, and generally exemplifying everything terrible.

They werent forced to join in the community but they did and they tried to game the system while simultaneously lying to God.

perhaps i phrased it wrong, Marx was writing in response to French Socialism, which was an expansion of Utopianism, which was based upon Christian Communal societies.

what part of thou shalt not steal do you not understand?

Lovecraft wasen't the biggest fan of capitalism tho, many conservatives back then were critical of it before the right was hijacked by liberals

Absolutely

>what part of render unto caesar do you not understand

:^)

Does Hinduism and Buddhism fall within this definition of true religion?

and capitalism comodifies everything it can

I read a book once I forget what it's called but it took saying of Jesus that let what belongs to Caeser to Caesar and to God to God the centerstage. Basically since money and the economy do not belong to Jesus or God, then you can do what you want with them, therefore capitalism.

Jesus was apolitical, so long as you did what God says and help the less fortunate whenever you can Jesus probably doesn't give a damn.