"Culture isn't dead."

This, chinks Will rule the World and im glad of it. Even if it means massive genocide everywhere there is a future for mankind if they rule

Modern western culture (or lack of) is absolutely subhuman and can only end on slaneeshy nuclear Holocaust

But remember that we only had 17 years in the 21 century. The 18th century had 100 years to get its intellectuals. Have hope for the future, user.

Nah, the inevitable end of all Chinese dynasties are just like what you described, a excessively decadent gentry and a bunch of angry lower class people, who will inevitably get into civil war and kill each other.

Why should we care about the masses who don't value culture?

In fact what is even the point of culture? We don't need it.

Keep in mind, only the top 0.1% of the population ends up in places like Canada.

The vast, vast majority of them are worse.

Intellectuals I read about in school
>Johann Wolfgang Goethe
>David Hume
>Adam Smith
>Francis Bacon
>Edmund Burke
>Edward Gibbon
>Thomas Paine
>Thomas Hobbes
>Immanuel Kant
>Gottfried Leibniz
>Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
>Isaac Newton
>Jean-Jacques Rousseau
>Voltaire (François-Marie Arouet)

People I call intellectuals because I'm too much of a brainlet to actually read and digest contemporary intellectuals and why should I when I can just sit in front of the computer and watch televi... I mean Youtube
>Katie Hopkins
>Richard Spencer
>Stefan Molyneux
>Owen Jones
>John Oliver
>Bill Mahler
>Alex Jones
>Christopher and Peter Hitchens
>Neil Degrasse Tyson
>Richard Dawkins
>Gavin Mcinnes
>Thunderfoot
>Sargon of Akkad

This is what I always say. The Chinese who left China are fine. The ones still in it need to be gassed

Your definition of intellectual appears to be 'dead white male'
Maybe if you broadened your mind a little you'd realise the picture isn't as blea as you think.

Ta-Nehisi Coates is the artistic, intellectual and philosophical equal of any of the thinkers you name.
Read Between the World and Me and get back to us

Enlighten philosophers built upon classical philosophy and arrived at more whole, scientifically backed ideals. That was the peak of West European culture and we have devolved since then.

what about Ayn Rand?

plz kys

>West European culture
Found your problem. That is not the last word in human experience. The classical and enlightenment thinkers are not necessarily better just because they are portrayed in oil paintings.
Decolonize your mind.

We are talking about Europe/the west you ijit.

> The classical and enlightenment thinkers are not necessarily better just because they are portrayed in oil paintings.
No, I agree, they are objectively better because their developments were unprecedented and have not been improved upon for 500 years.

This.

Are we? Why should we limit ourselves to that? It's like saying that as there are no great musicians in contemporary Norwich, Beyonce doesn't real.

If you focus only on white europeans then of course you will come to the conclusion that culture is in decline, but if you consider Black folks you'll see it is thriving.

It seems what you mean by decline is 'white people are not the focus of the conversation anymore'

>not been improved upon for 500 years.
See:

No dude, thats totally off the point.

Firstly, we identify as Western Europeans (WEs). The OP was about WE culture, absolutely nowhere do blacks come into this conversation; it's absolutely irrelevant to bring them up.

Secondly, The ideals for society and man that were arrived at 500 years ago have not been improved. Are you going to argue that Democracy, Liberty, Secularism are bad? Has anything better come since then?

The teachings of those old philosophers have since then been warped into something slightly difference. Now people don't care about those ideals for virtuous character traits.

People have given up religion for secularism (good) but then by some covert development have also given up practising those virtuous character traits as taught by religion and the Enlightenment philosophers.

I think the blame is shared between capitalism, the government and the people.

>muh wrong generation
You really are fucking retarded if that list of "intellectuals in the 21st century" are actual intellectuals of the 21st century. They aren't intellectuals; they are just people with a following.
You need to understand that to find actual intellectuals in this day and age, you have to dig a little deeper than Youtube's Trending tab. Due to the popularisation and idolisation of science and the implementation of politics into literally fucking everything you see and hear it is very hard to find people that are actually meaningful to this world.
We really won't know the actual intellectuals of the current age unless we wait another century. I mean, the main reason we know so (relatively) many intellectuals of the 18th century is because we have the advantage of hindsight. We can now safely say that these people were of very valuable note to the world. I mean, do you really think half of the people in the world back in the 18th century either knew or even cared about Adam Smith or Isaac Newton?

>Firstly, we identify as Western Europeans (WEs). The OP was about WE culture, absolutely nowhere do blacks come into this conversation; it's absolutely irrelevant to bring them up.

How do you fit this many implications into one post?

>The ideals for society and man that were arrived at 500 years ago have not been improved
So white supremacy? Homophobia? Subjugation of women? All practiced by your 'enlightened' thinkers

>virtuous character traits as taught by religion
What does this even mean?

You don't even want to admit to yourself how much you are replicating old colonialist mindsets and patterns. Decolonize your mind.

This

Richard Dawkins and Neil Degrasse Tyson are actually intellectuals since they are both academics who have published PHDs.

They have also delved into areas outside of their specialised area; Neil Degreasse Tyson gave did a talk with historians on the Islamic Golden Age, in which he discussed the reasons for why it ended. He stated that it was the rise of fundamentalist approaches to science in Islam lead to its end since science was being viewed as corrosive to what was written in the Quran.

>Decolonize your mind.

cringe

Western european accomplishments within science, art and especially cultural contributions to the modern world are unparalleled by any other region in the world.

The fact that the OP is called "Culture isn't dead" and the proceeds to list WE philosophers is pretty conclusive that he means WE Culture, idiot.

>White supremacy
The enlightenment thinkers were abolitionists, pro immigration and advocated mutual respect to its common man from foreign nations.

>Homophobia
Im not so sure. I do know they preached for progress and tolerance. I assume Homosexuals wouldn't be prejudged and if they were, the Enlightenment thinkers certainly set the pavings stone to the acceptance of gay's in this day and age.

>Subjugation of women.
Women were given voting writes around the Enlightenment period.

>>virtuous character traits as taught by religion
>What does this even mean?

Is English not your first language?

You've gotten every single point wrong. Do you know anything about the Modern History?

We're seventeen years in. Not only have we not had a comparable amount of time, but we haven't had time to actually recognize the intellectual figures that have actually emerged.

Nothing wrong with that though. I'm glad my country is being filled with the eastern intelligencia because god knows our local stock would damn us to permanent obscurity

In five generations we'll be a master race of brown haired slant eyed pale skinned intellectuals with all the water recourses, and everyone else can go to hell

So, yeah you're supporting white supremacy.
If you can't even aacknowledge how racist people like Kant were, and how this informed their thought, and how these ideas were used to justify racism then you have no business declaring who and who isn't an important intellectual.
Do you know anything about modern hhistory?

You forgot one.

Maybe you don't know the intellectuals of the current age, but that's just because you're a pleb and probably haven't graduated highschool

Roberto Calasso, Nicholas Taleb, Francis Fukuyama, Henry Kissinger, Roberto Mangabeira Unger, Robert Langlands, Peter Frankopan and I could go on but I won't waste my breath on fools who can't even appreciate the richness of modernity are all brilliant philosophers and thinkers who will be cemented in history. But of course kids just want to talk about Zizek and YouTube celebrities. They don't even watch good YouTube channels (the Caspian Report and Institut Henri Poincare both come to mind), just id/pol/ garbage and cultural warriors.

Define "intellectual"

>Montesquieu
>Diderot
Fix'd

Kant is the only one of those philosophers who has ever been called racist, and guess what? The statement was severely berated.

Kant produced a work called 'Taxonomy of the Races' which has no colonial connection whatsoever. It's just a classification of human races with slight tones of racism which aren't even incorrect. Objectively black Africans have achieved much less; it's simply empirical.

The only problem is the works are outdated and politically-incorrect

White supremacy doesn't come into it. Stop spamming that word.

Have you actually read those enlightenment intellectual's biographies? Many of them were fucking lunatics and many others led extremely sheltered lives. We've regressed for sure but you're looking a history through very rosy glasses

Bring some evidence to the table.

Nigga it's been 16 years. Give it time, fuck.